posted March 10, 2016 01:14 PM            

The serious look in my face make some people think that I'm arrogant and position oriented, while most of the time I'm thinking about home and family, I don't even care about my position at work although I don't know why I climb faster than others, I don't even ask or try hard. And now life is so much struggle and I can't even get out from my work.

Is this Saturn in 1st house?

posted March 10, 2016 01:45 PM            

Having Saturn in 1st would make you eligible for top positions without trying too hard. This is true.

posted March 10, 2016 02:37 PM            

Saturn likes to be mature, disciplined and stay in the background. Uranus is the rebel with pink hair and a tattooed head

Hence, there may be a hard struggle.

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posted March 10, 2016 02:38 PM            

Lack of self-love or a fractured sense of self (chiron conjunct ascendant or in the first house), can sometimes turn people into bullies who ultimately wind up getting back exactly what they put out, so it's complex. I say this without malice, (or even concern, im not that emotionally invested), but with a certain amount of pity, because if you didn't learn to love yourself while young, you never will, and youll spend the rest of your life being a slave to the need to find validation through other people.

.....And thats my idea of a living hell.

posted March 10, 2016 02:48 PM            

I experienced harassment/abuse in childhood and early teenage years, but that was more because of the environment and other factors.

Anyway, it was usually from people who were much older than me, in higher positions of power/authority, above me in the food chain...etc... Not so much my peers.

In adulthood, well there have been dramas with other people. Sometimes, for whatever reason, some people may choose to try and shake me up a little, but they always back off after I chew them out or firmly establish boundaries. I suppose that's a part of life, I don't really pay more attention than I have to. Plus, in adulthood I have the power to makes changes, choose people whom I want to associate with...etc... So I don't have to bear with it like I did when I was small and didn't have much power over my own life.

posted March 10, 2016 05:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I have heard Chiron in 1st house being prone to bullying. Not so much Saturn.

Having Saturn in 1st would make you eligible for top positions without trying too hard. This is true.

Feeling undermined is a 12th house thing. What sign is on the 12th house cusp?

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I have Chiron in 6th house, not sure if it's also in 7th house.

posted March 10, 2016 05:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Hemilla:
i was bullied in high school but i dont have saturn in 1st ,i have it in 9th,but 9th is not high school

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What does your dejanira do? I think it is number 157.

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posted March 10, 2016 06:00 PM            

That asteroid really showings being victimized, which is bullied.

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posted March 10, 2016 06:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

What does your dejanira do? I think it is number 157.

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it is on 25.31 degree of Aries,in my 10th house - sextiles sun (ruler of asc) and squares neptune (ruler of 9th) and uranus (ruler of 7th and 8th)

what do you think?

posted March 10, 2016 06:24 PM            

I was shy and reversed in young age and didn't talk so much. Adulthood I feel like my moon always in fire after I learned to talk more and to stand up for myself, it's hard to control those Aries fire and I attract more bullies who loves my honesty and innocent approach to the world, especially the older one. I don't know why in young age I don't feel the moon's fire at all.

It's almost my Saturn returned, and it feels like Life is really hard like hell and trust no one although I have this little optimism about there are some other good people out there, but none in my life.

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
I have saturn in the 1st house conj asc.

I experienced harassment/abuse in childhood and early teenage years, but that was more because of the environment and other factors.

Anyway, it was usually from people who were much older than me, in higher positions of power/authority, above me in the food chain...etc... Not so much my peers.

In adulthood, well there have been dramas with other people. Sometimes, for whatever reason, some people may choose to try and shake me up a little, but they always back off after I chew them out or firmly establish boundaries. I suppose that's a part of life, I don't really pay more attention than I have to. Plus, in adulthood I have the power to makes changes, choose people whom I want to associate with...etc... So I don't have to bear with it like I did when I was small and didn't have much power over my own life.

There is a theme of establishing my place, building character and defending my rights. From an astrological pov, I suppose it could be a manifestation of 1st house saturn. After all saturn gives it tough, and being in the 1st house it may take time and effort to overcome hurdles and build "the self".

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posted March 10, 2016 06:30 PM            

My Saturn forces me to stay in the ground it's safe if you keep stay where you are, while my Uranus forces me to experience another land, breaking free, and stay out from comfort zone. I'm still figuring out how to deal with this opposin energy, kinda like a curse.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I would say that Saturn and Uranus in the 1st, as well as Uranus would be hard because these opposing energies.

Saturn likes to be mature, disciplined and stay in the background. Uranus is the rebel with pink hair and a tattooed head

Hence, there may be a hard struggle.

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posted March 10, 2016 06:54 PM            

Stick your chart up with it, so we can see a visual.

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posted March 10, 2016 07:02 PM            

Stick up yours, too!

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posted March 10, 2016 08:16 PM            

I have an aries moon too ^^

I hope that it will get better for you. People come in waves, some are great and some aren’t, some go well with us, some don’t. It will probably be helpful to be sure of yourself, as to not let them get to you and bring your mood down. Go about your own business as usual, if they try to mess with you, show them what you’re made of. Fat chances that will make them think twice next time. Clashes with people are inevitable, don’t take it to heart. Although if you are sure that they are toxic, or the environment is toxic, I think it’s best to get out of it. Life is too short to waste dealing with that.

posted March 10, 2016 09:32 PM            

I experienced the same thing in nursing. I look really young and I was a new nurse, so people used to dump off their responsibilities on me without even blinking, even if I had 7 patients to care for and no techs. That whole nurses eat their own mentality is messed up and awful.

You totally don't have to answer this...what did you decide to do instead? I'm finding it difficult to transition out of nursing.

posted March 10, 2016 09:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What does your dejanira do, SV?

That asteroid really showings being victimized, which is bullied.

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In Aquarius/12th house at 6 degrees. My NN is also at 6 degrees Aquarius.

posted March 10, 2016 09:41 PM            

That is the reason. You will learn the lessons inherent in dejanira.

The goal of this difficult life theme would be to help others who are dealing with the same thing.

I would say that this is part of your life purpose!

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posted March 10, 2016 09:49 PM            

The same thing happened with Saturn transiting my 12th, back in 2010/2011/2012. Saturn in the 12th kicked things off, just a few months after its entrance. Chiron and Neptune square Moon/Venus/Nodes, added to it, I'm sure. Pluto and Uranus hitting all of my cardinal (T-square). Not fun.
I was returned to that same place that I'd been as a teenager, and thought I'd left it long behind me. Only this time, it happened online as well, and at home. I had nowhere to withdraw, and recover - that was my life, and still is at times.

I've had no apologies from several of the people, including family members, and I still have trouble getting up most days. I finally forced myself out of bed at lunchtime today, but it was difficult. I have no reason to get up every day, anymore. Not since I lost my last dog. And it was the same transit that kicked it all off. I had read that there should have been a resolution, not a recurrence, as Saturn crossed my ascendant again.

posted March 10, 2016 10:17 PM            

I have been bullied all the way up to university. It just seemed like people perceive me as an easy target even if I do absolutely nothing to them or around them. Like I'm an emotional abuse magnet....

posted March 10, 2016 10:47 PM            

Find out what your Dejanira does.

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