posted May 01, 2016 10:10 PM            

Scorpio Mars has some Lucifers just like every other Mars...

But I wouldn't call that the pure signature of the energy. More like a steel spine, risk taking, sexiness often existing apart from other, higher and deeper pursuits.

For instance Christy Turlington is a model (if you don't know) who wrote a yoga book and has done a lot of work improving childbearing facilities for mothers and babies in Africa.

Bradley/Chelsea Manning is noted for a sex change secondarily to a hugely courageous act of defiance towards the war machine.

Gandhi struggled with sexual temptation but most people remember him as the guy who wouldn't capitulate or compromise his principles even when his innocent protestors were getting gunned down.

Ron Paul, gynecologist by profession (Scorpio Mars) rallying people to question our money's value and take a hard look at our economic realities.

Glenn Greenwald is married to a much younger man I think (?) and also takes on the power structure through his investigative journalism.

Oprah began her career winning a beauty pageant with a brutally honest answer to a question and has made a living out of getting to the bottom of what makes people tick.

posted May 02, 2016 12:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Capricorn Mars is offended.

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posted May 02, 2016 04:56 AM            

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Originally posted by sunflower-moon:
I made a post about Mars in Scorpio a while back talking about the same thing basically. Both my mom and my sister have it and they are vicious when they're angry! I've also had two close friends with their Mars in Scorpio and it was the same thing with the two of them. I never found them to be exceedingly charming or sweet, or whatever but I do think my mom could fall into that category until you really get to know her. The main problem I see with them is that when they're hurt - they retaliate and they aim below the belt, and basically say whatever they can to hurt you.

For example, my mom and I have always had problems but one day she lost it because I hadn't replied to her text message quickly enough and she left me all these voicemails about how horrible of a person I am and how I was going nowhere in life and how I was the devil's child (ironic? lol) so we were on the outs for a while after that. My nephew was having his 3rd birthday party about 2 weeks after that whole fiasco and because I see my nephew all the time, I told my sister that I didn't feel comfortable coming to his party because I didn't want to be around my mother so I asked her if I could come the day before or the day after to bring him his birthday gift and to maybe do something with him. She then proceeded to go off on me saying how horrible I am and how she didn't know if she wanted her son around me because she didn't want him to pick up my "selfish" tendencies. Very much below the belt because she knows how much I care about my niece and nephew and how much I've done to help her throughout finishing school while having kids. Also below the belt because she's well aware of my mom and I's tumultuous relationship and the affect it's had on my life. Sometimes I need to separate myself from her and not be around it at all because it's what's best for me.

Not to get into my whole life story lol but just an example. Maybe it's the less evolved version of Scorpio Mars, I don't know. The two friends I mentioned weren't as bad, towards me at least, but I saw one of them go off on her little brother and was really taken aback by it. My grandfather on my dad's side and my Uncle have their Mars in Scorpio as well and my grandma says they're both the same way but I've, personally, never seen or dealt with that side of them. Mel Gibson and Charlie Sheen both have Scorpio Mars and I think we're all well aware of some of their rants.

I really don't have much experience with Scorpio Mars, though. Other than who I've mentioned I haven't been close to anyone else with that placement.

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That was very well said

As a Venus in Scorpio, the Mars in Scorpio individual repels me.

It sounds really strange. But I think that getting myself involved with one,will not end well

posted May 02, 2016 05:36 AM            

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Originally posted by meyray:

To come to my point - Scorpio Mars in its essence is a passive placement that needs something external to vitalize it for better or for worse. And when that something happens, as is the Scorpio way, it becomes extreme.

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posted May 02, 2016 05:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
One thing that can be noted is that a Mars in Scorpio knows how to get under your skin. I've seen other Mars in Scorpios do it, and they do it well.

However, you may never see this side of them because it is a water sign. Mars in Water will most likely hide their anger and prefer to not release it externally until pushed to that point. Cancers Mars does it especially and so does Mars in Pisces (when they get mad and give you that "look").

