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Kannon McAfee
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posted May 26, 2016 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MilaBirkin:
I have Gemini in 2nd house and my voice is soft. A lot of people told me I have a sweet voice and sometimes my voice is like a baby girl's voice, lol, mostly on the phone.
I have Mercury in Aquarius in 10th house square Pluto.
But I also have a voice like if... I just woke up??? you know what I mean?

These framed up the qualities of the voice. Those relate to the emotions behind the voice, the level of energy behind it, etc. The physical factors of diaphragm (Cancer/Moon), voicebox/throat (Taurus) and energy locus (Sun, Asc) also play into it.

2nd house does relate to throat, but does not encompass the entire quality of one's voice. When I'm doing rectification work and there is an event involving damage to or surgery on the throat I look to the 2nd house cusp for a possible hit in progressed action. However, I never look at a person's natal chart and say hmmm their voice must match the sign on their 2nd house cusp. That would be a titled reductionism.

You can spin yourself round, right round like a record baby, right round round round all around the chain of rulerships like a kid in a metaphysical playground, really enjoying yourself. But you are going to get dizzy and won't be able to reason things through clearly.

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posted May 26, 2016 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
3rd house would make sense since lots of Scorpio rising have very deep voice. That'd match up with Capricorn more than Sag.

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posted June 24, 2017 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 8ofHearts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oooh la la. Mercury is a huge attraction factor for me. (Chart & MC Ruler.)
Mercury Rising (Virgo 29) with Libra on 2nd house cusp.
Sun/Pluto in Libra in 1st conj ASC
Mercury conj Uranus in Libra in 1st
Moon conj Venus in Scorp in 2nd
Scorp on 3rd house cusp
MOON/VENUS/NEPTUNE/JUPITER all parallel cusp of 3RD HOUSE - never noticed this before!!
Dreamy Neptune (Sag) in 3rd
only Taurus in chart - Mars in 8th opp Moon
Mercury parallel Juno & contraparallel Mars/Pallas


Been told I have a lyrical, sing-songy way of speaking. Used to sing. I have high and low tones occurring simultaneously. Many guys over the phone say my voice sounds young. (I'm in my 40s.) If I get sick my voice gets crazy deep. Also been told I sound erotic on the phone and in messages! One guys who had his pluto conj my Mercury/Uranus was obsessed w/ my normal speaking voice which was a bit weird but I can vouch for this synastry as I have it in reverse with my latest crush. His Mercury exact conjunct my ASC just inside my first conjunct my Pluto/Sun and I could listen to him recite anything alllll day looong. He has Merc at 29 Virgo conj Pluto & Uranus AND Moon & Venus with a sextile to Neptune and can be very smoooooth when he wants. Uhnph.

My throat is my weak spot. Used to catch a lot of colds every Fall in my throat and had perpetual strep as a kid. Rare these days tho...
When I was younger, I had a really bad habit of trailing off and not finishing sentences (not sure if that's Uranus or Neptune) I tend to speak in bursts when I get excited about something, then not say anything for a while.
Neptune in 3rd: love film, music, anything that merges images, words and sound/music. I like to write poetry or little songs if I'm upset or as special gifts. It doesn't bother me at all if lyrics are totally obscure and make no sense. I often will just hear sound and completely ignore the rest. Also, all boyfriends have pointed out to me that when I get very upset or emotional, I talk in circles and this is true!

As a female in terms of vocal tone (not specifically music/lyrics) I'm attracted mostly to soulful female singers that have a smooth but slightly smokey & loose, somewhat dreamy erotic and emotional tone. (Moon conj Eros and Venus here!) Many of my faves started out as backup singers doing hooks for other artists and there's something about their tone that grabs you instantly.) Probably also selfishly I like ones that have similar sound/style to my own so I can sing along?? ;}

SZA /Coco O./Kai/ Gavin Tureck/Jhene Aiko/Izzy Bizu/Imogen Heap/Hiatus Coyote/Ann-Marie,Grace Mitchell/Joy Williams/Tove Lo/Lykke Li/ Kehlani/Charlie XCX/Carla Morrison/Lana Del Rey/Ester Dean/Emma Louise/flamenco singer Rosalia/Res/EZA/Astrid S/Kelly Zutrau of WET/ Juliette Ashby/some Alicia Keys/some Rihanna/Andreya Triyana esp. w/Bonobo/occasionally JoJo

Favorite all stars: Amy Winehouse/Stevie Nicks/Patti Griffin/Santigold/Esthero/old SIA/PJ Harvey/Imogen Heap/Feist/MIA/ Beth Ditto/Lissie/Alison Mosshart/Erika Wennerstrom.

What you vibe with is indeed very personal. With SZA, her lyrics, tone, way of singing and the sensitivity she conveys I thought ...that girl is full of Scorpio!!! And sure enough, she has a conjunction of Sun/Venus/Pluto in Scorp all conjunct my Moon and Venus almost exact. And her Mercury is in Scorp also conj my Psyche! She is waaaay eclectic and her lyrics - though random on the page, flow perfectly to me the way she sings them. ToveLo is very similar Sun conj Moon w/wide conj to Pluto in Scorp all conj my Eros/Moon. Her Mars conj Mercury/Juno late in Libra conj my own Merc/Uranus. Seems like a theme!

