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sag_stellium
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posted May 06, 2016 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sag_stellium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ENFP.

I can definitely see the extrovert in my chart. I have most of my planets in the top half of my chart.

I have a stellium in the 8th house (water) so maybe that gives me F?

But I have mercury, sun, saturn, uranus all conjunct. You'd think that'd make me a thinker. Sun and saturn are 1 degree apart! That should be grounds for being a J right?

Argument for perceiver: I have 4 planets in mutable signs and 3 planets in mutable houses.

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posted May 06, 2016 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ReachingForTheStars:
O.M.G! I know, right! It's funny because I'm so Gemini! You wouldn't think I wouldn't need as much closure as I do!!! One person in this thread equated their Gem placements with the "P" function and that is a completely valid conclusion considering what we stereotypically know about the sign!! What's funny is my "curiosity" is what drives me to find a conclusion. Like... I just HAVE to know!!! But, that could be Saturn in my chart grounding it like you say.

I think the Virgo/Scorpio blend takes the critical nature of Virgo and focuses it in on precision much like Jupiter serves to expand what it touches. Scorpio is like the spice you add to something to highlight its natural flavor. It seems some energies may be subservient to others.


Ok, wow!
The way you describe astrology makes me feel excited about it again...I have not met anyone that sees it like a chemistry project, thats how i see it. Like the of soup our souls...we are mixing all the ingredients together and all of our soups tastes slightly different because of all the tiny variation, we could be born the exact day, only minutes apart but its enough to change the soups seasoning slightly and give it a unique flavor. I have described astrology like this before on this forum, nobody seemed to excited by my analogy. But we all see things in our own ways.

Ok, as far as me and my "N"...my Pallas exactly opposes my Moon? I have Scorpio NN sextile my virgo Moon by 2 degrees?
Pluto is conjunct AC...
I also have a gemini Mars trine scorp Uranus so youd think id be "P"...but i have my saggy Sun/Merc tightly trine leo Saturn
Neptune is in a stellium with Sun/Merc(nept is 6 degrees away from sun/merc)

Why isnt my guy "N"??
I just dont know...i almost wonder if he will grow into being an "N"?? Maybe he has not allowed himself to dive into his 12th? He has a Pisces NN square his AC....

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posted May 06, 2016 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For anyone to reference...

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posted May 09, 2016 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 09, 2016 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Infp.
Otherwise known as the type most likely to be into astrology.

I haven't found any correlation between MBTI types and astrology so far, though.

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posted May 09, 2016 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not really there could be a correlation based on your environment, I use to be INFJ and as I got older I began testing towards T instead of F.
INTJ perhaps mercury/mars/Pluto square for TJ and IN for Water Sun.

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posted May 09, 2016 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bearee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
INFJ

Makes sense with all that cancer in my chart + my sun in the 8th house

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posted May 11, 2016 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
INFJ: I'm a Pisces sun and moon.

I think water moon signs are more prone to feeling "F" and possibly introverted "I" personalities.

I think Aries moon signs are perceiving "P" personality.

I'd imagine fire sign moons are more extroverted "E" personality. And air sign moons are Thinker "T" personalities.

I love psychology (Pisces 8th house sun, moon, and Mercury" and I love Astrology. So I've been fascinated by both Myers Briggs and Astrology for awhile. All of the observations stated above are what I have commonly observed.

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posted October 13, 2016 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apparently I'm ENFP.
At the moment I don't feel quite like it, but that's probably because I'm a bit stuck in a rut and unable to use my primary functions...

I am not that familiar with Myers-Briggs to really find the exact factors in my chart to contribute to it, but, some of the main placements:

- Sun Libra, 7H, square Uranus, Moon, trine Mars, sextile Chiron, trine ASC
- Moon Sag, 11H, square Venus, inconjunct Chiron
- Aqua ASC, square Pluto, Uranus in 11H conjunct Neptune
- Sag MC, conjunct BML
- Gem IC, conjunt Mars

It's funny how all my closest friends are INFP

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posted October 13, 2016 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Four personal in Virgo
INTJ
Not surprising.

I think I'd rather be an ENF* to be honest. I don't know.

