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neptunicity
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posted April 03, 2016 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neptunicity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to hear that. I have the same experience with my dad, but it continued until my adult life, despite the nasty confrontations. I have Sun square Neptune. Now my interest is triggered to research what aspects are prone to sexual abuse. I have Dejanira Trine Nessus.

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Elysia
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posted April 03, 2016 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 03, 2016 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
XzaultaX, neptunicity..
So sorry to hear that.

@XzaultaX, did it happen at other times in your childhood as well?

@neptunicity,
That's awful. How did you get it to stop, eventually?

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XzaultaX
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posted April 03, 2016 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XzaultaX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well it happened a few times through ages 4-6 maybe 7

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posted April 03, 2016 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
totally agree with everything Faith said in her post.

Not sure about your case ( OP),
but I need to say that my sister was handling my sweet nephew's hygiene business until he was about maybe 5 old, even maybe 6..... While I was there in the room as well. Sometime I even would clean him if it was necessary. There was absolutely nothing sexual about that. It was very motherly, very caring.

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athenegoddess
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posted April 03, 2016 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mother looks very unbalanced with Moon/Mercury square Pluto.. seems abusive and bipolar even...

Looks like you inherited her Venus in Scorpio.. It would be clear of her sexual issues if asteroid Lucifer were aspecting this.

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neptunicity
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posted April 03, 2016 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neptunicity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Condoowit
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posted April 04, 2016 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Condoowit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptunicity, I don't know the set-up in the house you have to move back into, but do you know about those door stop alarms? Walmart and other retailers sell them online and they're inexpensive and apparently work well. If anyone tried to open your bedroom door while you were sleeping, the alarm would sound and wake you up.

Having said that, you could also ask Archangel Michael to place a golden dome of protection over you every night. It's that simple. You ask, he does. It's free and it can't hurt.

I wish you luck.

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neptunicity
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posted April 05, 2016 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for neptunicity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LoVeLy
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posted April 05, 2016 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoVeLy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like your chart 👍 I'm a scorpio rising too 6° ( according to western astrology ) your Jupiter is conjunct my Jupiter and Mercury in Leo and your Mars is exactly conjunct my Moon in Libra lol Yikes !!!

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LoVeLy
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posted April 05, 2016 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoVeLy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh and I'm sorry about your horrible memory 👎 I think it's best if you stay away from her completely.

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posted April 05, 2016 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got really busy with a chart. I will be back when I can, my dear Friend. I see all our LL friends are helping you, so I am thrilled about that.

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mirage29
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posted April 05, 2016 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
XzaultaX ...{{ }}

Based on what you said in your OP, and on my own personal experience dealing with trauma and many many survivors of sexual abuse, I would AGREE and add emphasis with what Faith said.

Faith, ... What you said based on your own experience and observations (as mother to a young son), was sensitive and insightful, deeply mature, open, crystal clear, and grounded.

I've seen a lot of 'clinical errors' made among unseasoned (yet truly genuinely sincere, compassionate, and enthusiastic) counselors, who MAY (knowingly or unknowingly) be 'leading' their clients into a belief that they were sexually abused or molested.

Some of these counselors/therapists make hoards of money off the insurance (trust funds, wealthy self-pay) of vulnerable clients.

Whether the counselors do it deliberately/maliciously or not, it is hard to discern unless you follow their history over the long-run. Some are eventually discovered and uncovered by other clients who become bold enough to open up and share with each other. Mutual sharing about counseling-experience and the results gained, is very telling.

Sometimes with a client, you put it out of your mind whether or not the client is "saying the truth"? .... What is 'important' is that 'the client' believes energetically experientially that they had the abuse. You 'follow the energy' of that impression they had, and help them with that deep sense they had.

Things in the chart do not prove or disprove actual truth--- but it can 'suggest' where or how in the native's chart they interpreted their experience.

The first time I ever had a reading from a real seasoned master-astrologer, the first words from him were so validating to me, as I WAS abused by my own mother, and I had defended her with everything in me. He said gently yet with a firm knowing of the actual answer (from years and years of astrology practice), What happened between you and your mother? What went on in that house while you were growing up?

