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saadsarah8
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posted May 09, 2016 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for saadsarah8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 09, 2016 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't necessarily think there's a best Ascendant, but personally I would give this to Aries Ascendant. They are expressive, appear confident, and they're ready to go out into the world with whatever they've got! This ascendant is also at home in Aries.

The worst would be Scorpio Ascendant imo. I have a Scorpio Ascendant and my Mars literally screams in rage when the Scorpio in it wants to hide everything (Mars conjunct Asc in first).

Those are my thoughts at least
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posted May 09, 2016 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leo... Or Sag. Fire, at any rate (in my view Aries is a little too much, though).

Second (or third) best would be Taurus. So grounded and usually good-looking, ha.

(Naturally this is just personal opinion.)

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posted May 09, 2016 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i like mine,i like leo as asc . I mean yes i can have body image issues because i want physicall perfection,and my little ego does get hurt when i notice people are not in awe with my mere presence,but i am seen as creative,noble,shiny person,and loyalty and high morals are something i cherish. I like Leo asc and i am in darn good company.

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posted May 09, 2016 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it depends on the rest of the chart. Each Ascendant can be expressed positively and negatively so I don't think there's any real answer.

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posted May 09, 2016 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meyray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As there is no exaltation for houses/angles it pretty much comes down to personal preference.

If we have to follow astrology logic 1H = Aries, so "technically" it should be the answer with the second to best Ascendants being fire signs (trines) and air signs (sextiles). The difficult ones would be water and earth especially the cardinal signs (Cancer and Capricorn).

But this is circular reasoning. I don't think there is a best Ascendant or a best anything astrologically.

Personally I like air risings the most.

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posted May 09, 2016 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaGioconda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not saying that aries is the best ASC but I am very happy with it!! It's a great balance to my cap stellium

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posted May 09, 2016 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is exaltations for houses and angles. the best ascendant to have is fire or air.


Obviously Aries rules the first house so an ascendant in Fire is the best but Air would be good as well. Water or Earth Ascendant don't do well on a house ruled by Aries.

http://www.librarising.com/astrology/fwa/beautyplanets.html

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posted May 09, 2016 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lerena:
I think it depends on the rest of the chart. Each Ascendant can be expressed positively and negatively so I don't think there's any real answer.

I agree.

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posted May 09, 2016 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sag ascendant..

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posted May 09, 2016 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goddessinworld     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
libra for sure

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posted May 09, 2016 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is no "best Ascendant", but I'm sure we all have a favorite or favorites.

My favorite Ascendants are Aries, Taurus, Gemini, and Cancer. The first 4 zodiac signs represent their elements in such a primal way, I love it!

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I would say there is no "best" because certain aspects can make an ASC totally different than its sign.

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Maybe the one with Jupiter sextile from the 11th house, but not the one with Pluto on it and Saturn squaring it at the same time that Jupiter is sextile from the 11th.
Do you see my point?
What sign is on an ascendant cannot be viewed in a vacuum because it does not exist in a vacuum.
Cancer on the asc with moon in CAPRICORN is not the same as CANCER on the ascendant, moon in Capricorn and Saturn square the ascendant versus moon square or trine Pluto.
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posted May 09, 2016 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can't speak on ASC (at least not yet), but I will say I'm glad I don't have a Scorpio Mars. They have a real hard time letting go of past hurts, and I'd hate to be the kind of person who was unable to enjoy happiness today because I seethed over a lifetime of hurts and trauma (which would probably get me to react as a Scorpio Mars would be inclined to, especially in youth, which would add to the hurts and traumas as people reacted back).

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I know a lot of people may not favour this ascendant but I quite like my Virgo rising. It gives me a softer and earthier flavour that balances out my more fiery Leo sun. It gives me a more down to earth and practical side. But having earth Mars and Venus signs might contribute to that too. At least when meeting new people I don't come across as too "in your face". I'm quite gentle. The downside is becoming almost literally paralysed when having to make the first step when introducing myself.

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posted May 09, 2016 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Can't speak on ASC (at least not yet), but I will say I'm glad I don't have a Scorpio Mars. They have a real hard time letting go of past hurts, and I'd hate to be the kind of person who was unable to enjoy happiness today because I seethed over a lifetime of hurts and trauma (which would probably get me to react as a Scorpio Mars would be inclined to, especially in youth, which would add to the hurts and traumas as people reacted back).

As a Scorpio Mars I find it easy to let go of problems in the past. I don't agree with this at all.

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There's no such thing as 'best', only what you have as yours.

In astrological principle the best fits for the Ascendant to allow self-expression are fire ... Aries, which belongs naturally there, and Leo, since it its solar fire fits with 'self' and the underlying martial principle of the Asc.

But this does not make them 'best' since we're talking principles of accidental dignity and exaltation.

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posted May 09, 2016 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deptic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by diamondbaby:
There is no "best Ascendant", but I'm sure we all have a favorite or favorites.

My favorite Ascendants are Aries, Taurus, Gemini, and Cancer. The first 4 zodiac signs represent their elements in such a primal way, I love it!


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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Leo... Or Sag. Fire, at any rate (in my view Aries is a little too much, though).

Second (or third) best would be Taurus. So grounded and usually good-looking, ha.

(Naturally this is just personal opinion.)


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posted May 09, 2016 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
As a Scorpio Mars I find it easy to let go of problems in the past. I don't agree with this at all.