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posted October 13, 2016 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunarRose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
INFP
Cancer Moon trine Scorpio Pluto
Many planets below the horizon

A guy online once told me he was an INTJ and that was supposedly considered rare. I don't know... Pratically every male I run into under 40 -and a few above- has either said he was an INTJ or an ENTJ lol. I also know quite a few female INTJs. Honestly, I'm either an INTJ magnet or it's not that rare. I wonder how old that data was? Maybe that study should be redone, so the results more accurately represent people today, especially younger people like millennials.

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DualGemV2
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posted October 13, 2016 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGemV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about mutalble signs and change....?

Before I turned 18, I always scored as an INTP. But now I score as an INTJ.

I doubt most mutable signs remain the same as the enviroment changes around them.
But I could be wrong...

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Hemilla
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posted October 13, 2016 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am infp

Gem sun,venus and merc,pisces moon,leo asc

INFP is known as ''the dreamer'' and so is the pisces moon,so i got that going on for me

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the89freespirit
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posted October 13, 2016 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the89freespirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's interesting. I feel like there are certain correlations between certain astro placements and MBTI types. But I don't feel like the two are that strongly related.

In reading the profiles, ENTP sounds exactly like Aquarius energy. But many Aquarius folks will not have the type. INFJ is very much like Scorpio. But again many people with Scorpio placements won't get that. Yet some will.

I think the difference between the two is that in astrology, your chart basically chooses you. You also choose how to deal with it, of course. But your birth info means that you basically play the hand you are dealt.

Myers Briggs, on the other hand, is highly mutable early in life. I don't feel like anyone is one type their whole life. You go through many different phases of being.But I think, by the time you reach your mid to late twenties and know yourself increasingly better, you eventually grow and settle into a type. This is also because the results are all dependent on a test with questions that are dependent on honest self awareness, which takes maturity to achieve. Then you get the type that sticks to you.

For instance, with me, I got quite a few different types over the years. I went from INFJ to opening up a lot more and feeling like an ENFJ to developing a more relaxed, carefree relationship with myself and attitude toward life that made me an ENFP (which I did get once before). This is the result I always get now and, at the ripe old age of 27 , I feel like it is the one that describes me the best. The other two were more so the version of myself when I was trying to live up to others' ideas or expectations of me. Now that I feel very free of that and very connected to my true self, no matter what others say, I know I'm ENFP.

I think the connection to my chart is that ENFP loves connecting with people and is a very spirited, lively presence in others' lives (Sun in the 7th in Leo) but also is actually the most introverted extrovert and likes a lot of alone time to reflect (12th House stellium). And that we can also be so multifaceted! So I think the thing that connects your chart to your MBTI type can be very random.

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posted October 13, 2016 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bearee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
INFJ

Introverted - Pluto in 1st?
Intuitive - Sun in 8th
Feeling - Moon/Venus Cancer
Judging - Taurus Sun and Libra ASC? ;p

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i just saw i had already posted in here LOL

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ReachingForTheStars
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posted October 14, 2016 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReachingForTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well looky here, I was just looking through this thread the other day wishing I had time to reply.

Gabby -

Mercury was retrograde the last time I attempted to reply here... I wrote out this really long assessment of my observations and lost it when trying to post. I didn't have the time to redo it nor could I articulate my thoughts the same way. It sucks when my ruler keeps going retrograde.

So much to say, but typing on my phone sucks!!

Hey DopGang, I think we had a conversation about this in another thread!

So to the reason I was revisiting this thread...

To the ENFPs:

Theoretically, ENFPs are my (INTJ) most complementary counterpart. We are often described as opposites, but as far as the cognitive functions go, we aren't exactly opposites. Our 2nd and 3rd functions are flip flopped, and our dominant and inferior functions are similar but used differently. I was wondering if the astrology would agree. The INTJ and ENFP are supposed to fill in each other's gaps having strong traits where the other is weak and weak where the other is strong. Astrologically, besides the obvious sign and planetary aspects, this sounds like pattern completions, and possibly element and modality complements. Anyone else see why I'd think this?

