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ilunatique
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posted June 20, 2016 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What aspects could make someone be judgemental?

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PixieJane
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posted June 20, 2016 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From my perspective, that would be about everyone, especially in their teens (though some get worse after their teens).

Though if you mean extremely and ridiculously judgmental then I've noticed many signs for that, with the only common feature being they felt inferior rather than superior (despite trying to act superior). Like my aunt, her multiple divorces make her sensitive and she's unusually judgmental (and extremely vocal and even willing to use violence) about the sexual practices of others (and has told me and others that we are "suspicious" even if she doesn't have anything solid), which I'm sure is so she can feel better about herself.

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posted June 20, 2016 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with PixieJane, although I will add that Aries can be a bit judge-mental. Other than that though, not too sure.

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posted June 20, 2016 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonsai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone is judgemental about different things. Even ones who claim to strongly oppose judging others are guilty themselves of judging. I don't know if it's a sign thing so much as the culture you are brought up in and your personal values. Especially values. Basically anyone who does something that doesn't agree with your values you're likely to judge. Maybe you can argue that different signs have different values and will therefore judge others for different things, but all are judgemental in their own ways. Two people could be judgemental about the same thing but in opposite ways.

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posted June 20, 2016 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarahhm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i've noticed a bit with aquarius's and libras. i'm biased though, unfortunately all the people i know with a planet with aquarius and libra or on their ascendant can come off stuck up and judgemental :S

sag too now to think about it

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posted June 20, 2016 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScoprioPowerr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All signs are prone to judging a lot... Regardless of what anyone says. Everybody judges, one another. Someone who OUTWARDLY judges might be the air or fire signs. Each sign has a specific thing they'll judge a person on though. As a scorpio, I really judge people's common sense and the emotions of other.

Some aspects? Maybe it has to do with the Mercury, Sun, Mars and Pluto. I think those things depending on the aspect could make us very critical or others.

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posted June 21, 2016 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think everyone is at some point.

For me, it depends on how I'm feeling. If I'm in a mood where anything will irritate me, then I probably will be - although I try not to be. If I'm feeling happier, things bother me less. It depends on if something directly affects me.

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posted June 21, 2016 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can't avoid making / judgments.

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Ann7
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posted June 21, 2016 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We all are judge-y until we start to evolve into our higher selves (which usually happens after life hands us obstacles to overcome). Even once we evolve, it's still hard not to silently judge, we just become more accepting.

Like Pixie Jane said, people that judge and try to impose their will more than likely feel inferior.

Astrologically, the placements that i have personally encountered in another was a woman with an aries/ taurus cusp sun and mars tightly conjunct the ascendent from the 12th... Aggressive yet deeply insecure and stubborn.

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posted June 21, 2016 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my sister judges me and my mum for being judgemental in her view! which is hypocritical. however, my mum and i are pretty intuitive when it comes to reading people. my ma is excellent at it and can pick stuff up straight away usually from the eyes. this comes across as judging to my uninterested and aloof sister but for us its intuitive reading and just picking stuff up, its not really judging though.

my mum is a libra sun scorp moon and virgo ASC
my sister is leo sun cancer moon and libra ASC

Both have their moons at 29*

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posted June 21, 2016 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FruityLlama:
my sister judges me and my mum for being judgemental in her view! which is hypocritical. however, my mum and i are pretty intuitive when it comes to reading people. my ma is excellent at it and can pick stuff up straight away usually from the eyes. this comes across as judging to my uninterested and aloof sister but for us its intuitive reading and just picking stuff up, its not really judging though.

my mum is a libra sun scorp moon and virgo ASC
my sister is leo sun cancer moon and libra ASC

Both have their moons at 29*


It's kind of a fine line but I feel that reading a person is peering into their spirit. You can pick up on what they do not want you to see. And, yes, I guess we do tend to judge in a way but, for empaths, it's more of an unspoken gut reaction.

Outward judging is, for an example, basing an opinion on someones looks or personality when all you are seeing is their shell. Or judging someone on their life choices.


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posted June 21, 2016 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ann7:
It's kind of a fine line but I feel that reading a person is peering into their spirit. You can pick up on what they do not want you to see.

Not really related to the original topic. Just wanna say that I agree with what you said here.

I think that it is somewhat invasive. But it's difficult to switch off. I pick up random vibes and don't seem to have much control over it.

