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Topic: Uncomfortable with being female
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Queen Salome Knowflake Posts: 609 From: Sirius Registered: Jul 2013
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posted May 22, 2016 09:12 PM
I feel punished by being born as a female. There are many reasons, including fact that the best chances for success woman has as a prostitute or goldigger, which my Venus Virgo really dislikes. I'm especially annoyed by the fact that majority of the women I can see in media are brainless creatures showing off their fake a** or t***, which sends really "nice" message to girls around the world-your brain is worth nothing, your **** everything. I'm especially disturbed lately, because I feel regression of women's rights on social and political level. Safety is another factor. I feel very unsafe ever *that* happened in Cologne. I think that things will never change and that women will always suffer, on one or another way. I also have to add that cultures where women are treated in a *different* way (not to be politically incorrect) seems to have highest population growth and are spreading their influence. As a history student, it made me wonder-Was giving all this human rights to women a historical mistake? Do you think this is something astrological or it is just self-hate? *Do not quote* IP: Logged |
Electro DGX Knowflake Posts: 746 From: Another Galaxy Registered: Jul 2015
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posted May 22, 2016 09:24 PM
I think the issue here is that you cannot bear being born as the person you are, seeing other people who are supposed to be like you screwing everything up. These ludicrous mistakes that they make probably makes you feel as if people in general will view you in the same way, which you dislike greatly and wish to get away from, hence why you're uncomfortable as a female. I can relate...in a way. I am personally homosexual, but the way other homosexual people act completely disgusts me. The female personality they wear, the problems made over ridiculous issues, stereotypes; it makes me disgusted that I have to be surrounded by these people. In fact, I often wish that I never was this way because I hate being generalized in such a way, since I highly identify with masculine energy and my personal expression of feminine energy can upset me. I think the only solution out of this is to believe in yourself and the idea that you're better than what others make it out to be. Be confident and prove that you're not the same, and go out there and show them all!! ------------------ Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, Neptune Scorpio Mars conj. Asc in First 8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine Uranus Have you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet? IP: Logged |
cchampliss2 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted May 22, 2016 09:24 PM
How old are you? Just curious. IP: Logged |
Pisces Plutonian Knowflake Posts: 93 From: United States Registered: Jan 2016
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posted May 22, 2016 09:25 PM
I get what you mean. The world is just a terrible place to be if you're not a heterosexual man. I wouldn't say it's astrological, but I wouldn't call it self hate, either. I'd call it realism. The truth is, life isn't all what it should be, we just have to make the most out of what we have. IP: Logged |
cchampliss2 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted May 22, 2016 09:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Electro DGX:
In fact, I often wish that I never was this way because I hate being generalized in such a way, since I highly identify with masculine energy and my personal expression of feminine energy can upset me.
It's somehow rooted in your brain that expressing feminine energy is seen to be regressive, submissive, and weak. You despise being seen as such. I'm not sure how your astrology plays into that but that's an influence of your society and/or upbringing. IP: Logged |
Electro DGX Knowflake Posts: 746 From: Another Galaxy Registered: Jul 2015
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posted May 22, 2016 09:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by cchampliss2: It's somehow rooted in your brain that expressing feminine energy is seen to be regressive, submissive, and weak. You despise being seen as such. I'm not sure how your astrology plays into that but that's an influence of your society and/or upbringing.
It may be because of my dad's strong conservatism and huge disgust for gays. Furthermore, he constantly plays jokes as being a disgusting gay person, which has somehow rooted it into my brain. Astrologically though I'm giving this to my Mars-Saturn opposition. If I'm more manly, I feel more comfortable. ------------------ Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, Neptune Scorpio Mars conj. Asc in First 8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine Uranus Have you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet? IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 4809 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 22, 2016 09:39 PM
I love being a woman. We are superior in so many ways. Anything a man can do, well so can I with the exception of physical strength and I carry a little equalizer in my purse just in case. Other than that, it doesn't bother me at all to (lightly) stroke a man's ego so that he feels like the leader and the one who came up with my great idea. Part of my power is they'll never know. I don't need validation. Sun/Aries Asc./Sag ------------------ Don't look back, you're not going that way. IP: Logged |
diamondbaby Knowflake Posts: 636 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted May 22, 2016 09:40 PM
I love being a woman. I live my life my own way, I have a loving husband, family, friends who I care for and they care for me. I love the career I have chosen. I'm grateful for the little things in life, I focus on my goals and I keep a positive mindset. Sun in Sagittarius Moon in Leo Ascendant in Leo IP: Logged |
cchampliss2 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted May 22, 2016 09:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by Electro DGX: It may be because of my dad's strong conservatism and huge disgust for gays. Furthermore, he constantly plays jokes as being a disgusting gay person, which has somehow rooted it into my brain. Astrologically though I'm giving this to my Mars-Saturn opposition. If I'm more manly, I feel more comfortable.