In men, the biggest turn on is a DEEEEEEEP DEEEEP voice with panache/flair. ahhhhhh...
I also love accents and a rhythm or turn of phrase some folks have. (And of course wit/humor!)
Chart Ruler = Mercury
Ruler of 3rd = Pluto
Ruler of 5th = Uranus
Ruler of 7th = Neptune, deposited in 3rd
Ruler of 8th = Mars w/ Mars in 8th and Sun conj Pluto. I tend to like dudes with strong Mercury (and/or lotsa Virgo/Gemini) with aspects from Mercury to Pluto/Mars/Uranus or Neptune.

Sorry for the sidebars but I expect all the folks who's vocals & expressions we particularly "vibe & resonate with" connect straight back to our own natal profiles. ;}

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posted June 28, 2017 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine is in leo but has more virgo in it and a mars there - same positions has my twin sister and let me tell you something - she is LOUD! Me , I can be loud but...not as her

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posted June 28, 2017 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The way I see it, voice relates to Taurus/2nd house, not Gemini/3rd house.

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posted July 03, 2017 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mamawolf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MilaBirkin:
I have Gemini in 2nd house and my voice is soft. A lot of people told me I have a sweet voice and sometimes my voice is like a baby girl's voice, lol, mostly on the phone.
I have Mercury in Aquarius in 10th house square Pluto.
But I also have a voice like if... I just woke up??? you know what I mean?

I have the same exact placements except Mercury in 9th and conjunct MC. Mine is pretty low and I have a hard time speaking loudly without feeling weird

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posted July 03, 2017 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mariamne Mara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Qualities of the voice are related to Asc, Mercury, Moon, and [b]3rd house, not 2nd.

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This.

Have Aries second house with Mars in Aquarius house XII conjunct AC and my voice, even it's strong and a nit raspy, is nice and I'm considered as a very good singer (not professional).
My 3rd house is Taurus which ruler, Mercury, is in Capricorn house XII, conjunct Venus. I love singing when I'm alone.

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posted September 24, 2020 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Qualities of the voice are related to Asc, Mercury, Moon, and [b]3rd house, not 2nd.

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I second you hugely on this.
Jupiter in 3rd house here and I always have had a loud voice, since childhood. I was always told not to be so loud when talking (Jup square Asc) but it was just my tone. Mind you, it's not masculine nor high pitched. It's just strong, think mezzo soprano.

What a pity I haven't received a formal musical education 😂

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posted September 24, 2020 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MilaBirkin:
I have Gemini in 2nd house and my voice is soft. A lot of people told me I have a sweet voice and sometimes my voice is like a baby girl's voice, lol, mostly on the phone.
I have Mercury in Aquarius in 10th house square Pluto.
But I also have a voice like if... I just woke up??? you know what I mean?

Baby Voice ?
Not at all.
My Voice is very Deep, Manly and full of Bass instead treble. Yes I'm man.
2nd House in Gemini.
Venus Conjunct Moon Conjunct 2nd House Cusp in Gemini.

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posted September 24, 2020 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Electro told me that I sound very straightforward. I have an Aries Mercury, nothing in my third house (except for the cappy transits).

I can talk very quietly, or be too loud (accidentally), depending on where I am, or who I'm talking to. I usually like to sit and listen, more than I do talking.

Some people like my voice. I don't. I have an accent that makes me stand out, and I don't like that either, but I can't fake an American one (even though that's the accent I started out with). Mercury square Saturn, which rules my third. When I answered the phone, people asked for my mother. Either that, or they would start flirting with me (men would), asking about my accent.

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posted September 24, 2020 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus and Taurus also very much relate to the voice. It's almost uncanny how often Taurus shows up strongly in charts of well known and popular singers.

Venus also does too.

One of my passions is singing. If I could sing for a living and make money, I'd be happier than pig in poop.

I have a pretty strong Venus, Taurus MC, Libra Moon, Libra on the 3rd.

I have some vocal covers on my youtube channel that I had on private for awhile, but recently put on public again. But I have really crappy equipment and don't know the first thing about audio recording, so they aren't the best.

I mostly have them up in case I run into a band or folks looking for a singer and they want some examples.

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posted September 25, 2020 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for viviette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The 2nd house/trad ruler Venus is to do with talent (among other things.)
I would expect the 2nd house with a planet like Venus in there to potentially bestow at least a soft / luxurious maybe a velvety voice, or heightened singing ability.

Mercury would benefit from some VENUS TYPE LEVERAGE.

3rd house/Gemini/Merc is about communication (including writing ability) how you get a message across, HOW you tell it to engage your listener (using anecdotes, fun, inflection..)
But this doesn't mean that on its own, a strong Gemini influence wouldn't give nice tone. In fact, the Gemini may even subconsciously work on his voice, exploring it as part of his tool-kit in better communication.

I imagine Venus-Mercury contacts could help someone really 'MASTER' their voice (if they decided to) especially with Venus CONJUNCT Mercury. There's a double talent/gift to Mercury-Venus (what with Gemini being multi-talented/multi-faceted and charming)

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posted September 29, 2020 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrogirlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sagittarius in my 2ndHouse and Aquarius in my 3rd....scorpio ascending... some people say I have a sexy , soft "powdery" "formal" voice. whatever that means?? and others *like my boyfriend*, say that when I get mad my voice sounds light but high pitched ... go figure??

Sun pisces, Moon Taurus, Asc Scorp.

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