I've stopped looking at people's charts for the same reason (unless they want me to).

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posted June 21, 2016 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I judge people and situations for sure.
It's my worst and best quality.
I will decide something about a situation and that's the way it will be for a long time. It's sometimes hard to change my mind about that which I judged because I was so sure of it...

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posted June 21, 2016 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The question to ask is

Which sign is the most ignorant and quick to assume ?

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posted June 21, 2016 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
The question to ask is

Which sign is the most ignorant and quick to assume ?


Capricorn and Aquarius I have noticed for ignorance. Both can be judgemental too but I also want to say Libra for judgemental behaviour.

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posted June 21, 2016 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ann7:
We all are judge-y until we start to evolve into our higher selves (which usually happens after life hands us obstacles to overcome). Even once we evolve, it's still hard not to silently judge, we just become more accepting.

Like Pixie Jane said, people that judge and try to impose their will more than likely feel inferior.


True for most people, I'd say.

Not all though. People who've been introverted from the get-go or had to take on more mature roles younger in life, tend to see and think more of the below-the-surface things. Maybe circumstances also play into this.

If one has never needed to empathize, for whatever reason, then one may not pick up on it until much later in life.

--Just a thought.

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posted June 21, 2016 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me, personally, in my environment, it's Sun in Capricorns. They're side-eye is classic!

I don't see anything wrong with judgment, but too much I run for the hills, or forest, or whatever!!

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posted June 21, 2016 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FruityLlama:
Capricorn and Aquarius I have noticed for ignorance. Both can be judgemental too but I also want to say Libra for judgemental behaviour.

I would disagree with you there, Aquarius judges ignorant and close minded people. They are not themselves judgemental. I can vouch for Caps and Libra's being judgemental, I'm a Cap dominant (with personal planets Sun and Mars in Cap) and a Libra Ascendent with a Leo moon. I find myself judging people quite a bit, or people watching. I have to force myself to correct myself when I get too judgy though.

I would say Virgos and Gemini's also can be judgemental. I say this because my best friend is a Virgo dominant with all her personal planets except mars in Virgo and we people watch and judge others when were together a lot. She's a gemini ascendant and boy is she sassy! My significant other is a Virgo dom and sun too, but he is more quiet about judging others, but heck if he'd be caught dead doing stupid things. He's also a gemini moon, but since his moon is in the 12th house it takes a while for someone to really see it, but once it comes out he's king of satirizing people. We people watch too

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posted June 21, 2016 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
For me, personally, in my environment, it's Sun in Capricorns. They're side-eye is classic!

I don't see anything wrong with judgment, but too much I run for the hills, or forest, or whatever!!


As a Capricorn Sun, I can fully state that our side-eyes are great lol

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posted June 21, 2016 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
I think that it is somewhat invasive. But it's difficult to switch off. I pick up random vibes and don't seem to have much control over it.

I've stopped looking at people's charts for the same reason (unless they want me to).


Totally agree, it's very hard to switch off.

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posted June 21, 2016 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I had to get sign specific I would say Virgo but only because they have such a critical eye in all things. I say this with a virgo stelium myself.
Just the fact that most of us are choosing a sign goes to prove we are all guilty of it.

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posted June 21, 2016 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the question is clouded by different standards of judgment.

For example, in real life I've always gotten along with Capricorns, even though I'd think I'm not someone they'd be drawn to (there was one Cappie who became a bit too much for me due to his negativity, but he was more paranoid than judgmental, and sooner or later he thought everyone was plotting against him, and I have little patience for that). With 2 notable exceptions, I've also gotten along with Libras in real life (and I know enough about one of those Libras, an astro-twin, that my 5H stellium was in her 12H, which likely made it difficult to accept those energies in herself and responded poorly to my being comfortable with them).

Two things that can make Libra seem more judgmental to some is that one, they tend to remain objective (at least they try, though it's ultimately impossible, something many Libras understand which is why they appreciate feedback, especially of the hard to find impartial kind) and this translates as a lack of blind loyalty that some find threatening, even two-faced, because they're not certain Libra is going to automatically side with them as Libra is more concerned with being fair in an objective sense. The other is that Libra values rationality over emotion (though other placements can affect this significantly, of course) which means some people will come off as emotionally manipulative to them (while those seen as emotionally manipulative probably see themselves as simply sharing their feelings, but also with the assumption that their personal feelings trump all other considerations), which is judgmental (as everyone is in their own way), though as I know to not relate to them that way, I get along with most Libras and thus don't normally find them "judging" me in some extra hard or strong way.

