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misspriss
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posted July 07, 2016 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for misspriss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is my pet hate...being Scorpio everything, I like to "know" and when people withdraw/ shut down I really don't like it.

Which aspects do you think this is common for?

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posted July 07, 2016 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
12th/8th personal placements
Water signs in general
Personsl planets or angles conjunct or opposed a water planet(neptune/pluto)

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posted July 07, 2016 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meyray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ironically Scorpios are kings in this lol

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LaGioconda
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posted July 07, 2016 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaGioconda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have moon in 8th conjunct pluto and I am the queen of withdrawal

Also cap placements?

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posted July 07, 2016 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ari-Sco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about moon in scorpio conjunct pluto in the 1st house ? I swear I can relate

I wish I can stop myself

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posted July 07, 2016 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for misspriss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It drives me crazy ha ha.

I know I am a Scorp, I dated a fellow Scorp once and he did this - it ended the relationship.

I don't do it...but drives me crazy when others do

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Kannon McAfee
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posted July 07, 2016 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by misspriss:
This is my pet hate...being Scorpio everything, I like to "know" and when people withdraw/ shut down I really don't like it.

Which aspects do you think this is common for?


Asc or Moon in water signs. Asc/Moon in hard aspect to Saturn/Pluto. Heavy Lunar/Venusian charts.

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posted July 07, 2016 06:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus.

not necessarily withdraw.

just get away from you.

P.S. I'm Scorpio dominant too.

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posted July 07, 2016 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeeMonroe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Asc or Moon in water signs. Asc/Moon in hard aspect to Saturn/Pluto. Heavy Lunar/Venusian charts.


Asc in Scorpio, Moon conjunct Saturn

Whenever I'm feeling very sensitive or emotional, I isolate myself and do a lot of heavy brooding

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posted July 08, 2016 06:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn in Cancer in H11, and Pisces Sun in H8.

I will often withdraw if I feel the interaction is too draining, or if I feel that the person is prodding too much into my personal life or feelings I don't think they've earned the trust to hear about.

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posted July 08, 2016 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for misspriss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What happens after you are done withdrawing? what can help you to come out of it?

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posted July 08, 2016 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I withdraw. I used to stay that way as long as necessary, but I can't do that, anymore.

Scorpio ascendant, conjunct Uranus. I guess I'm sort of like a Jack in the Box, with my Aries Sun, and Gemini Moon/Venus, too.

I've been quieter recently, and at the hospital, if my dad is with mum, and I'm in the waiting room or cafeteria, I'll watch something on my tablet, to shut out the noise/conversations.

I've disappeared when people were causing trouble, or if I think I'm bothering people. But I know that my own energy is affected by others, and I've been trying to separate myself for a while now. Recent experiences have reminded me just how much I'm picking up from others, without being fully aware of who or what.

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posted July 08, 2016 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio Ascendant with 8th house Moon opposite Pluto and 4th house stellium in Aqua, withdrawal can be a specialty.

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posted July 08, 2016 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have a Moon conjunct the 8th house cusp, and Venus, and Mercury square Saturn. Saturn also squares my Pluto and Jupiter - Pluto being my chart ruler.

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posted July 08, 2016 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for -Chelsey-     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm the queen at withdrawing and shutting people out.

I have Moon in Pisces, Pluto in Scorpio 1st house, and I'm sure my Aqua Sun doesn't help either haha

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posted July 08, 2016 11:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by misspriss:
What happens after you are done withdrawing? what can help you to come out of it?

Usually, it's a person I withdraw from, not life in general (although I'm a bit of a recluse to begin with, to some degree).

It doesn't take much for me to withdraw from people individually, but when I do reach that point with people, it takes a bit for me to willingly interact with them again.

There has to be some demonstration that they're not going to do whatever it was that caused me to back off to begin with.