It took my breath away, and I wanted to just melt and cry right there on the phone with him. He touched 'the spot' of greatest hurts. I still weep when I think about his words to me.... Because it was part of what I had needed to acknowledge inside myself during those days. That the world isn't filled with rosy people, and there ARE people in this world who work overtime to hurt others. --- It's just 'extra hard' when those people are the ones who were supposed to be trusted, were assigned in life with the task of guarding you, and biologically protecting you so you could grow up strong and sound, eventually to develop and add your Beautiful giftings to make society work and make this place a Better place to live.

Sometimes when abuse occurs, it's not about you (you did nothing wrong, there was nothing wrong with 'needing to be cleaned' properly... as what you said XzaultaX, and Faith), but it's about the psychological state and circumstances of the care-giver.

I have mounds and mounds of compassion for my mother. I'll be 61 next month. I've lived life, and seen soooo much. It's really amazing how humans interpret their interactions with each other... it's like a miracle that we get it right. The mind is sooo complex. Communication is truly as marvelous as the faculty of sight and being able to see with our eyes.

We HAVE to be 'generous' when we go to interpret another person's actions, as there is so much going on in our worlds.

It's fun to look at charts, and to guess the associations between live-experience and the lines and angles and dots.

Whatever we 'think' we see, know that it can be discovered later that there was a whole other side of the story....

I say all this with Loving-Compassion to every soul represented here.

If you've been abused, or think you've been abused, ... I send you much Love and much Light today. May you Heal swiftly. May you find the right counselors for your needs. May the Angels hold you dearly in their arms and comfort you through all sadnesses and every grieving tear and moment.

... *Heart*

(music) Sending You Light (Melanie Demore) [3:39] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSNQFstyu_s

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stillatlarge
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posted April 05, 2016 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Moon Square Neptune and my mother abused me like that as well but it was in adolescence and young adult years. She is gone and I couldn't help but feel a sense of relief.

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XzaultaX
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posted April 06, 2016 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for XzaultaX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you mirage and still

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mirage29
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posted April 06, 2016 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
XzaultaX I like your name. It's "exalted" with a proper-respectful kiss on either cheek... X X .... Include a safe-hug from your Mirage, too! *grin*

At Still... so sorry {{{ }}}

One of my favorite astrologers is Alan Oken. I've been on his Soul-Centered Astrology newsletter for years now. I'll never forget this one article I had seen on The Moon, and Biology and Karma.... He does little facebook articles, and I just found this morning that he has been discussing Moon aspects. (Started Apr 4, and has one for today Apr 6). You don't need to have a facebook account to read his material... it is open.
http://www.facebook.com/Alan-Oken-Wisdom-of-Astrology-107426479276426/timeline?ref=page_internal

In case that link doesn't work, here is his website. You can search his articles and find the one having to do with Moon aspects.
http://www.alanoken.com/
http://www.alanoken.com/index.php?page=articles

Just click on title of articles.
This is called esoteric soul-centered astrology (like you have various types such as mundane, classical, evolutionary, etc.). I love studying all the different approaches to interpreting aspects, etc. Some of the Sidereal Astrologers are REALLY good at interpreting aspects, even though they use different houses/signs. (MTZ).

I wish you many blessings on your road to Healing. Stay true to yourself. And astrology REALLY REALLY is useful during your process of therapy. I had been to counselors who just 'didn't get me'... The way I 'found myself' was through finding my bliss in astrology studies. Sometimes, you can take a report, and even WITHOUT understanding what signs, houses, planets are, you can GLEAN soooooo much wisdom from the rich rich material these saint-astrologers provide for us.

So in a way, you don't even need to understand in order to get counsel from what's online, and through youtube videos. The Fields are Rich!

