posted May 12, 2016 05:35 PM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
Thansits dont make things happen in a certain way. they activate energies and these energies can take any way depending how the person is managing his-her own chart. I do not believe that people go crazy killing people or cheating or falling for taken men because there is a transit.. then astrology is very fatalistic and with that type of astrology I have nothing to do... then everybody would be justified in their bevahior..

POLICE. WHY did you kill this man..
TRANSIT VICTIM. sorry pluto transit square my mars and i had to kill him.. it was too much for me to handle..

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posted May 12, 2016 05:48 PM            

There was this guy who I knew since 2010...we worked at the same place, but not in the same department. We became friends, but there a mutual attraction between us. He was married with a pre-teen child. Soon after our friendship blossomed, I transferred sites. We kept in touch via email. We have always teased each other back and forth about being together and telling each other our true feelings, but I always, always, thought in the back of my mind that he would never leave his wife for me.

Yesterday, after a few days of heavy communication, I stated where all this was going. He froze for a minute and finally came out and how much of a bad liar he is (if he should ever have an affair), and how he couldn't do this to his family and such, but he had deep feelings for me. He made it sound like I was desperate and I was "passing up" men in hopes to be with him. I was appalled. I sent him a very honest email about the conversation and I did not mince words, I stated to him that I was FULLY AWARE he would never leave his wife for me, and that I would never take away what he has, but... he couldn't take what I had from me, even though it's not much, it's something. He apologized this morning about being selfish and inconsiderate. He even admitted there is some discord in his marriage. I washed my hands of it.

Like I said, he has not been the only married man to make a play for me and no ways am I bragging or boasting, it's embarrassing to even admit, but I wanted to come here on Lindaland because I needed to get it off my chest.

posted May 12, 2016 06:00 PM            

I think it's because Jupiter is in its detriment in Virgo, so the goodies it brings leave a lot to be desired. especially during the time it makes a first direct pass, then goes retro. Keep in mind that Jupiter is still Jupiter, so when it turns direct for good, I expect a better crop of men, or at least one damn suitable man to show up.

posted May 12, 2016 06:14 PM            

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Originally posted by bella_taurus:
In conjunction with my first message:

There was this guy who I knew since 2010...we worked at the same place, but not in the same department. We became friends, but there a mutual attraction between us. He was married with a pre-teen child. Soon after our friendship blossomed, I transferred sites. We kept in touch via email. We have always teased each other back and forth about being together and telling each other our true feelings, but I always, always, thought in the back of my mind that he would never leave his wife for me.

Yesterday, after a few days of heavy communication, I stated where all this was going. He froze for a minute and finally came out and how much of a bad liar he is (if he should ever have an affair), and how he couldn't do this to his family and such, but he had deep feelings for me. He made it sound like I was desperate and I was "passing up" men in hopes to be with him. I was appalled. I sent him a very honest email about the conversation and I did not mince words, I stated to him that I was FULLY AWARE he would never leave his wife for me, and that I would never take away what he has, but... he couldn't take what I had from me, even though it's not much, it's something. He apologized this morning about being selfish and inconsiderate. He even admitted there is some discord in his marriage. I washed my hands of it.

Like I said, he has not been the only married man to make a play for me and no ways am I bragging or boasting, it's embarrassing to even admit, but I wanted to come here on Lindaland because I needed to get it off my chest.

Seems like its all fun and games until the actions come into play and it's "Oh, I love my wife and kids" speech. I CANNOT wait until this Venus square Saturn transits takes the highroad for a while.

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posted May 13, 2016 04:28 AM            

after your explanation now I understand what you meant with attracting married man. I dont know but I guess this happen to all.

I was working in a male dominant company and all of a sudden I felt the vibe of 4 men (all married) being attracted to me. I was attracted to 3 of them but I never act on the attraction or flirt. Probably because i have a sister who always dated married men so I do know that always end badly. So, I do not act on the attraction. but it is normal to be attracted to people, even sometimes when I was the married one I felt attracted to other men. I guess is what we do with the attraction. do we start feeding fantasies in our mind and then make it easy to quit?

VJARA: I can see that a transit may have been activating certain energies and I am not saying that transits do not influence... but the same transit may have had a different result with a different person or even you with another grasp of your own chart. I am not implying that you were trying to attract these men or that disgusting old guy was something you wanted in any way.. but we need to also look as how we unconsciouly bring certain experiences to our lives. can it be that Neptune-venus was activating the need to learn to set boundaries? when a transit comes, they trigger things that are slept! it does not mean there was not a problem with limits before but the transit bring this to awareness, normally by projection. and projection is not CONSCIOUS, so it does not matter if you wanted "consciously" these situations, but a part of you "needed" to set boundaries in relationships and then all these men came all at once to test you...