I've actually noticed that Libra and Capricorn have a lot in common, though the reasons, or at least emphasis on what is more important, is different. Both value justice more than others do, but there's a more Saturnine element to the Capricorn whereas Libra is more focused on the social harmony (and more accepting of extenuating circumstances) rather than everyone getting their just desserts for better and worse.

Perhaps the reason I tend to get along with Cappies is because I always come through (and won't say I'll do something unless I mean to do it) so they know they can trust me on an earthly level which is important to them. Most Cappies I've known were also very interested (perhaps even obsessed) with something like history and thus I provided them with some stimulating conversation about their area of interests. Naturally, if others don't share their intellectual interests and are much more "flexible" (that is they'll get to something when and if they get to it, don't hassle them) then Cappie could very easily shun them as flaky and thus come off as extra judgmental.

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posted June 21, 2016 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That said, both would be inclined to make very good judges IMO, as they'd be inclined to be the most fair (or harsh and fair when it's Cappie--but then Libra sun/Pisces moon Judge Judy can be harsh as well), and if I had to choose I'd choose Libra first, Cappie second with an honorable mention to Scorpio (who tend to understand the complexities of life better than most despite their fixed nature), but only if an Eagle or better. (This assumes that I think--not feel--I'm in the right. If I wasn't, then my choices would be different.)

Others would be inclined to be less objective using other measuring sticks, from gut reactions (which can instead judge you on class, race, fashion, and a host of other things which they mistake for "knowing" you and "intuition"--and I do know a woman who described her ridiculous bigotry as "intuition that is almost never wrong" btw, and people like her always make me question others who say similar things about their intuition) to certain ideals or rules that were not actually meant to apply in this case, but may apply them anyway because the letter is more important than the spirit to them. ('Course the entire chart matters, and the backgrounds & upbringing would matter a lot as well.)

Pisces are wild cards for me, and given my 8H being Pisces, I'm not sure if their having the power to judge me in some official capacity would be the best or worst choice for me (regardless of whether I was in the right or wrong). Those with Pisces placements (especially sun and moon) have often been a force for change and passion in my life...usually for the better, but not always. We can find each other frustrating at times, but plenty of times the relationship (whatever it is) is worth it.

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posted June 21, 2016 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
That said, both would be inclined to make very good judges IMO, as they'd be inclined to be the most fair (or harsh and fair when it's Cappie--but then Libra sun/Pisces moon Judge Judy can be harsh as well), and if I had to choose I'd choose Libra first, Cappie second with an honorable mention to Scorpio (who tend to understand the complexities of life better than most despite their fixed nature), but only if an Eagle or better. (This assumes that I think--not feel--I'm in the right. If I wasn't, then my choices would be different.)

Others would be inclined to be less objective using other measuring sticks, from gut reactions (which can instead judge you on class, race, fashion, and a host of other things which they mistake for "knowing" you and "intuition"--and I do know a woman who described her ridiculous bigotry as "intuition that is almost never wrong" btw, and people like her always make me question others who say similar things about their intuition) to certain ideals or rules that were not actually meant to apply in this case, but may apply them anyway because the letter is more important than the spirit to them. ('Course the entire chart matters, and the backgrounds & upbringing would matter a lot as well.)

Pisces are wild cards for me, and given my 8H being Pisces, I'm not sure if their having the power to judge me in some official capacity would be the best or worst choice for me (regardless of whether I was in the right or wrong). Those with Pisces placements (especially sun and moon) have often been a force for change and passion in my life...usually for the better, but not always. We can find each other frustrating at times, but plenty of times the relationship (whatever it is) is worth it.


Interesting, I really vibed with what you said. However to me I see Libras judging based on fairness, and Capricorns judging based on morality. Those are my little inputs though, I agree that Libra and Capricorn are in the top, plus I forgot Scorpio, they are very big judgers.

*Note, I do not think judging is a bad thing unless it clouds thinking and discredits a person

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posted June 21, 2016 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
As a Capricorn Sun, I can fully state that our side-eyes are great lol

Yes they are great! Haha.

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