That's my long, ongoing explanation of my ideas and thoughts on Mars in Scorpio

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I agree,

posted May 03, 2016 04:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
I mentioned it in the other thread, but I did date two men with Mars in Scorpio.

Yes, they definitely had a malicious side to them (Virgo and Capricorn Suns), at least verbally. Although both were prone to getting into fist fights with other guys, or at least retaliating against people they felt had wronged them (even if they hadn't). The Capricorn Sun guy wasn't really equipped to get into a lot of physical altercations, lol. But he was capable of being pretty vindictive towards people. He had a Cancer Moon.

I also mentioned (in the previous thread) that I have a lovely friend who is an Aquarius Sun with Libra Asc (I've forgotten her Moon ), and she has never acted that way, that I've seen. However, if she thinks someone is in the wrong on an ethical level, she can really demonstrate a passion for justice served...even if it's not quite as extreme as she thinks it is.

I've never been on the receiving side of that with her, though. In my experience she is a wonderful, fun, hilarious person to be around, and I enjoy her company tremendously.

Just adding my experience, for whatever it's worth.

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were the men you dated as legendary as LLers make it?

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Originally posted by jjj:
I have sco moon (2 sco) and mars (10 sco) plus venus and Jupiter in Scorpio.
I have had anger management problems all my life. I have the most horrible anger outbursts... it's like volcano and I really understand people who kill someone in a similar state (sigh). I really try to control it.

On the bright side I have lots of strength and stamina and can move mountains for myself and others if something needs to be done. Sometime I feel like a female warrior lol.

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i can see you have a very intense persona

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Haha. I laughed.
It's kinda true thou.

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You'd think there's no way they could have a Scorpio Mars... But indeed, we can be very, very mellow.

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Originally posted by meyray:
[B]Despite being considered a ruler of Mars, Scorpio is, in the end, still a water sign.

Mars being subjugated to a water sign will always have a more introverted approach to taking action, aggression etc. so I think a regular individual with this placement will have Martian qualities toned down and not seem like a hellraiser.

The catch is that Scorpio energy pulls a great deal to the dark side and has a lot of power when it's "evil".

In my opinion Mars in Scorpio has the [b]potential to create a monster out of a person who already has underlying personality issues or chaos in their chart. As are all Scorpio placements.

You could say this about all signs in reality but like I said above Scorpio is a stronger catalyst for darkness. I believe most people express its negativity pretty mildly compared to its full potential.

To come to my point - Scorpio Mars in its essence is a passive placement that needs something external to vitalize it for better or for worse. And when that something happens, as is the Scorpio way, it becomes extreme.[/B]

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I would like to remind all that read this that Mercury is in Retrograde. By posting this I mean no offense to anyone else and do not wish for anyone to take offense. Read at your own discretion

I have an afflicted Mars in Scorpio. It's square Mercury, Neptune, & Sun and is opposite Saturn whilst conjunct the ascendant in the first (square MC). Luckily it makes a trine to Venus or it would be dying lol. It is also parallel Pluto in declinations, which most definitely makes it potent.

With the combination of other afflicted planets, especially Mercury, Sun, and Saturn, I can be extremely insensitive and hurtful when I'm angry. A friend of mine who also has an afflicted Mars in Scorpio has told me that I made her cry when we've gotten into arguments, even though she hasn't caused that effect with me. However, her Mars is retrograde.

Having a Gemini Moon only contributes to the problematic side of me in which I fight with two sides of my emotional context. Derailing for a bit, having a Gemini Moon can be scary af sometimes. I've noticed that with certain people that I'm getting along with I'll suddenly think "I want her to die", when that's absolutely not what I want at all. This can be very problematic when a chart has MiS. It is a hades Moon in the 8th (opposite Pluto exact, tightest aspect in chart), so that probably colors my moon a great deal.

Back on topic, I can be prone to using people's feelings against them in order to "completely destroy them" since that may be what I set as my goal. To add on, I've noticed that when I explode it is like an Aries Mars, which is shocking enough as it is (Aries Moon in Mars Persona?). One thing that can be noted is that a Mars in Scorpio knows how to get under your skin. I've seen other Mars in Scorpios do it, and they do it well.

