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Queen Salome
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posted May 18, 2016 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Queen Salome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Referendum will be held on June 23. http://www.astrowikia.com/2016/03/horoscope-forecast-june-23-2016-uks-eu.html
UK natal chart http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/United_Kingdom
What do you think?

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Lilithsquared
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posted May 18, 2016 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lilithsquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone be bothered to post a natal chart for the European Union? And the composite?

They're not exactly people though xD

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Queen Salome
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posted May 19, 2016 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Queen Salome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm really not sure which chart to put, I found different information on different sites. Besides, I have always used Tinypics, but it sucks recently.
On this page there are some charts related to this topic http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9084&highlight=brexit

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Queen Salome
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posted May 20, 2016 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Queen Salome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone? If it happens, it will probably be event of the year-is it possible that no one is interested?

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venus2tinkerbell
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posted May 20, 2016 10:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Queen Salome:
http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9084&highlight=brexit

Wow, the reading is good at that site. I'm sorry I can't contribute, but I am interested, so *bump*

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outofideas
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posted May 21, 2016 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for outofideas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Without looking at the Astrology of it, i think the UK will leave the EU and eventually their currency might grow even stronger.
As for the EU i think it will slowly start to fall apart, and some new economical crisis might emerge in late summer as a result.

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nordicsoul
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posted May 21, 2016 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i dont need to see any chart to know it is not going to happen..

this is just bla bla bla since the big fuzz around it started some years ago...

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FruityLlama
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posted May 21, 2016 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We will probably stay to be honest, no one likes change too much. My friend pointed out that there's no reason to leave because if we're doing fine with or without it whats the point in leaving. Plus we're a small country who aren't great anymore, probably need to hang onto the band wagon.

I have no idea if this is true. I only want to stay because I am dating a foreigner. As to whether we would be good or not without the EU, I have no idea because who really knows what the details are. Each newspaper says something different so anyway. Plus, I think the EU is damaging central Europe more. My boyfriend was saying how stupid it is for Merkel to be in charge of his country's money, especially as they could do with the independence to sort out their problems.

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pire
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posted May 21, 2016 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First let me say I love England...

In the natal chart for the UK you posted, my sun is conjnct venus. (That is to keep the topic astrological )

(Politically speaking ) I think the british people will vote against remaining in EU. And they will leave the EU

Looking back from a future point of view, if this is what happens, Greece will have stayed in EU but not the UK... This will say a lot, EU is not simply an adition of GDP, but also a collective vision .
I think a small group of countries will use this opportunity to move quicker towards a sort of federal EU.
Not like the US because Europe is historically different but a small group may wants to get closer in some aspects (defense, taxes...) while leaving the rest that either don't want or that can't, outside of this small group.

A sort of europe with 2 circles, one closer within a wider one.

I love Britain, God knows how much I love and respect Britain, but they didn't catch that this time Europe is ok with letting them go, because they blocked a closer integration of the EU.

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Hemilla
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posted May 22, 2016 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that they will stay because even though this is referendum and all, i know a thing or two about how world of politics functions in reality and if politicians and major heads in Brit want to stay they will stay - peoples voices are only really heard on protests - they (politicians) can fake the votes anytime to their advantage,belive me. Also didnt Queen E. just recently support Britain to stay in Europe,i guess it was a hint to us all with will or wont they.

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venus2tinkerbell
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posted June 24, 2016 10:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump

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Queen Salome
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posted June 24, 2016 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Queen Salome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most astrological predictions I have seen said that UK will vote to leave EU. And they were right. This is one of the reasons I love astrology.

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diamondbaby
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posted June 24, 2016 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a sad day. 😢🇪🇺

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athenaia
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posted June 24, 2016 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone HAS to post Scotland and England's natal chart, those are some transits I'd love to take a gander at..

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Novabronte
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posted June 24, 2016 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just had a quick look at Cameron's transits and he has:
T Chiron on Saturn in 6th square MC
T Saturn now retro conjunct his POF in 3H and opposing Nessus on Aldebaran in 9th
T Pluto squaring his Sun in 1st
Also t Sun conjunct his MC
And it is his Chiron Return 2s

That Chiron Saturn clash squaring MC indicates a rather painful public breakup, and Pluto just dimmed his light in the 1st

This is a Chiron return that will stick in mind..


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Sikanda
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posted June 24, 2016 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sikanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I say they should remain in the UK, but it's their decision. Here in Spain let's see what happens with Gibraltar.

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DualGem
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posted June 24, 2016 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love this post, why?

History = Facts
Astrology = Pseudoscience

Both go hand in hand to complement each other and prove the same thing.

