posted February 28, 2016 06:24 PM            

In the last few years I’ve had a couple of friends pass from overdoses and I learned afterwards that they both had this moon sign. I thought that was an interesting coincidence, so I did some research and noticed that although this placement creates a lot of brilliant people (Mozart, Picasso and Einstein to name a few), there are a number of tragic figures and addicts (everything from sex/drug/alcohol addiction to suicide) who have it.

Charlie Sheen
Pamela Courson
Stephen King (was once on drugs/alcohol but is obviously now sober)
Scott Disick
Hunter S. Thompson
Carol Landis
Amy Winehouse
Tiger Woods

Freddie Mercury also had this placement and whilst not an addict he did, like many others on the list, die young

posted February 28, 2016 06:54 PM            

Given how ubiquitous drugs are, legal and otherwise, and the problems associated with them (and the countless treatment centers), I'd be surprised if this could be put at the feet of a couple of moon signs.

But even if it were true (generally speaking), it doesn't mean it's true of you or someone else you know.

Personally, as a Sag moon myself, I just recalled the liquor store putting up a sign congratulating the graduating class and laughed again over that (while wondering how many graduates died because of alcohol that was purchased from that store congratulating them).

posted February 28, 2016 07:26 PM            

I really don't have a filter. Mostly because I don't care about many things.. if you're going to do the truth, then why can't you hear it too? I'm not going to lie to you. Do you want me to lie to you? To preserve your feelings? Why don't u just change whatever it is that hurts you? Seriously

Also I noticed I tend to bump into things HEHE
I don't really look before I walk sometimes

And people who get to know me ask me if I'm high or on something because I am just so WONDERFUL and how possibly could someone feel such a way without a booster?

posted February 28, 2016 07:31 PM            

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Back to the subject!
I do have suicidal tendencies at times.
But I don't think that's the natural Sagittarius moon. I think that's my Moon Squ Saturn BECAUSE it just causes pessimistic attitudes and an overall lack of faith

posted February 28, 2016 08:50 PM            

So all in all, no. It's not dangerous. I don't do anything dangerous and don't intend to. The people you mentioned likely had other indicators in their chart that made them predisposed to recklessness and rebellious (not the good, acceptable kind but the self-destructive kind) behavior. One aspect can't make your entire personality, it's usually a number of things.

posted February 28, 2016 09:38 PM            

An astro-twin (born same day, same hospital, just a few hours apart) I knew in school clashed with me. I think most astrologers would be surprised to know we had the same sign as we were so different. (About the only similarity is that we both were assertive and spoke our mind for all to hear in a way that was unusual for girls.)

My Sag moon (and stellium) is in my 5H. Hers in 12H. Whereas I expressed many fun loving and expressive components of myself, she repressed it (she was assertive but still much more guarded than me), and she misread me as well. I was (both real and imagined) essentially everything she feared about herself. (I don't know what she was like in private, however.)

I find it difficult to imagine her doing any drug, legal or otherwise. I COULD see her as suicidal given reasons I don't feel like explaining. But that would be because her moon was in the 12H, not because it was Sag (the Sag would affect it, but not necessarily in the way you might think).

posted February 28, 2016 09:47 PM            

I know addiction is something that is often attributed to Neptune, Pluto and maybe Venus.. But, I have begun to believe that the Moon also plays a big role in it in the right circumstances.. I had been meaning to open a thread about this(the moons possible occasional connection with addiction), but I still haven't finished writing it all down yet.

Personally, I get addicted to things very easily.. Always have. Or, at least that was the case in the past. It may be something I've gotten a bit better about.

I believe that a Sagittarius Moon can definitely be a bit more open to experimentation, but, I feel like it would be other aspects that would bring them to have addictions.

posted February 29, 2016 02:04 AM            

Signs are just modes of expression. The mode of expression of Moon/one's inner subjective self in Sag/fiery mutable, is an alternating, but generally open and participating interface with life. Friendly, the world is your playground.

gemstone, you do have some good points, however, about a potential for over-indulgence. But no single placement 'creates' a brilliant person. I doubt it has anything to do with what house the Moon is in.