For me, I lack the water element which is most associated with feeling, hence the preference for thinking! I have one planet in water - Jupiter in Scorpio, my DSC ruler. I am attracted to Plutonian people. Plus I have both Jupiter and Pluto in my 5th house of attraction. If I had to associate planets (sign archetypes) with the ENFP personality type it would be Jupiter (sag), Uranus (aqua), sun (Leo).

As far as pattern completion in my chart goes, planets / points fm 5 - 20 degrees Aquarius will complete one of two potential kite patterns. Planets in orb of 9 degrees Virgo (approaching) conjunct my IC and completes a grand trine with my moon and Venus. Since I love scorpios so much... planets in range of 9 degrees Scorpio would make a kite out of that grand earth trine!

I think Im pretty balanced where it comes to modality. Maybe this is where the scale of E - I or N - S comes in?

Just some thoughts...

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posted October 14, 2016 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReachingForTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sag_stellium:
ENFP.

I can definitely see the extrovert in my chart. I have most of my planets in the top half of my chart.

I have a stellium in the 8th house (water) so maybe that gives me F?

But I have mercury, sun, saturn, uranus all conjunct. You'd think that'd make me a thinker. Sun and saturn are 1 degree apart! That should be grounds for being a J right?

Argument for perceiver: I have 4 planets in mutable signs and 3 planets in mutable houses.


Good point about most planets in the top half of your chart. Mine are mostly on the bottom half.

There is something about the 8th house, Pluto, and the sign of Scorpio about this personality type.

I can see how mutibility and P can be associated, the Uranus aspect too.

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Originally posted by Belba:
Apparently I'm ENFP.
At the moment I don't feel quite like it, but that's probably because I'm a bit stuck in a rut and unable to use my primary functions...

I am not that familiar with Myers-Briggs to really find the exact factors in my chart to contribute to it, but, some of the main placements:

- Sun Libra, 7H, square Uranus, Moon, trine Mars, sextile Chiron, trine ASC
- Moon Sag, 11H, square Venus, inconjunct Chiron
- Aqua ASC, square Pluto, Uranus in 11H conjunct Neptune
- Sag MC, conjunct BML
- Gem IC, conjunt Mars

It's funny how all my closest friends are INFP


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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
It's interesting. I feel like there are certain correlations between certain astro placements and MBTI types. But I don't feel like the two are that strongly related.

In reading the profiles, ENTP sounds exactly like Aquarius energy. But many Aquarius folks will not have the type. INFJ is very much like Scorpio. But again many people with Scorpio placements won't get that. Yet some will.

I think the difference between the two is that in astrology, your chart basically chooses you. You also choose how to deal with it, of course. But your birth info means that you basically play the hand you are dealt.

Myers Briggs, on the other hand, is highly mutable early in life. I don't feel like anyone is one type their whole life. You go through many different phases of being.But I think, by the time you reach your mid to late twenties and know yourself increasingly better, you eventually grow and settle into a type. This is also because the results are all dependent on a test with questions that are dependent on honest self awareness, which takes maturity to achieve. Then you get the type that sticks to you.

For instance, with me, I got quite a few different types over the years. I went from INFJ to opening up a lot more and feeling like an ENFJ to developing a more relaxed, carefree relationship with myself and attitude toward life that made me an ENFP (which I did get once before). This is the result I always get now and, at the ripe old age of 27 , I feel like it is the one that describes me the best. The other two were more so the version of myself when I was trying to live up to others' ideas or expectations of me. Now that I feel very free of that and very connected to my true self, no matter what others say, I know I'm ENFP.

I think the connection to my chart is that ENFP loves connecting with people and is a very spirited, lively presence in others' lives (Sun in the 7th in Leo) but also is actually the most introverted extrovert and likes a lot of alone time to reflect (12th House stellium). And that we can also be so multifaceted! So I think the thing that connects your chart to your MBTI type can be very random.


Interesting... you both have 7th house suns.

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posted October 15, 2016 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am also a INTJ also known as the "Architect." And we only account for 2-4% of the population, but I just saw two others on here mention they also have the same personality type.

I'm definitely a introvert, need my alone time to decompress and I really enjoy spending time by myself and with my cat.

Intuition as in we see the bigger picture verses the nitty gritty details.