Dads, they don't know how much their joking and teasing can affect their children. I hope that someday you can express whatever energies you feel in terms of your sex, sexuality, gender expression, etc with more authenticity, acceptance, and tolerance. Eff everything else, just be cool with yourself because what you don't hate in yourself, you won't hate in others. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1704 From: the baseball hall of fame Registered: Nov 2014
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posted May 22, 2016 09:43 PM
I know you're not serious about the whole prostitute gold digger thing, but I get you. I don't think it's self hate thing at all. To a young woman the endless abuses of women might make it seem like the world hates her Being born a woman abandoned by my father, torn between two cultures, I've definitely struggled with my place in the world and what I need to do to be comfortable in my skin. I've experimented and crushed my own heart many times. I've also accepted the challenge to love and fight, to see the advantages others have over me as an opportunity to excel and succeed. But as me, as my weak or strong (depending on the situation), frightened or unphased self. If you don't like how people define "what" you are, you can be yourself and offer up a new definition. That is thrilling. IP: Logged |
Queen Salome Knowflake Posts: 609 From: Sirius Registered: Jul 2013
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posted May 22, 2016 09:43 PM
Electro DGX Unfortunaly, many act that way because it works. Men will pay so much for female p**** and zero for female heart. Then they will complain how all women are nothing but goldiggers. It probably have roots in human biology, so I doubt it will ever change. cchampliss2 I'm 24 years old. IP: Logged |
diamondbaby Knowflake Posts: 636 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted May 22, 2016 09:47 PM
I'm 25 years old and I can understand how you feel but trust me not ALL men are like that. I got married almost 2 years ago and I couldn't be happier. I had to move halfway across the world (from Europe to the U.S.) to be with my love though. Good guys exist, you just have to look!
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cchampliss2 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted May 22, 2016 09:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Queen Salome: It probably have roots in human biology, so I doubt it will ever change.
Roots in human biology? What and where are you getting these ideas? You might want to brush up on some social/biological/cultural anthropology courses along with the history major and be able to discern between them. Make sure you study it from a non-heteronormative, patriarchal lens. That might provide some hope.
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Electro DGX Knowflake Posts: 746 From: Another Galaxy Registered: Jul 2015
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posted May 22, 2016 09:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Queen Salome: Electro DGX Unfortunaly, many act that way because it works. Men will pay so much for female p**** and zero for female heart. Then they will complain how all women are nothing but goldiggers. It probably have roots in human biology, so I doubt it will ever change. cchampliss2 I'm 24 years old.
This is where you must have faith that one day, you will find the man that thinks differently and sees you as who you are, not as a tool or some idiot they saw on TV. It will come with time... ------------------ Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, Neptune Scorpio Mars conj. Asc in First 8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine Uranus Have you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet? IP: Logged |
Pisces Plutonian Knowflake Posts: 93 From: United States Registered: Jan 2016
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posted May 22, 2016 10:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Electro DGX: I think the issue here is that you cannot bear being born as the person you are, seeing other people who are supposed to be like you screwing everything up. These ludicrous mistakes that they make probably makes you feel as if people in general will view you in the same way, which you dislike greatly and wish to get away from, hence why you're uncomfortable as a female. I can relate...in a way. I am personally homosexual, but the way other homosexual people act completely disgusts me. The female personality they wear, the problems made over ridiculous issues, stereotypes; it makes me disgusted that I have to be surrounded by these people. In fact, I often wish that I never was this way because I hate being generalized in such a way, since I highly identify with masculine energy and my personal expression of feminine energy can upset me.