However, you may never see this side of them because it is a water sign. Mars in Water will most likely hide their anger and prefer to not release it externally until pushed to that point. Cancers Mars does it especially and so does Mars in Pisces (when they get mad and give you that "look").

That's my long, ongoing explanation of my ideas and thoughts on Mars in Scorpio

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yes, i noticed they are amazingly good at getting under other people's skins. I never see them lash out or display lack of control

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Originally posted by Southern Sun:
Well I would figure Capricorn mars as Lucifer in the flesh more than anything

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I kinda disagree but I do see where you are coming from.

posted May 04, 2016 10:06 AM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
why were some responses deleted?

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The MiS is after them!

Idk tbh

posted May 04, 2016 10:11 AM            

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were the men you dated as legendary as LLers make it?

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Well, a lot of these people, in addition to having their Mars in Scorpio, have Mars trine my H8 Pisces Jupiter, so... Yes, I would say so.

posted May 04, 2016 10:58 AM            

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why were some responses deleted?

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posted May 04, 2016 11:28 AM            

Staring, mind games, seeking submissive women, taboo sexuality...and he does it so easily while Lou can't quite pull it off as the sex addicted roomie can.

posted May 04, 2016 11:47 AM            

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The MiS is after them!

Idk tbh

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Must be the case

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Originally posted by Violets:

Well, a lot of these people, in addition to having their Mars in Scorpio, have Mars trine my H8 Pisces Jupiter, so... Yes, I would say so.

Although in retrospect, it was that aspect specifically that was a good match. I've met people who had the placement but not the synastry aspect, and the spark isn't really there as much.

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uh-oh

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
If you mean your responses, then perhaps you were posting too many for the server to accommodate. When a thread gets too many responses too fast (even by just one person) then sometimes posts start disappearing.

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The legendary Scorpio in Mars?
http://youtu.be/BJyZKgPXDPI?t=2m46s

Staring, mind games, seeking submissive women, taboo sexuality...and he does it so easily while Lou can't quite pull it off as the sex addicted roomie can.

Actually, he seems less scary than how many describe Scorpio, especially Scorpio Mars (though those who describe them in scary ways treat the scary stuff as desirable). This guy is a perv, but he isn't predatory and is easily avoided by people like me since he'd easily find other women (like the fans of Scorpio Mars) to occupy himself with, leaving me alone.

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posted May 04, 2016 11:48 AM            

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Originally posted by meyray:
Despite being considered a ruler of Mars, Scorpio is, in the end, still a water sign.

Mars being subjugated to a water sign will always have a more introverted approach to taking action, aggression etc. so I think a regular individual with this placement will have Martian qualities toned down and not seem like a hellraiser.

The catch is that Scorpio energy pulls a great deal to the dark side and has a lot of power when it's "evil".

In my opinion Mars in Scorpio has the [b]potential to create a monster out of a person who already has underlying personality issues or chaos in their chart. As are all Scorpio placements.

You could say this about all signs in reality but like I said above Scorpio is a stronger catalyst for darkness. I believe most people express its negativity pretty mildly compared to its full potential.

To come to my point - Scorpio Mars in its essence is a passive placement that needs something external to vitalize it for better or for worse. And when that something happens, as is the Scorpio way, it becomes extreme.[/B]

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Let's not forget Pluto rulership of Scorpio will certainly add a dark side to Mars' action potentias. In other words, if a Mars in Scorpio person wants to do underhanded sinister deeds, they have the capability to pull it better than other mars.

posted May 05, 2016 09:45 PM            

And the Scorpio Mars with his Capricorn Mars henchman (henchgoblin?):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7futPJdeOg

posted May 06, 2016 06:14 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
In all seriousness, this dialog about love could've been made by (or on behalf of) a Scorpio Mars, at least as typically described on LL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyuleKKSgyE

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Or people with Venus opposite Pluto.

posted May 06, 2016 08:52 AM            

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