posted March 09, 2016 06:25 PM            

Or not even bad--these people I meet the most just have a past with issues

I have known a Libra friend for two weeks and we get along well.
I just found out her Astrology. When she told me she is mega Bipolar and she takes five medications for it, I just HAD to discover the Astrology of it. I have known Libras to be idealistic(like Pisces),indecisive about little things(however Cardinal &stake charge),accommodating, and unbalanced.

She is a Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus Libra, Mars Virgo

Are the Libra dominated people you know unbalanced?
Or are they known to suffer from a crazy past?

posted March 09, 2016 08:01 PM            

The ones I know tend to overreach in relationships or get into binds of contradictory efforts of trying to protect their vulnerabilities while relating. The men especially seem to get hit in the low back/spine with ongoing relational/financial worries more than any group I've seen.

As to your friend's chart Moon opposite Jupiter is not necessarily 'bad' but is a challenge for those who have not learned balance earlier in life. Moon [9S30] is tighter in contra-parallel Jupiter [9N11]. She also has an interesting aspect in the declinations of Sun [0S28] contra-parallel Pluto [0N41] right near the celestial equator. That could be seen as a pivotal aspect in dealing with power and energy surges. In addition, Mars 21 Virgo is closely square Uranus near 23 Sagittarius. That last aspect increases what I indicated about 'energy surges'.

Sun in Libra it is in 'fall', its second-least natural place for expression of personal vital energies and ego. Ego slips too easily into concern over appearances, personal image, and what others think of them.

Asc in Libra is in a 'accidental detriment', in spite of the fact that so many Libra risers are very likeable people. Similar reasons as with Sun, but more pronounced in some ways since the mode of asserting the self is not direct and gets filtered generally through people-pleasing, or more superficial sensibilities of asthetics.

Moon in Libra is the most natural placement in Libra of the main three chart factors. However, this is where imbalances from not taking care of oneself can really hit the blood sugar, kidneys, hips, low back, etc.

Air is the least substantive element and all three air signs do have balance as themes within their more ideational social interface. This balancing act too often keeps them aswirl in abstract considerations. One of the most important things I do for my Libran clients is give them tools for personal balancing, and check-ins for how they use their time/energy.

posted March 09, 2016 08:59 PM            

I did know of one Libra who used to have a problem with substance addiction, but he had kicked that habit by the time I knew him. He still did not look like a Libra at all (he looked more like Hagrid, only more scary) but he says when he was young he was a lot more stereotypically Libra until his family, fearing it was homosexuality, brutally beat it out of him (he couldn't even swallow for awhile because his dad strangled him unconscious, and still had minor trouble with that when I knew him over a decade after the injury).

He also had a problem with being psychic in such a psychic wasteland, probably from being electrocuted as a child (which included leaving his body) and agitated by his Pisces moon, and when he ended up on the streets he became something of a half-crazy vigilante with substance abuse problems for awhile until a concussion caused him to start leaving his body and he found a more spiritual path. He still had his psychic scars, and he led a mostly hermetic existence when I met him, but he was "balanced" if very odd by the time I met him. But he assures me he was very messed up until his early 20s (and he still had to constantly work at himself).

I did know of one Libra sun who was very unpleasant and I'd say his scales were out of whack, but I'm not sure he counts as he wasn't too bad (though he was obnoxious to the rest of us, including me, but he could control it when he had to--but wouldn't if he didn't have to, and he didn't want to control it). We were both staying in a flop house which I think was hard for him. I wasn't happy about it myself, but I knew it was temporary for me (he ended up getting into the confidence of the landlord and stealing the money to presumably return to Canada where he was from).

I did clash with one Libra (an astro-twin at that), but I don't think she was unbalanced, just outspoken as I was. As far as I could tell she didn't clash with anyone else, that is it wasn't that she was unbalanced, she just didn't like me because I offended her sensibilities, and her Sag stellium made her vocal about it. The class found our sniping at each other (that sometimes doubled as teen contests of wit) very entertaining.

posted March 09, 2016 11:11 PM            

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Lots of people will tell you that Libra is all love ai»d beauty and sweetness and light. That's fine, as far as it goes, but it stops a little short of accuracy. It also stops short of Eugene O'Neill. Just because the sign is symbolized by the golden scales of justice, don't ever think that LibraAS are always perfectly balanced. It seems to be a logical deduction. After all, the purpose of scales is to balano®. However, did you ever watch the balancing process on a pair of old-fashioned pharmaceutical scales? The ultimate goal is to get both sides even, but what happens? First o(ie side is low, then the other. Up and down, and they dip until there's perfect balance. Drop into a friendly neighborhood. pharmacy and watch them in action. (Just tell the druggist you're trying to find out what makes Aunt Martha tick.)

Never again will you have a mental picture of a Libran as a calm, perfectly balanced, sweet, gracious and charming individual You'll have a mental picture of a person who has that kind of disposition half the time. The other half of the time, Libra can be annoying, quarrelsome, stubborn, restless, depressed and confused. Libra is first up, then down. He swings one way, then another. Suddenly, like the scaels-perfect balance! It's heavenly. But there is always that period of weighing and dipping before the moment of heavenly balance is achieved.