Electro, I get what you mean I'm homosexual too, but I wouldn't call the more feminine gays, "mistakes". People don't just bully gay men because they believe all of us act like women, it's because they also think that we're weaker than other men, or we all want them. If anything, we need more feminine gays in the spotlight because when people finally accept them and understand that they're just like everyone else, more masculine gays will have it even easier as opposed to people just accepting masculine gay men. Remember, all of us LGBT people have to stick together whether or not masculine or feminine. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 7964 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted May 22, 2016 10:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by Electro DGX: I can relate...in a way. I am personally homosexual, but the way other homosexual people act completely disgusts me. The female personality they wear, the problems made over ridiculous issues, stereotypes; it makes me disgusted that I have to be surrounded by these people. In fact, I often wish that I never was this way because I hate being generalized in such a way, since I highly identify with masculine energy and my personal expression of feminine energy can upset me.
In my experience, most gay guys don't like the ones you're describing, with many describing themselves as "straight acting" and prefer "Masc4masc." Of course, those not particularly involved in the gay community tend to only be aware of the most obvious, which tends to be those who defy gender norms, though straight men can be considered "effeminate" quite easily, even "sissies" or like to dress up as women, just as some straight women can be independent short-haired tomboys who eschew fashion & makeup, but naturally they can easily be mistaken for being gay & lesbian by those who confuse sexual orientation with gender behaviors. Ironically, self-hating or closeted gay men of the "macho" variety can be the worst bullies of "feminine" straight men, as they seek to punish what they hate about themselves in someone else. Many will mistake that type of gay man for being straight, and the bullied straight guy for being gay. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 7964 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted May 22, 2016 10:47 PM
Queen Salome, I don't see it as astrological. Furthermore, I don't consider growing cultures to automatically be better. The more prosperous and enviable places on earth tend to have low birth rates and a much more pleasant life, though it can breed softness (but not necessarily so) that leave them more vulnerable to the more aggressive (and sometimes envious) in the long run (who in turn become more prosperous and then it's their turn to enjoy the fruits of what they've plundered and taken over, get soft, and fall to others). Granted, I don't see how anyone who studies history can honestly believe that the "meek will inherit the earth." (Unless in the gallows humor way.) BBS with more. IP: Logged |
Electro DGX Knowflake Posts: 746 From: Another Galaxy Registered: Jul 2015
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posted May 22, 2016 11:00 PM
I should've stated that the expression of femininity is a personal issue of mine PixieJane and Pisces Plutonian. If another gay male wishes to express more of their feminine side, then they are free to. I just feel out of place when I do it personally. ------------------ Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, Neptune Scorpio Mars conj. Asc in First 8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine Uranus Have you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet? IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 7964 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted May 22, 2016 11:29 PM
That women are weak & passive is software (that is sociology) rather than biology, though it is common, so ubiquitous that it doesn't get questioned. At some level even I accepted it, which is why when a girlfriend of mine "femmed" me up I found it liberating to realize I could be feminine AND strong, rather than some wilting princess in need of a knight to protect me. Granted, I did find myself having to flee at times when I lived in a terrible neighborhood, but any lone man with any sense would've ran just as I did. As I learned in various self-defense groups I trained with, our brain (and staying alert) is our best defense. (Note, there's a difference between martial arts focused on sports/competitions and those for self-defense, and furthermore some places are more into selling you products, including belts, which means advancements is based on money--time includes money--than by actual skill, so shop carefully if you go that route. Also, I don't think there's one "best" style of martial arts for every single person, it depends on the mind and body of the individual.) Even before I received formal training, I managed to defend myself, once against 3 guys (though they