My chart is mostly mutable, with a emphasis on the 8th H and 3rd H.

8th H definitely relates to intuition and always seeing beyond the external.

And having natal Pisces Moon in the 3rd gives the wateriness a more cerebral zing to it.

And thinking as in we use logic to make decisions - this is definitely true. I rationalize decisions and can creatively solve problems easily.

And J for "judging" as in we like to plan out our lives in more structure ways.

This definitely, again, goes with natal Saturn in the 1st house aspecting natal venus in gemini and Leo sun in the 8th H.

I am a planner and do lots of research.

And usually depending on the research I've done - will then make the next logistical step.

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posted October 15, 2016 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReachingForTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vertiver:
we only account for 2-4% of the population, but I just saw two others on here mention they also have the same personality type.

I am a planner and do lots of research.


It seems suspicious to be described as such a rare personality type but find so many in one place, right?! Here's some thoughts about that:
http://www.google.com/amp/thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2016/03/7-reasons-why-the-mbti-community-is-dominated-by-intuitives/amp/?client=safari

I'm a planner too, which can be pretty bothersome if I get too attached to my "vision". Lol. My therapist says I need to practice investment without attachment... what's the point then!!? Like, I get it, but it seems like such a disimpassioned concept. "Along for the ride" "All about the Journey" - I guess that's what those P types are here to teach us. Why can't I just know the destination? And, are we there yet?

I'm pretty balanced by modality, but my dominants are mutable: Sun/ASC/Mercury in Gemini (most exact aspect to this is a trine fm Saturn), Capricorn moon on the cusp of my 8th house (I consider it in the 7th).

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posted October 15, 2016 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGemV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ReachingForTheStars:
It seems suspicious to be described as such a rare personality type but find so many in one place, right?! Here's some thoughts about that:

As a complement.. I'm glad you can think for yourself and ask questions when things don't appear right.

Not like another thread that was started by an unnamed user that wants to trick everyone with his own political agenda.

Ever here the phrase "Every artist dreams of moving to Paris".

Well that's it, when you have people who think similarly they will generally concentrate together.

I can make the argument that very few people believe in astrology, but we all concentrated on this site.

But your right...2% seams a little to low.

INTJ's might make a low percentage of the population, but 2% seams questionable.

@vertiver. Hopefully you take it as a complement... You sound alot like the Engineer girls, the better ones

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posted October 16, 2016 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reachingforthestars - Interesting article, it makes sense to me.


DualGem - you and reachingforthestars are both Gem Suns, I'm not a Gem Sun - a Leo but have Mercury conjunct sun, I've read that tends to make the Sun sign more Gemini like. Plus I have Sag ASC w/ Jupiter in Gemini in the 6th H.

But my point is that Gemini is a very cerebral sign and the "thinking" portion part of the Myers-Briggs personality type relates. Not a very profund revelation, but hey.

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posted October 16, 2016 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGemV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vertiver:
Reachingforthestars - Interesting article, it makes sense to me.

DualGem - you and reachingforthestars are both Gem Suns, I'm not a Gem Sun - a Leo but have Mercury conjunct sun, I've read that tends to make the Sun sign more Gemini like. Plus I have Sag ASC w/ Jupiter in Gemini in the 6th H.


I think your onto something...

I have Gemini Mercury Conjunct Gemini Sun.
My niece has the same placement. The rest of the family always takes note of both of us when ever where both around, the highlighted gemini energy does get highlighted.

Shes very clever for a 5 yrs old.

@vertiver
I've read many of your other posts on LL and you do express yourself more Geminish then Leoish, or a combination of both energies.

Compared to lets say Lionenss and Lucia23 there always is some kind of drama in there posts or threads.

I've notices that with some users, just the way they communicate, write or what topics they discuss already gives away there chart energies.

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posted October 16, 2016 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunarRose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ReachingForTheStars:
It seems suspicious to be described as such a rare personality type but find so many in one place, right?! Here's some thoughts about that:
http://www.google.com/amp/thou ghtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2016/03/7-reasons-why-the-mbti-community-is-dominated-by-intuitives/amp/?client=safari




Yes, someone gets it! Thanks Reaching I'll have to check out that article.

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