Thanks. I was starting to forget how arbitrary a lot of astrology is. For example, I've seen countless threads on the mind games men play on women, and they're identical, but we act as if it can be explained by astrology when obviously it's not astrology at work here (we can assume motivations based on their placements, but that doesn't mean the assumptions are true). I've also seen plenty describe their very common desires or affliction as if somehow unique to themselves, and it's given an explanation from their chart without regard to how common it is (that is for those without those placements).

I've read about how Scorpio Mars is vengeful, doesn't forget wrong, holds grudges, does "slow burns" and things like that, but since it's not true of you, then it's not true of anyone with a Scorpio Mars, regardless of aspects or houses. Astrology will need to be rewritten. (ETA: I should stop giving a Scorpio Mars close to me a free pass for holding grudges and acting out since she no longer has that as an excuse, and I don't let others get away with that. She doesn't even believe in astrology anyway.)

Or actually, it's just that astrology matters a lot less than people think...assuming it isn't a bunch of confirmation bias in the first place.

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posted May 09, 2016 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not Libra. Im a Libra ASC and i hate it. I'm not even conventially good looking to begin with, and this ASC makes me soft and vain.

I wish i was a Aries asc or Sag asc. Ugh, if only i could've waited 3 more hours in my mother's womb.

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posted May 09, 2016 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieJane:
Thanks. I was starting to forget how arbitrary a lot of astrology is. For example, I've seen countless threads on the mind games men play on women, and they're identical, but we act as if it can be explained by astrology when obviously it's not astrology at work here (we can assume motivations based on their placements, but that doesn't mean the assumptions are true). I've also seen plenty describe their very common desires or affliction as if somehow unique to themselves, and it's given an explanation from their chart without regard to how common it is (that is for those without those placements).

I've read about how Scorpio Mars is vengeful, doesn't forget wrong, holds grudges, does "slow burns" and things like that, but since it's not true of you, then it's not true of anyone with a Scorpio Mars, regardless of aspects or houses. Astrology will need to be rewritten. (ETA: I should stop giving a Scorpio Mars close to me a free pass for holding grudges and acting out since she no longer has that as an excuse, and I don't let others get away with that. She doesn't even believe in astrology anyway.)

Or actually, it's just that astrology matters a lot less than people think...assuming it isn't a bunch of confirmation bias in the first place.


I see your point. Personally, I like to see astrology as a basis for learning about one's self if they are in need of such knowledge. While certain placements are tainted with a certain description of how it should be, there are so many outer forces that are acting upon it that a simple generalization of the placement itself is simply not enough to gain insight.

Of course, one couldn't possibly use astrology to determine whether a person is good or bad, but they could use it to get an idea of the person at hand. There are many explanations as to why I don't typically agree with the Mars in Scorpio archetype, and one of those could be due to the Arian influence my Mars has (in first conjunct Asc). It only makes things more technical and deep when upholding the fact that astrology is not simply black and white.

With my Scorpio Mars and 8th house Moon opposite Pluto, I should be holding grudges till the end of time. However, I can't hold a grudge for more than half a day before feeling bad and wanting to move on from it. In fact, I resonate strongly with the Aries Mars archetype more so than the Scorpio Mars archetype, simply because the idea that Scorpio Mars is supposed to be behind the scenes, manipulative, dastardly, is disturbing to me as a MiS. I don't like behind the scenes work when I'm angry with someone.

Saying this though, I believe that the best way to determine someone through their natal chart is to interpret it on several levels before coming to a conclusion. I have a Scorpio Mars, but the fact that it is in the first, conjunct the ascendant, in the Aries dwad, makes it all the more Arian. There is so much that we can do with astrology; we just have to learn how to wield it.

That's me rambling though

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posted May 10, 2016 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The "best" Ascendant would be the Ascendant that helps you to actualize the intent of your soul.

The Asc is what the world perceives of you, based on what you perceive of the world(7th).

So as a Libra/Scor Dsc person myself,I often feel that I am little understood (Scorpio).

Or that the likelihood of finding someone to partner up with me or have my back(Libra), is minimal.

So I project that I don't need anyone and am self-sufficient(Taurus Asc). That I fly solo(Aries Asc) and am fine being alone.

Now having a Sun on the Sag/Cap cusp, suggests that romance(Libra) and merging with others(Scorpio)is not my top priority.

My focus is on my freedom (Sag)and self-responsibility(Cap). And I guess that goes well with my Asc.

I don't think that I will ever get married or find another to "complete" me. I am too self-focused to love another like that

I always gravitate towards people that will be independent of me. Those that I feel will be fine when I decide to leave.

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posted May 10, 2016 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bonsai:
I know a lot of people may not favour this ascendant but I quite like my Virgo rising. It gives me a softer and earthier flavour that balances out my more fiery Leo sun. It gives me a more down to earth and practical side. But having earth Mars and Venus signs might contribute to that too. At least when meeting new people I don't come across as too "in your face". I'm quite gentle. The downside is becoming almost literally paralysed when having to make the first step when introducing myself.

Are you kidding? We rock!! We are practical (thinkers), care about our health, most likely are slender (vegetarian/vegan) and are good looking. We are attentive, considered and efficient. I am lucky my Saturn trines my Ascendant too.

I wouldn't want any other Ascendant. And yes Aries23Degrees said it, the intent of your soul.

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posted May 10, 2016 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries rising, because your sun is naturally where it's supposed to be

Plus the natural home life/public life too.

Of course, what each of us likes is very much subjective ...

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