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Ami Anne
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posted May 23, 2016 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People seem to like this series and that makes me happy. The Ascendent(ASC) is a somewhat difficult concept to grasp. It took me several years before I could get behind the eyes of the ASC. I need to get behind the eyes of every Astrological placement. Then, it opens. At that point, I can work with it.

I seem to be a “watery” astrologer. I relate to other “watery” astrologers. They seem to approach the chart in an intuitive manner, rather than purely an intellectual one. Of course, Astrology is a gargantuan body of intellectual knowledge.That goes without saying. However, many, many astrologers seem to stay in the realm of the intellect. Hence, their writing is dry and uninteresting. I strive for an Astrological approach which uses the heart, as well as the mind. I like to engage the reader, so the reader feels he is eating ice cream rather than porridge/gruel.

The ASC is one’s outer layer. However, it is affixed. One responds to one’s everyday world by engaging his outer layer. One’s outer layer is one’s habitual manner of response. However, inside, one may be quite, quite different. The ASC is different from the MC because the MC is career and one’s reputation in society, as well as the face one shows to the general society. However, the ASC is one’s habitual walk through the everyday world.

Let me give some personal examples because I know myself better than I know anyone. I am a Libra ASC. Libras like to make harmony in all situations. That is one of their dominant drives.The Libra ASC does not like dissenting. She does not like screaming. She does not like loud voices. Hence, she seeks to find moderation. If I have a dispute with anyone, I like to compromise. I like to meet in the middle. I do not like to win an argument in which the other person feels he loses.I like both people to win. Hence, if I have conflicts in my daily life, I will respond in this way. That is my ASC. However, my Sun and Moon are quite different. One would, likely, not see the Sun and Moon of a person one sees on a superficial basis,only, such as a neighbor to whom one waves from the car window.


One looks like one’s ASC. One dresses like one’s ASC. One speaks in the manner of one’s ASC. However, down deep, one is NOT one’s ASC. That is really the point. One is really, essentially, NOT one’s ASC. One may appear to be but it is an appearance. If one knows the native well, the native will be his Moon, first of all, and then his Sun.

When I say that a person will be his Moon, first of all, I mean “most deeply” When one knows someone intimately, one knows them by Moon sign. That is why I don’t think one can have a truly intimate relationship when the Moons are not harmonious. Conversely, one will have an effortless relationship with someone with whom when the Moons are harmonious.

Let me see if I can give examples of each ASC.

Aries
Aries ASC looks like an imp. I don’t know how else to describe it but to me, it is an imp. Kate Middleton is said to be an Aries ASC. Although she has an image of great dignity, one can see the elfish look to her face. Aries ASC is assertive. He does not approach a conflict in search of harmony, as does the Libra ASC. He wants to win. Aries ASC will be competitive in all areas of engagement, unlike it’s opposite sign, Libra, who will compromise in all areas of engagement.

Taurus
Taurus ASC looks like a bull. That is the classic manner in which one can identify the Taurus ASC. He looks solid. He looks grounded. He looks immovable. In his mannerisms, he is calm and rational. He looks as if he is unfazed by life events that would have throw others into a tizzy. Picture the solid, comforting presence of a pilot as one boards a plane.


Gemini
Gemini ASC is said to look like an elf, similar to the Aries ASC. However, Gemini ASC will have a strong aura of intelligence and alertness to his mien. I am reminded of my Yorkie. Her ears perk up when she sees me grab a plastic bag because I grab one when I go into the garden and she loves the garden. She has a strong manner of intelligence. That is the keynote of the Gemini ASC.

He is usually tall and thin with lovely hands. His manner is one of gregariousness. He has an air of openness. One feels one may approach him and one will not be met with an aloof gaze, but with warmth.

Cancer
Cancer ASC may have a round face that looks like the Moon, it’s ruling planet. He may have beautiful eyes which resonate with the depths of the oceans. Cancer rules the oceans. The Cancer ASC will resonate a feeling of hominess, as if one could invite him to dinner and he would bring home made bread and a scented candle. Cancer ASC is my favorite ASC in men. They appear as if they are warm and welcoming. They may or may not be. One would need to study other placements but they do emanate a feeling of comfort and safety.

Leo
Leo ASC may have lovely hair in the manner of a lion’s name. Think of Farrah Fawcett or Robert Redford. Leo ASC is said to be the most self centered of the ASCs. Leo ASC is said to dominate the conversation with his accomplishments and feats. He loves praise and this is what drives the seemingly self centered nature he,often, displays. On the positive side, he will be friendly. He will be warm and he may even be the life of the party. Leo ASC would be the most likely contender for dancing in the middle of the room with a lampshade on his head.