hadn't expected me to fight back, and the crowd rushing forward to watch the fight was surely a contributing factor on why they ran). I could not have possibly beaten any one of them at arm wrestling, but fighting is more than physical strength (and frankly, I find plenty of men to be pain wimps). And once I actually got some formal training by experienced people, my ability to defend myself became so much more. Though in the case of fighting off the 3 guys, I wasn't treated with respect as a guy would've been, but rather those guys were treated with contempt, which was subtly reinforcing the wrong idea that femininity is weakness to me, and why I subconsciously accepted it. Luckily, I was raised in a family where women were assertive, sometimes even aggressive, and that combined with my choice of media that did not promote traditional gender norms of our society gave me an edge as I got older, and once I learned that being feminine didn't mean being submissive or weak, I was even better off. So I don't hate being female, nor do I live in fear (though I am aware of the dangers out there, perhaps ironically more so than many other women who do live in fear), but I recognize so many negative messages for females as they grow up (for males, too)...but it's getting better, IMO. ETA: thought it might be of interest to know I received some training from a woman that showed me that pure will could become pure strength. I don't want to explain it, but I found out that even Hollywood trainers can show that (without the mysticism I got my training with), like here which is similar to what I went through (to about the 2 minute mark): http://youtu.be/It4NITv1tdY?t=1m24s IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 7964 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted May 22, 2016 11:29 PM
I thought I'd also point out that historically, women have also been valuable warriors, though this was usually in the nomadic cultures (in which case plenty of settled folk couldn't easily tell the difference between the men and women--I recall reading somewhere that the so-called "Amazons" were actually a once widely ranging nomad group that included men and women, but adorned in ways that no one could tell the gender before they were shot down with arrows). Up until I believe the Edo period, women in Japan could be fierce warriors, even samurai (though in this case they usually defended the homes from attackers while their samurai husband attacked others, who might also face female defenders) which makes sense given that their fighting styles emphasize grace and dexterity over raw strength (it only takes a few pounds/kg of pressure to slit an artery, or even stab the heart if done right, and knowledge of pressure points can allow a weaker opponent to take out a much stronger one, as both smaller men and women have done enough times). In the Edo period, the roles of women changed and their historical role as leaders and warriors was also downplayed. (ETA: more ) There were also female pirates (some openly so who led the men), and you can find plenty of detailed examples of female warriors and commanders in Women Warlords which are but a few (and while focused more on leaders, it does include many women who changed the course of battle by joining in, the females bolstering the demoralized males), and it skipped others (example ). Also (very short): http://youtu.be/uNpQ742m50g?t=49s You'd probably enjoy this as well (she's not the only woman listed in the badass files, btw): http://www.badassoftheweek.com/index.cgi?id=454977124513 And that goes into other things. All sorts of ways exist to equalize or even take advantages away from men, and perhaps why women have, at times, been characterized in the more brutal societies as poisoners of those who threatened them and their ambitions or otherwise caused them grief. (Poisoning can also be subtle and an indirect cause of death.) ETA: The point being, women don't have to live in fear, and we don't have to be victims. And it's not that women can't take part in society, that women must be protected like children, or that the only thing we have to contribute is being pretty baby machines for the menfolk. And, most of all, it's not that society can't change the software or that women will always suffer (at least any more than anyone else). IP: Logged |
DualGem Knowflake Posts: 159 From: Canada Registered: Oct 2015
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posted May 23, 2016 05:47 AM
I have to be very careful and cautious as I think I'm the only guy commenting here.Yes its harder to be a female. But most people acknowledge that fact that's why Mothers Day always outsells fathers day. I can tell you of many Dads that aren't even sure if they will even get a phone call, but for mothers day a phone call is the expected minimum. quote: Originally posted by Queen Salome: ..... I'm especially annoyed by the fact that majority of the women I can see in media are brainless creatures showing off their fake a** or t***.....