I buy completelty Carl Jung approach that when when a situation is not made conscious it comes as fate... below the quote

he psychological rule says that when an inner situation is not made conscious, it happens outside, as fate. That is to say, when the individual remains undivided and does not become conscious of his inner opposite, the world must perforce act out the conflict and be torn into opposing halves.

posted May 13, 2016 11:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Bella Taurus, I too am going through a 7th house Jupiter transit and I too am attracting married/taken men.

I think it's because Jupiter is in its detriment in Virgo, so the goodies it brings leave a lot to be desired. especially during the time it makes a first direct pass, then goes retro. Keep in mind that Jupiter is still Jupiter, so when it turns direct for good, I expect a better crop of men, or at least one damn suitable man to show up.

If it doesn't, I give up. I effing give up.

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This is interesting, because I have Jupiter in Virgo per my birth chart. I wonder why I'm going through such a fit with men lately.

posted May 13, 2016 11:19 AM            

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Originally posted by bella_taurus:
This is interesting, because I have Jupiter in Virgo per my birth chart. I wonder why I'm going through such a fit with men lately.

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So at some point in the near future, you are going to experience a Jupiter return in your 7th house. Even though in detriment, Jupiter can still produce wonderful gifts though I am hoping your natal jupiter is not currently opposed by Neptune and Squared by Saturn because it might nullify the goodies.

posted May 13, 2016 11:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
nordicsoul,
yes, I'm of course aware of the Jungian shadow concept, but in my case it fails to explain properly why during altogether 25 years of dating, all these crazy occurrences should be clustered within the same 2 years timeframe, as it's not a problem I usually have. This wouldn't be the case if it was only caused by some shadow aspect of myself. And, I also changed jobs during that time, so these things happened at various locations, not all at the same place, and those people all don't know each other. I changed neither my looks nor my hairstyle nor my behavior before or after, and as I said, I'm usually seen as rather standoffish by guys and don't ever flirt. Neither was I physically attracted to any of those people, they were not "my type," so it was a completely one-sided attraction on their part. To me it seemed that they were the ones projecting something onto me, whereas I wouldn't have noticed them so much, had it not been for that weird obsessive behavior that brought them to my attention in the first place.

So the symbolism of transiting Neptune opp. nVenus (R7) does seem to fit rather well with my experience. By the way, my nVenus is in late Leo and several of those guys (especially the most obnoxious ones who wouldn't take no for an answer) have their Moon in Leo - so that would mean they were perhaps undergoing a tNeptune opp. Moon experience during the same time.

So my guess is this was partly synastric and partly transit-induced. It sure was somewhat interesting to see new aspects of human nature exposed through this experience, but then I don't care to see even more of this behavior first hand yet again, and so far haven't.

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is mercury still retrograde? I finding that everything I said is understood differently from what I want to communicate.. lets see If i can make myself clearer

1. transit counts a lot. otherwise, who would care about transits if not? my point is that transits are trigger points. if for example neptune is transiting your venus it is activating merging, beatification, refining, lack of boundaries and all that neptune activates... if you have venus in Virgo trine saturn and feel at home with these energies, I doubt you have too much trouble with boundaries. actually the transit rather than pointing out toward lack of boundaries becomes an opportunity to be less rigid and restrictive in relationship and allow some room for a little mistery and unplanned things... that would be totally different with someone with the same placement but not at home with the energy...or someone with a neptunian chart. transit are trigger points for whatever is unworked in the chart and if someone is so "evolved" to have worked all his-her chart before a transit hit, it would be only the highest manifestation of the planet that would be experienced

so.. whatever everyone else is projecting onto you is "their problem" until it becomes "your problem" if you bring some circumstances to your life it is your problem, no matter the transits of these people...

and with regard the shadow, then, we cannot be choosy about which experiences are part of the shadow and which are "random" events. if we buy into the concept, we know that even if we dont see the connection, our shadow is at work when we bring certain experiences...

I have heard many people saying "i attract agressive people and I dont know why" after thorough observation of these people I have noticed why.. not entering into that topic now..

posted May 13, 2016 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
So at some point in the near future, you are going to experience a Jupiter return in your 7th house. Even though in detriment, Jupiter can still produce wonderful gifts though I am hoping your natal jupiter is not currently opposed by Neptune and Squared by Saturn because it might nullify the goodies.

Just do not engage the unavailable/taken men who come to you so that you can make space for the available ones.

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posted May 13, 2016 01:06 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I don't think it's about attracting married men, we all do, it is about learning to say no to them from the beginning. And Jupiter in the 7th acts like a teacher for that.

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Truth!!!

posted May 13, 2016 03:18 PM            

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Originally posted by bella_taurus:
In conjunction with my first message:

There was this guy who I knew since 2010...we worked at the same place, but not in the same department. We became friends, but there a mutual attraction between us. He was married with a pre-teen child. Soon after our friendship blossomed, I transferred sites. We kept in touch via email. We have always teased each other back and forth about being together and telling each other our true feelings, but I always, always, thought in the back of my mind that he would never leave his wife for me.