Virgo
Virgo ASC looks “clean”. I don’t know how else to say it but there is a sense that he just came out of the shower, that he smells like delicious body wash and that he would not utter a bad word. The Virgo ASC may be very health conscious. He may be germ phobic. He may be one of the best employees of the Zodiac because of his marvelous work ethic. He will tend to have high values and morals, as well.

Libra

Libra is said to be the most beautiful ASC. She does not have a sultry beauty, as may the Scorpio ASC. She has a wholesome appearance, as the proverbial girl next door, the one that you bring home to Mama. The quintessential Libra ASC is Doris Day. The Libra ASC likes harmony and may compromise to a fault. Arguments upset her.

Scorpio
The Scorpio ASC appears sultry. She does not have the classic girl next door appearance as does her neighbor on the Zodiac, Libra. She looks as if she may pursue the darker pleasures of life. I am not saying she will be a goth but the goth image may help you visualize the Scorpio ASC.

Sagittarius
Sagittarius looks like a horse. I do not say this in a disparaging way. I love the beauty of the Sagittarius ASC. There is a wild, fierce element. Think of Beyonce. If she is not a Sagiattarius ASC, she epitomizes one. Princess Diana was another Sagittarius ASC. The Sagittarius ASC loves and is very accomplished at physical enterprises such as dance, which was the case with the aforementioned women.

Capricorn
Capricorn ASC may be bony. By bony, I mean a sense of bones protruding, whether they be high cheekbones or a prominent nose. A classic Capricorn ASC is Tom Petty. This ASC appears to be a serious person who is mature beyond his years. He may have had to grow up early. He may have a sadness about him, as if he is weary of the struggles of life.

Aquarius
The Aquarius ASC may have a high forehead. There may be an feeling that the face is not symmetrical. This is hard to describe but I see it as a sense that some harmony is missing.This is usually very, very subtle. It may be more of a sense than a physical feature, too. The Aquarius ASC may be a devotee of natural healing such as acupuncture. He may be interested in alternative subject matter such as Astrology.

Pisces
The Pisces ASC is one of the most beautiful, in my opinion. They, usually, have very lovely eyes. They have a sense that they are ocean creatures in the manner of the fish which represents their sign. They have very keen intuition. They can size up a situation by a feeling that may wash over them, in the manner of water flowing from a Divine spout.

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posted May 23, 2016 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for this Ami, as usual, you make it easy to understand.

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posted May 23, 2016 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ami

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posted May 24, 2016 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My hands are pretty hot

Gemini Ascendant

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posted May 24, 2016 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ES

The ASC is kind of a hard concept to really understanding without about 3 years of Astrology behind you imo

The Moon is the deepest heart.

The Sun is the identity/ego

The ASC is the person's WAY/Manner/ how they ACT in every day life

I am a Libra ASC. I feel confident in business dealings because I have to be fair.

I like to make harmony

I seek this

Down deep, I have deeper layers than the ASC but I am still governed by it lol

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posted May 24, 2016 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Valentine:
Thanks for this Ami, as usual, you make it easy to understand.


Thank you, V. You have the SWEETEST energy!

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posted May 24, 2016 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
My hands are pretty hot

Gemini Ascendant


I bet

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posted May 24, 2016 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beautifly written - you wrote what i tought !

For some time now i am figuring out how asc should work,and if i take myself as example what you wrote is true - people that dont know me see me as proud person,if i had a coin for every time my mom came and told me that some of her colegues from her job told her " that doughter of yours is so proud, her nose pierces the skys" i would be rich! But i am not really like that - most of the times while i am walking the streets i feel insecure,i avoid eye conntact and so on,but luckily people dont see that xD i am Leo ASC btw

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posted May 24, 2016 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love this!

For me, I am Sag ASC, but also have Neptune rising, so I resonate with both Sag and Pisces.

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posted May 24, 2016 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPILL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Sagittarius

you should see me "dance" Ami... lol (probably like a crazy horse)

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posted May 24, 2016 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^lol

My first husband is a Sag Asc, and his dancing, omg. Legs high up in the air. Knees hitting his chest. I tried to teach him the subtleties of salsa..no go. He was jerking me all over the place like I was an unwelcomed rider. "Crazy-horse" pretty much sums up that Sag Asc's dancing!

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posted May 24, 2016 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo Pill

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posted May 24, 2016 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hemilla:
Beautifly written - you wrote what i tought !

For some time now i am figuring out how asc should work,and if i take myself as example what you wrote is true - people that dont know me see me as proud person,if i had a coin for every time my mom came and told me that some of her colegues from her job told her " that doughter of yours is so proud, her nose pierces the skys" i would be rich! But i am not really like that - most of the times while i am walking the streets i feel insecure,i avoid eye conntact and so on,but luckily people dont see that xD i am Leo ASC btw



Thank you, H and Bless you!

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posted May 24, 2016 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With my Scorpio Asc conjunct Mars should I look like a gothic imp?