Sound as if your in an environment filled with immature females and even females that never grew up. When I lived in Toronto, I can tell you of many driven females specifically in the corporate world. Ever since I moved to Ottawa I just see 20-26yrs olds that will never grow up because: a)They are from the country and raised backwards(Traditional view of women, Ottawa is not very urban believe it or not). b)Never seen women in high positions outside of government/public service jobs. c) Never grew up with the influence of dedicated/responsible people. d)Combo of all thee above. Anyway, your not them and it shouldn't bother you. As long as people know your not like them that's all that matters and more importantly you know your not them. If you go to a club, mall or any public place you can instantly recognized what class and what type of person someone is. So I say, let those people you describes above f*ck up there lives, your not them and you have a lot better things going for you. Stick to your plan of success/game plan. Slow and steady wins the race. Your efforts will bare fruit later down the road. ==================================== Gemini Sun, Capricorn Rising Aries Moon Gemini Mercury Venus Taurus Mars Cancer IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2314 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015
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posted May 23, 2016 06:17 AM
Sounds like self-hate. I can't even with the rest of this post. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67419 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 23, 2016 07:17 AM
The Moon would be the place to look. Check the asteroid Nemesis and even Blew it.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Hemilla Knowflake Posts: 244 From: Serbia Registered: May 2015
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posted May 24, 2016 08:30 AM
I feel like you have wrong approact to what smart is , some people will say that Kim Karadashian (for example) is stupid, but i would have to disagree she might not know a single Sheakspeers play or Dostoyevskis book but she is inteligent - if she was not she would not be where she is - we might not like the way she got (or anyone with similar life story) there,but you do not achive succes by just spreading your legs or knowing bunch of facts - our social lives need more than a degree or a beautifle face,you need to be social or interesting socially - big part of great painters becoming GREAT painters lays in their personal stories and what others saw or heard of them.No one is safe,a man can get killed because he gets more attention from women ,drives a better car or just looked another man in a way the pschyho didnt like it. You shouldnt dislike yourself because of it, but if you can protect yourself by not going somwheare alone or dressing tasteless - what happened in Cologne is on governments and countries soul for big part,because they dont care of their peoples safety, that happens when you let in enmass people that come from different cultures and mentalities in addition with only social life they have being disturbingly full of various outcasts from all sorts of lifes - people that without guilt left their families behind and spent their last dime on crossing illegaly state boundries - they lose little morality or social conceousnes they had. Firstly you should love yourself,no one has the right to disort your opinion on what you are with their evil doings,your body is your temple, you should please your soul with enjoying in things you love,dress in what you wish, walk as you do - you are a woman and that is a high role , you are a doughter,a sister,a mother - no man can be that. IP: Logged |
Hemilla Knowflake Posts: 244 From: Serbia Registered: May 2015
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posted May 24, 2016 08:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: I thought I'd also point out that historically, women have also been valuable warriors, though this was usually in the nomadic cultures (in which case plenty of settled folk couldn't easily tell the difference between the men and women--I recall reading somewhere that the so-called "Amazons" were actually a once widely ranging nomad group that included men and women, but adorned in ways that no one could tell the gender before they were shot down with arrows). Up until I believe the Edo period, women in Japan could be fierce warriors, even samurai (though in this case they usually defended the homes from attackers while their samurai husband attacked others, who might also face female defenders) which makes sense given that their fighting styles emphasize grace and dexterity over raw strength (it only takes a few pounds/kg of pressure to slit an artery, or even stab the heart if done right, and knowledge of pressure points can allow a weaker opponent to take out a much stronger one, as both smaller men and women have done enough times). In the Edo period, the roles of women changed and their historical role as leaders and warriors was also downplayed. (ETA: more ) There were also female pirates (some openly so who led the men), and you can find plenty of detailed examples of female warriors and commanders in Women Warlords which are but a few (and while focused more on leaders, it does include many women who changed the course of battle by joining in, the females bolstering the demoralized males), and it skipped others (example ). Also (very short): http://youtu.be/uNpQ742m50g?t=49s You'd probably enjoy this as well (she's not the only woman listed in the badass files, btw): http://www.badassoftheweek.com/index.cgi?id=454977124513 And that goes into other things. All sorts of ways exist to equalize or even take advantages away from men, and perhaps why women have, at times, been characterized in the more brutal societies as poisoners of those who threatened them and their ambitions or otherwise caused them grief. (Poisoning can also be subtle and an indirect cause of death.) ETA: The point being, women don't have to live in fear, and we don't have to be victims. And it's not that women can't take part in society, that women must be protected like children, or that the only thing we have to contribute is being pretty baby machines for the menfolk. And, most of all, it's not that society can't change the software or that women will always suffer (at least no more than anyone else).
Schyntian women warriors are tought to be inspiration behind the story of Amazons http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/10/141029-amazons-scythians-hunger-games-herodotus-ice-princess-tattoo-cannabis/ Vikings and Slavs also had female warriors Spartan women were equal to men Female war godesses are present in almost all ancient cultures. Our modern history is full of female war heroes IP: Logged | |