Questions:
- What are the aspects with the Moon in these different charts?
- What are the other signatures related to the problems you've described?

posted February 29, 2016 02:52 AM            

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Originally posted by candycrush:
I have a saggy moon and am a sun and mercury pisces. I'm not self destructive, promiscuous, reckless, or in any way interested in drugs or self-harm. I have a million setbacks in life a day, but the Sag moon keeps me strong, I believe. I tend to be rather opinionated, but I keep it to myself and it gives me a tendency to speak my mind without thinking, but only at home where everyone already knows my intentions aren't bad or online (sometimes, but rarely)--but sagg moons do tend to talk without thinking. I can agree with us being a bit humorous--I LOVE to laugh.

So all in all, no. It's not dangerous. I don't do anything dangerous and don't intend to. The people you mentioned likely had other indicators in their chart that made them predisposed to recklessness and rebellious (not the good, acceptable kind but the self-destructive kind) behavior. One aspect can't make your entire personality, it's usually a number of things.

I agree sagg moons do tend to be a bit crazy it seems, but it is a fire sign. The extent to WHICH someone is crazy (meaning good crazy or bad) would have to be decided on with more in the natal chart than just moon signs.

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posted February 29, 2016 05:44 PM            

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Originally posted by gemstone:
Dangerous to themselves

Thanks for the interesting replies - I agree that a single aspect/placement alone isn't the only thing to influence an entire chart. I do think though that maybe Sag moon could incline a person to be a little more of a party animal, and as we know the party scene has easy access to addictive substances, so maybe that's a factor. Plus the people on that list I wrote are famous, and I guess celebrities also have easy access to those things too, as well as being more prone to unstable moods.

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posted February 29, 2016 05:47 PM            

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I had no access to emotional language—not the degree I needed to establish a mind-body connection. There was a deadness inside of me. It was a deadness that was cultivated, because I had started to work at 14—a time when I was very petite in size, underdeveloped because I hadn’t even gotten my period then, and very much an introvert. The workplace was no place for a girl like me, much less a version with emotions. I wanted to be taken seriously, so I overcompensated. If there had been a contest of who could be the most robotic, I made sure I was primed to win. But you can’t live on a dry well.

Ten years later, I am routinely reduced to a puddle of tears on the stage of the Meisner studio I trained at after I graduated from the acting program at the Film Academy, because the more you feel, the more you want to feel. Raw, real emotions can be so addictive, and Shanley’s work is like crack. Riveting.

I never had an emotional vocabulary until acting lessons. Then I had it all. What once was so obscure was brought to light with such crystal clear focus, attention, and study. It was a ferocious and aggressive education. I was engulfed, I was exhausted, but I was at last alive. Conservatory then became something else—a deeply psychological experience, with a strange dichotomy—it was therapy and addiction all in one.

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More on this, even if as a spectator rather than actor, for about a minute or so from here (before it goes into specific episodes):
http://youtu.be/DnWkPh7uZiw?t=55s

Even when that's not a factor, fame has a way of putting a lot of pressure on someone, and if mixing with people making poor decisions over a bad past, then they can get sucked along easily enough.

posted February 29, 2016 05:54 PM            

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Originally posted by candycrush:
I'm a sag moon and Leo rising with Venus in aries, and I'm not a party animal. I never go to parties. It's not my thing, don't personally like that kinda scene, but that's just me. I have however noticed that multiple 12th house placements (especially sun, mercury and moon or having three+ personal planets in the 12th) can make people want to experiment.

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I'm a Sag moon, Leo rising, and I DID experiment, sometimes rather recklessly, depending on my luck, though I did tend to think things through.

posted February 29, 2016 06:04 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I'm a Sag moon, Leo rising, and I DID experiment, sometimes rather recklessly, depending on my luck, though I did tend to think things through.

My astro-twin had a packed 12H (including moon and Mars), and as far as I could tell she was one of the most straitlaced people I ever met (though that doesn't mean she wasn't very different in private).

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posted March 01, 2016 11:00 AM            

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Originally posted by candycrush:
I have however noticed that multiple 12th house placements (especially sun, mercury and moon or having three+ personal planets in the 12th) can make people want to experiment.

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I have sun and mercury in the 12th and I like experimenting in private or with friends I trust. I daydream so much and have to act it out in reality, but sometimes it's better when I dream about it.

posted March 01, 2016 11:57 AM            

For example, Mars/Pluto, alone, doesn't make for a violent individual. Maybe just temperamental.
However if you had nessus in the mix, with a general lack of water and with a fire dominance mixed with a couple of hard aspects you can get a hot-headed individual prone to physical violence and abusive tendencies.