Yesterday, after a few days of heavy communication, I stated where all this was going. He froze for a minute and finally came out and how much of a bad liar he is (if he should ever have an affair), and how he couldn't do this to his family and such, but he had deep feelings for me. He made it sound like I was desperate and I was "passing up" men in hopes to be with him. I was appalled. I sent him a very honest email about the conversation and I did not mince words, I stated to him that I was FULLY AWARE he would never leave his wife for me, and that I would never take away what he has, but... he couldn't take what I had from me, even though it's not much, it's something. He apologized this morning about being selfish and inconsiderate. He even admitted there is some discord in his marriage. I washed my hands of it.

Like I said, he has not been the only married man to make a play for me and no ways am I bragging or boasting, it's embarrassing to even admit, but I wanted to come here on Lindaland because I needed to get it off my chest.

Seems like its all fun and games until the actions come into play and it's "Oh, I love my wife and kids" speech. I CANNOT wait until this Venus square Saturn transits takes the highroad for a while.

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The reality is that I could meet a guy right now whom I am more attracted to physically and romantically than my husband and maybe more compatible with even and I will flirt with him probably and fantasize about him and get a crush on him briefly even but he has no chance at all of me breaking up with my husband for him and I don't even have kids with him bc we have too much history, I am extremely loyal and I do love him and could never break his heart and last we have come such a long way together.

My point is its annoying yes but the 'I love my wife and kids speech' is honest, they are just feeling tempted as for some people is hard to not get curious about anybody else for 60 years straight and feeling curious does not change you love your wife, there is a lot of history there.

posted May 13, 2016 03:54 PM            

You are always so clear with your messages. I wonder what are your mercury aspects.

posted May 13, 2016 04:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Isa:
Excuse my question, but for how long did you guys dated?

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posted May 13, 2016 04:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
nordicsoul -

I'm afraid I don't quite follow you in this regard: In what way does someone "bring certain circumstances into one's own life" if they do nothing towards another person except for peacefully minding their own business at work, up until some guy they hardly know suddenly intrudes into their space uninvited and makes sexual advances towards them out of the blue, even though he's married with children, and all this after receiving no kind of encouragement whatsoever?
Maybe the woman happens to be the only acceptable female "target" in the vicinity - a case of simply being at the wrong place at the wrong time? Or, there may be systemic sexism in that particular environment, where women of a certain age are automatically seen as sexual objects? There are many possibilities besides this having anything to do with the particular woman bringing this upon herself subconsciously.

My first impulse would not be to look for the cause of this behavior in the person on the receiving end, or in their "shadow", but to wonder what the hell is wrong with such a guy.

Besides, that shadow theory is of course one possible explanation, if one buys it... and if one doesn't, one might come up with countless others, such as, past-life karma causing people to cross paths in such a way, or a religious person might even wonder whether they're being tested by the devil.

As for me, I'm not interested in any such speculative theories as such, and merely try to observe whatever happens at any given time, and then try to figure out how to best respond to it - which I did in that situation as well, when it was necessary, and the problem ended, after a period of adjustment, with the desired results. Also, this was only a small part of my social life at the time, and by no means the most important aspect of it, but nevertheless unusual enough to remember which is why I brought it up in response to the OP's questions.

Others had mentioned Jupiter transits, so I pointed at the possibility of a Neptune influence because that was the only notable transit I had at that time, to add to the topic. It was certainly not posted to complain about being subjected to such undesirable attentions constantly, as my experience was indeed limited to a relatively clearly defined phase. However, I'm also pretty sure (rather, I know for a fact) that I wasn't alone in being targeted by these particular men, who seem to keep doing this thing with many other women until today.

What I also came to find very curious ever since that time is the vehemence with which many women I know in real life, who are with constantly unfaithful men they never leave despite the cheating, always manage to blame other women for their philandering husbands' misbehavior towards them, even if that behavior disgusts those other women as much as it disgusted me, and if they turned the guy down. Somehow they are blamed for even existing, it seems... while the dude is painted as being just too weak to control himself, like an underage person or something. Talk about not confronting reality....

Maybe, that was even the most important take-away lesson from that period on my part - becoming less jugdmental towards people (women and men) who supposedly "lure" someone else into cheating, and assigning the responsibility for such cheating behavior to where it belongs - the person actually committing the act. In that way, that personal experience changed my perspective and made me more aware of this very common problem of s-l-u-t-shaming.

Well, that's it from my part, as I felt the need to clarify as well. You may indeed blame MercRx (which will stay with us for more than a week still) if I misunderstood you yet again, if you want.

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People are entitled to believe whatever suits their mentality. FREE WORLD!!!I do buy into the shadow concept and for me it works perfectly because it allows me to focus on the myself rather than blaming others for whatever happens to me. However, I would not say that in court if a rapist rape a woman. I would stand for the right of that woman (unless she said explicitly yes and there is evidence for that)...

but in theses "spiritual realm" of astrology I prefer to see things in a larger scheme and look how a person may be "colluding" with something.