If you ever CAN afford a true master-astrologer, it will enhance you.... in your recovery AND in learning true astrology. It takes years and years of 'accurate' work to master. Get one who is reputable and KNOWS what they're doing. Not everyone who claims to be an astrologer truly knows astrology... Do your research, contact 'Professional' astrology organizations and see if they have credentials before you put down finances (especially if you are limited in funds--- which you may be or become if you are planning to be in a psychotherapeutic course of treatment. VERY expensive, financially AND emotionally. Be sure you have someone 'credentialed' there too. Do your homework. There are a lot of folks that some states allow to hang business licenses who are incompetent to handle folks with traumatic injuries.... but they won't tell you that. They'll collect your insurance, gladly, and just waste YOUR time. It's YOUR nickle.).

There ARE astrologers who also have training in psychotherapy, too-- as well as some psychotherapists who have had training in astrology. Search around....

Don't waste your young life! USE your years, get your healing, work hard. ... And KNOW Your Astrology would be #1 !!! *grin*

You might look into taking astrology classes with a 'professional'... especially one has been a therapist before-- there are a few of those available, too.

I've often thought how 'therapeutic' a group therapy or mutual-support group could be if you made it around the study of astrology.


I'm laughing at how you said your from : "Your Mind"... LOVE IT!!!! ..... I've got a song for you on that one.

Wishing you sooo many Blessings, and Godspeed your Journey to Healing.

MUCH Love and Energetic Support to you....

(music) Windmills of Your Mind (Peter Grant) [3:01] http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&feature=related&v=dLx83xXKmPA&gl=IL

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Faith
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posted April 06, 2016 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glad you're here, mirage.

Wish you the best, XzaultaX.

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Condoowit
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posted April 06, 2016 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Condoowit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptunicity, coming through the ceiling while you are sleeping sounds like the work of a major predator. I'm going to assume that you don't report him because you are financially dependent, or something like that. I am going to resist the urge to give unsolicited advice, but this upsets me tremendously. I am saying prayers for your protection.

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posted April 06, 2016 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I wasn't sure about the ceiling, I'd tape up some paper over it. Even if someone could manage to sneak in without waking me, there's no way he could sneak back out AND tape or pin it back up (not if the door is bolted and he doesn't have a key, at least not without leaving other telltale signs).

Of course, it wouldn't be hard to gather some things from the hardware supply store that could block it (enough to prevent an adult from getting through) as well. I'd just hope there was a window there in case someone needed to get in for an emergency.

And these days...quite a few people have been busted for all sorts of criminal or crazy behavior with spy and nanny cams set up in a room or home, some that automatically turn on when motion is detected, or just continually record that can go on for several hours.

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XzaultaX
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posted April 06, 2016 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XzaultaX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Woah mirage. Im actually shocked that you would spend your time and write two essays for this topic. Thank you this means a lot

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mirage29
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posted April 06, 2016 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
.... You're Welcome. And, You're Worth It. Thank you for the opportunity.

Thanks for your comment, Faith.

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posted April 06, 2016 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
XzaultaX -

Are you usually trusting of the people around you? For instance, close friends and family? Or do you feel more like no one is truly trustworthy?


Faith -

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I guess I'm saying, I hope you are careful about your memories and reluctant to form the worst opinion. Most mothers don't even want to be changing training pants, checking rashes, or making sure kids used the toilet properly, they don't want to be involved in their kids' private business, but there is no way around it.

I agree with this. And I also think that people who are more prone to be distrustful of others, are also more prone to forming the worst opinions... and jumping to the worst conclusions.

Which is why I brought up the -trust- issue...

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XzaultaX
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posted April 06, 2016 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XzaultaX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm for family no for CLOSE friends yes

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neptunicity
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posted April 07, 2016 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neptunicity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 07, 2016 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Condoowit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG Neptunicity. I totally believe you, despite the craziness of it all. I've had my share of people trying to set me up for a fall, usually in the workplace. It's incredible the lengths some people will go to. The permutations of evil are endless, it seems.

I have an excellent psychic in my neck of the woods who does readings either by Skype or phone, in case you're interested.

Meanwhile, like I said, I will just pray for you.

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