Lol, I've never really put on a gothic image honestly. I think the Marsian influence changes my style greatly. I wear cargo jeans very often and like blue ^-^

My parents say I'm more like a Scorpio Asc but my friends say I'm more like the Aries Ascendant. Strange lol

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Let me input some point as well. My daugheter is Sag asc. Loooooooooooong legs, strong legs. She has long flow of beautiful sable hair. She has somewhat jerky movements. It is one of the reason why I enroll her to ballet. I hope it will teach her to move more gracefully . She has very round face (but she is 5) so it can change. and... her favorites are horses, ponies, unicorn (she thinks unicorns are real)
Her dad is Cancer asc. Tall, big head, very round face and he has pigent toes.

I am Scorpio Asc. Small (5.2) skinny, not sure I am a sultry beauty. Not sure If I have penetrating gaze ( I have Neptune very close to my ASC) . Control freak?.... No.... (I have sun in Aquarius)

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My 6 yo Virgo asc (and sun) daughter looks clean, always and often exceptionally so. Even when she has just woken or been playing in mud, there's something very clear about her. Her hair always looks shiny and falls in the right way, naturally.

She's quite squeamish too - she doesn't like the word 'blood' even being said

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posted May 24, 2016 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, Ami, I am shocked. I would have never thought you were Libra rising.

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posted May 24, 2016 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Wow, Ami, I am shocked. I would have never thought you were Libra rising.


Why lol

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Your daughter is adorable, Florence and I see what you mean about Virgo lol

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posted May 24, 2016 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Why lol


Not sure, lol.

Well, you"ve said some pretty mean things about Libra, specifically moon in libra, lol. It's unusual to find someone disliking the moon sign of their ascendant.

Secondly, you don't seem to shy away from controversy, especially regarding politics. which sort of goes against the grain of the supposed peace seeking nature of Libra rising.

ETA: Are you very sure of your time of birth? If it puts you in the very early degrees of Libra, perhaps it's incorrect and you are instead Virgo rising. And if it puts you in the very last degrees of Libra, perhaps you are instead Scorpio rising. Just throwing that out there... I could see you as either of those rising signs better than Libra rising. There is a sweetness to you which is akin to Libra but I attributed it to your cancer planets. But who knows, I may be wrong.

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Any tips for deciphering between two ASCs? Since my birth time isn't 100% accurate, I often bounce back and forth between Aquarius ASC and Pisces ASC.

I have a high forehead and asymmetrical face (to me) but I'm also a triple Virgo so I have what I can only call doe eyes lol. I'm petite and have small hands/arms and large feet which I've read can also be associated with Pisces ASC. But I also look somewhat Aquarius - a bit of an athletic/tomboyish look. So it's hard to know...

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
Any tips for deciphering between two ASCs? Since my birth time isn't 100% accurate, I often bounce back and forth between Aquarius ASC and Pisces ASC.

I have a high forehead and asymmetrical face (to me) but I'm also a triple Virgo so I have what I can only call doe eyes lol. I'm petite and have small hands/arms and large feet which I've read can also be associated with Pisces ASC. But I also look somewhat Aquarius - a bit of an athletic/tomboyish look. So it's hard to know...



Never mind what you look like. Appearances can be affected by other planets making aspects to the ascendant. and besides, we can't see and give you a more objective idea of what you really look like.

Are you dreamy and attracted to fairy/folks tales and stories? Do you feel for the little guy and the underdog? Do you find yourself hiding tears from people and crying in secret? Can you spend hours fantasizing? Do you find this world a hard place to be in?

If so, and especially if you have no planets in Pisces, then you're Pisces rising, dear. If not, if this description does not resonate with you, if you feel rather detached though you intellectually support the underdog, you're Aquarius rising.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Your daughter is adorable, Florence and I see what you mean about Virgo lol


Thank you. I always notice this now after reading you say it before. I probably marvel at it more because Im far from a fastidious mum about cleanliness.

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posted May 25, 2016 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
Any tips for deciphering between two ASCs? Since my birth time isn't 100% accurate, I often bounce back and forth between Aquarius ASC and Pisces ASC.

I have a high forehead and asymmetrical face (to me) but I'm also a triple Virgo so I have what I can only call doe eyes lol. I'm petite and have small hands/arms and large feet which I've read can also be associated with Pisces ASC. But I also look somewhat Aquarius - a bit of an athletic/tomboyish look. So it's hard to know...


You can send me a pic of put one up and I will take a look.

You would need to answer some questions, too, but I am pretty good figuring out ASCs.

The neighboring ones are very different, so if one has an approximate time, it is, usually, not very hard.

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posted May 25, 2016 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SV

I am super busy for the next week or so and may not even have a computer, so don't think I ignored you if you send me an e mail lol

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