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The Libra character is made up of just about equal parts of kindness, gentleness, fairness, plain cussed argumenta-tiveness, stubborn refusal to capitulate, philosophical logic and indecision. It's best to examine these ingredients in detail. The argumentativeness, for instance. A Libran will argue with you about what time it is if he thinks your watch is two seconds off. Don't try to get away with a generalization like: "Teenagers are ruining the country." You'll get a logical, careful dissertation about the Peace Corps and how many wonderful youngsters there are in the world, even if his own children are defiant drop-outs. Make a remark like, "The law is so corrupt today that all judges and lawyers are dishonest," and he'll go on for hours about the divine protection of justice in this country, the virtues of the jury system and the problems of law-makers, going back to Roman law and continuing through the Code Napoleon. Never say casually, "It's foolish to live in the city when you can live in the country. There's no compari­son." That last phrase especially is a huge mistake. Just mention the word comparison, and the average Libran is off and running. He can compare all night long, with refreshments at intervals. He'll extol the beauties and advantages of the cities compared to rural areas: describe j the bright lights, honking taxi horns, theaters, museums and | parks in glowing terms-even if he himself lives in suburbia | and you couldn't blast him out with dynamite. It wouldn't | make a bit of difference if you took the opposite view in | any of these cases. The Libran would then expound on the (rising teenage crime rate, the corruption of the courts and [the joys of country living. He doesn't really care which side I he takes in a good argument, as long as it's the other side. Sometimes, if he gets bored, he can switch sides in the middle. Tell him you like a movie and he'll tell you what's wrong with it. Criticize it and hell praise it. Rave about a new book and he'll list its shortcomings. If you found it dull, he'll point out its virtues. Throughout all this constant, logical deduction, the Libran will try to remain fair. Libra dreads the appearance of prejudice, unjust accusation and blind faith equally. What he seeks is the real truth, the exact balance that gives the correct answer, after weighing all possibilities.

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Very few Librans are markedly eccentric or show-offs. Most of them are as wholesome and as well-balanced as a neat field of wheat, swaying back and forth gracefully in the wind. They're normally scrupulously honest in business deals, and there's very little carelessness about them. Libra would rather take his time and get it right than make a false start and have to repeat the process. They hate exag­geration, and they're repelled by embarrassing displays of anger and passion, though they themselves can be guilty of both extremes if they're pressed beyond their endurance.

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To truly understand Libra, you must understand the riddle of the scales; one side heaped high with October's vivid, golden leaves, suggesting brisk, autumn weather- the other side holding sky blue bunches of shy violets, drenched in the fresh scent of April rain. When the scales dip, bright optimism turns into silent panic, weighed down with lonely depression. When they balance, they produce a perfect harmony between his rich, crackling intellect and his affectionate, sympathetic heart. The seasons hold Libra's secret. Winter is too cold for him. Summer is too hot. He must blend them both into a perfect fall and spring

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posted March 10, 2016 03:30 AM              

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Desiring Shadows, the Libra types I know personally are not unbalanced to the degree you are describing. However, balance is definitely a theme for all Libra types.

The ones I know tend to overreach in relationships or get into binds of contradictory efforts of trying to protect their vulnerabilities while relating. The men especially seem to get hit in the low back/spine with ongoing relational/financial worries more than any group I've seen.

[b]As to your friend's chart Moon opposite Jupiter is not necessarily 'bad' but is a challenge for those who have not learned balance earlier in life. Moon [9S30] is tighter in contra-parallel Jupiter [9N11]. She also has an interesting aspect in the declinations of Sun [0S28] contra-parallel Pluto [0N41] right near the celestial equator. That could be seen as a pivotal aspect in dealing with power and energy surges. In addition, Mars 21 Virgo is closely square Uranus near 23 Sagittarius. That last aspect increases what I indicated about 'energy surges'.

Sun in Libra it is in 'fall', its second-least natural place for expression of personal vital energies and ego. Ego slips too easily into concern over appearances, personal image, and what others think of them.

Asc in Libra is in a 'accidental detriment', in spite of the fact that so many Libra risers are very likeable people. Similar reasons as with Sun, but more pronounced in some ways since the mode of asserting the self is not direct and gets filtered generally through people-pleasing, or more superficial sensibilities of asthetics.

Moon in Libra is the most natural placement in Libra of the main three chart factors. However, this is where imbalances from not taking care of oneself can really hit the blood sugar, kidneys, hips, low back, etc.

Air is the least substantive element and all three air signs do have balance as themes within their more ideational social interface. This balancing act too often keeps them aswirl in abstract considerations. One of the most important things I do for my Libran clients is give them tools for personal balancing, and check-ins for how they use their time/energy.

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posted March 10, 2016 06:21 AM            

Most air signs I have met dislike extremes; emotions/passion. As they always want to remain objective.

What often happens however,is that most err to the extreme of logic; getting lost in abstract thinking that makes everyday contact with reality a "chore".

I recently separated with a Libra Sun/Moon in Scorpio. But we are still very good friends and have a "physical arrangement" (don't ask,it's complex )

But in any case, what I knew from him is that he could go through extremes; one minutes calm and centered(Libra) and on other days emotional and angry(Scorpio).