Historically, GB has also felt as an "Island" compared to the rest of Europe. Even construction of the Channel Tunnel was a hard sell. It was almost hard to convince GB to join euro in the first place, so leaving would be a no brainier.

Astrologically many on the site have said it was in the cards.

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Originally posted by Novabronte:
I just had a quick look at Cameron's transits and he has:
T Chiron on Saturn in 6th square MC
T Saturn now retro conjunct his POF in 3H and opposing Nessus on Aldebaran in 9th
T Pluto squaring his Sun in 1st
Also t Sun conjunct his MC
And it is his Chiron Return 2s

That Chiron Saturn clash squaring MC indicates a rather painful public breakup, and Pluto just dimmed his light in the 1st

This is a Chiron return that will stick in mind..


I'm interested in what else lies for Cameron, after his resignation.

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Gemini Sun,
Capricorn Rising
Aries Moon
Gemini Mercury
Venus Taurus
Mars Cancer

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hypatia238
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posted June 24, 2016 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yayyyy the British left the EU, good for them!!

Add:
http://www.againstcronycapitalism.org/2016/06/topic-of-the-day-britain-votes-for-brexit-video/

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florence
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posted June 24, 2016 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
Yayyyy the British left the EU, good for them!!

Add:
http://www.againstcronycapitalism.org/2016/06/topic-of-the-day-britain-votes-for -brexit-video/


i voted for remain and am left leaning. This is where the referendum was interesting ...

basically, as the conservatives came into govt there was anger about immigration, fuelled very much by the recession - ukip and the Conservative party linking the two to stir up anger.

Once the conservatives were in government they used the recession, imo, to impose heavy cuts to the state which served their agenda. This was a terrible decision leading to a double-dip recession. It basically recovered at the same pace as a recession with no intervention.

Ukips animosity towards immigration was in the conservative party's favour as it created this link between austerity and immigration when in fact austerity only hit the poor and the conservatives wanted to dismantle the nhs so they could privatise, many having affiliations with private healthcare providers.

At the last election, Cameron, having ridden this animosity, for his own benefit offered up a referendum to secure a further govt and then back pedalled. This govt has butchered the economy from the working class and state outwards and 'solid' industries like construction are on their knees as a result. It's not a good business decision to opt out when there's this shell of an economy. I don't even think the extent will be apparent for some time (the debt apparently invoking austerity has increased too.)

This is why the Scottish (labour, left-wing, anti-capitalism etc) voted to remain

The opt out is not based on anti-cronyism although it will possibly superficialyl affect it - or if there's an element of that its a mistake because the people will suffer before they do. The opt out is based on poverty .. (And not just on the micro level but of industry) .. Which has been aligned, falsely with immigration.

UKIP who have pushed for the opt out portray being for the people but are in fact bank-rolled by the rich. Not only would they not feed money into the nhs, they want to privatise it, for their benefit. They are also racist, IMO.

As for Cameron, he will be fine - probably get a city job with a million pound check

Tl;dr a lot of scapegoating

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Lilithsquared
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posted June 24, 2016 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lilithsquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geriatrics f**king over the future for their children and grandchildren. Good luck... They're going to need it.

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Randall
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posted June 25, 2016 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The UK wanted their autonomy back. I don't blame them.

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VirgoPILL
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posted June 25, 2016 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPILL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im absolutely devasteted my second home, my beloved UK

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Ceridwen
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posted June 25, 2016 07:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will this really bring autonomy? I am not so sure.

Imo the EU - as its idealized version on paper- is not even existent.


The Brexit iself however might bring most problems to Great Britain itself, making very visible the rift throughout the country.

For the EU, it is a chance (that noone will take probably) to reevaluate what they really ARE or want to be, and tell it like it is, and not cling to some romanticized fairytale about their own identity and purpose.

EDIT
next thing that probably will happen is Scotland repeating the referendum about their independence - and this time it might tip the scale.

(Wales will possibly remain with the UK, Northern Ireland I am not sure around the current time, but possibly, too).

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Orange
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posted June 25, 2016 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Eastern block didnt work out and dissolute after a few decades. Now the Western block did the same thing - created another block after viciously attacking the Eastern block for being a separate isolated entity for years, but apparently the new block has started to experience difficulties even sooner.
Those things only work as ideology, on paper.

There are other countries that are not in the EU - Swiss and Norway are not in the union but doing just fine.

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VirgoPILL
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posted June 25, 2016 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPILL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
[B]However personally I would like to throw out some other members of the EU and in fact make a total re-modeling of the EU itself.

[B]


for instance who? and how would you re-model europe?

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