I think he aspired to be the "balanced" person that is the ideal; tried to treat everyone fairly and have everyone have a good opinion of him etc.

But I think that his Scorpio Moon and Sagittarius Mars, just made him more emotional than he would like.

And then his Asc in Virgo would pick apart every tiny detail to ensure that you understood why he got so emotional/ angry

posted March 10, 2016 11:25 AM            

The same may be true for too much like such as many Libra planets and especially the ones in the Fall and detriment, such as Mars and the Sun.

In small doses, it is very harmonious, such as the ASC and Venus.

In too large doses, the person may feel that the self is too amorphous.

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posted March 10, 2016 11:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Sun in Libra it is in 'fall', its second-least natural place for expression of personal vital energies and ego.

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DS,
Like I said in the other thread - this really should not be overlooked. Seems like a simple enough point, but it's profound if you stop and think about it. Kannon phrased it perfectly.

posted March 10, 2016 02:42 PM              

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I agree with Kannon.

Most air signs I have met dislike extremes; emotions/passion. As they always want to remain objective.

What often happens however,is that most err to the extreme of logic; getting lost in abstract thinking that makes everyday contact with reality a "chore".

I recently separated with a Libra Sun/Moon in Scorpio. But we are still very good friends and have a "physical arrangement" (don't ask,it's complex )

But in any case, what I knew from him is that he could go through extremes; one minutes calm and centered(Libra) and on other days emotional and angry(Scorpio).

I think he aspired to be the "balanced" person that is the ideal; tried to treat everyone fairly and have everyone have a good opinion of him etc.

But I think that his Scorpio Moon and Sagittarius Mars, just made him more emotional than he would like.

And then his Asc in Virgo would pick apart every tiny detail to ensure that you understood why he got so emotional/ angry

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kannon is almost always right lol.

Its not that we dislike strong emotion, just the display of them at inappropriate times and places, or the general inability or refusal to maintain control of yourself when necessary.

posted March 11, 2016 10:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Marandana:
I don't really get libras, you know? I broke up with one libra man almost a month ago and so far I still don't know the truth. Before him I never delt with libra people, so I only knew what I read in the astrology books and all of them books say they are balanced, harmonius and polite. To my surprise, this man was completely the opposite, he was SO unbalanced that I almost stop believing in astrology... jk but I was really surprised, he was hot & cold, nice & rude, etc. Really indecisive too, loved to argue, aggresive manners and was really into sex almost like a scorpio. Now I think I was expecting the libra traits by the book, I know that's not okay... but oh well, it took me by surprise! So yes, I agree with you they're unbalanced too.

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posted March 11, 2016 11:10 AM            

Usually, one's basic personality is geared towards putting oneself in the world, and finding one's place in the world. Life force has a direction, and it's outward. It's an action, in a sense - which elicits reactions from the world as a by-product. Now, for a Libra - this action is preceded by a whole lot of hemming and hawing in order to not disturb the cosmic equilibrium (as perceived), or in an attempt to restore it (again, as perceived) - all the time while not destroying the inner equilibrium.

In the course of the signs' Karmic evolution, Libra is at the stage where *consequence* is very real. There's an awareness of it, but not mastery. Thinking (or trying to think) things through to their very end, all possible outcomes, irrespective of the *self* - is part of the Libra journey. Choosing the best possible outcome for the pink-cloud string-quartet-filled Candyland that they (secretly) aspire to make real, is what causes most of Libra procrastination.

It's the principle around which their morals are built. We feel we owe it to the world (friends, enemies, whoever) - to be fair, and unprejudiced. It's seen as a basic human right, the right to fairness. And, being Libra, the sign expects reciprocation. Which, obviously it won't get - and that causes the further spiral into bitterness and constant fault-finding.

posted March 11, 2016 11:22 AM            

Of course, 'unfairness' happens everywhere, all the time - to various degrees. So, it's impossible for it to not affect your friendly neighbourhood Libra to some extent. If it builds up over time as resentment, it comes out in a lot of harmful ways.

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As for me, I too feel shortchanged.

Where are my promised dimples and Venusian charm?
I only have bushels of snarkyness and Grumpy cat genes.

posted March 11, 2016 06:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
The whole fairness thing is also what causes a lot of inner turmoil. Because of it's association with *basic rights*. How would you feel seeing someone live under an oppressive dictator - no free speech, cruel, arbitrary laws, no dignity of self - that's how Libra feels when they see someone being *unfair* to someone.

Of course, 'unfairness' happens everywhere, all the time - to various degrees. So, it's impossible for it to not affect your friendly neighbourhood Libra to some extent. If it builds up over time as resentment, it comes out in a lot of harmful ways.

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As for me, I too feel shortchanged.

Where are my promised dimples and Venusian charm?
I only have bushels of snarkyness and Grumpy cat genes.

*sigh* Life is just not fair.

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posted March 12, 2016 05:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
I have the dimples! Wowy!!
I kind of wish I didn't have them because I don't like dimples but WHAT CAN YA DO??

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