Things that cause me to withdraw from people are too much energy/drama, if they're constantly complaining about things that I think they should take some responsibility for to change, or if I feel put on the spot too often with nosy questions, etc.

Or, as I have Pluto in H3, I will usually cut ties with people whose political beliefs really offend me. I realize that's not particularly open minded, but...whatever. I can't be bothered with the amount of anger and passion that boils up in me when I have to argue politics with someone.

For example, with family members... I will back way off from interacting with them if they push politics or personal questions at me (I have a few members who seem to enjoy doing this). My personal life is my personal life, and if I want to talk about it, I will.

If, after a bit of time has passed, we can have a fun, light-hearted interaction with each other, I will be pretty happy to hang out with them again, although usually still a bit wary.

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posted July 08, 2016 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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AmelieRose81
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posted July 08, 2016 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AmelieRose81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by meyray:
Ironically Scorpios are kings in this lol

hell yes. just experiencing this.

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BeholdAstarte
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posted July 08, 2016 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeholdAstarte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
all fixed signs in my opinion.
+water signs

Aquarius/Uranus shuts down in confrontation or any situation they do not want to deal with. can be very cold and stubborn
Ive noticed leo can do the same but it comes from a different place, one of my best friends is a leo, with his leo moon conj sun with cancer rising so maybe its why he withdraws also.. but if he is insulted in anyway or someone is rude or maybe just "harmless" criticism, he will just be silent and walk away or being entirely cold, completely withdraws into himself then later regrets it because he doesn't like showing that others effect him due to his pride.

scorpio/pluto when really hurt will be cold as ice too, or when the emotions are getting too intense theres a need to withdraw otherwise they will lash out with sharp words, them like all the water signs I think need space to recenter their emotions, so they withdraw. especially to protect themselves..

Taurus can hold a grudge a give the silent treatment for a loooong time too.. when I was 14 I got in trouble and hung up on my Taurus uncle.. man, he probably held that against me for 6+ years.. until we finally talked about it and I explained to him what had happened to me that day and why I did what I did. My scorpio mom with Taurus cusp moon too will never forget a slight, doesn't matter how many years its been either, they both will give the silent treatment/ act like you don't even exist. the emotions are just as strong as when they were received.

the moon/cancer.. which should be slightly obvious just my cancers symbolism, is a very self protecting sign/planet and will withdraw into itself when harshed or just to protect itself and their vulnerable emotions in general, whether they are withdrawing to numb their emotions or they are feeling them all too intensely. my little brother is a cancer, his moon is in 0 pisces conj Uranus at 28 aqua making him an extra weirdo.. lol jk but when he was younger.. and he still does this.. whenever he would get into a fight with one of his friends or my little sister (his aries rising!! with mars/Jupiter in cancer on his IC) or anyone was mean to him, he would go and hide in the corner of his closet and refuse to talk to anyone until he was ready to. he still does this. he hides when hes angry or upset.literally. but he had this one secret hiding spot he would go into every once in a while where no one could find him.. hed be in there for a long time. its crucial for that lil dude. he needs his alone time <3 poor feels!! haha

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posted August 29, 2020 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon in Scorpio
Moon in the 8th house
Moon/Pluto aspects

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posted August 29, 2020 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm an animadvert.

Sometimes transits influence this I feel. Uranus is transiting my 12th house.
This transit is giving me an attitude of "does anyone mind if I just MIND MY OWN BUSINESS!?"

I withdraw if I am just not vibing with a person, and I've tried. And when I am not talking or putting effort in anymore. It really makes a statement to people. It usually gives the person the message of."I have tried, and you give me nothing to work with, so it's your turn to try now if my silence makes you uncomfortable."

I also "shut down" if someone is just so overbearing and I have to work with them, and I don't want to go there with how annoyed they are making me feel.

So if I am withdrawn it is either because I am POed. I am only happy quiet if I had an "edible." I am also quiet if I just woke up even on the weekends.

Dating is a whole other thing. I have got to a place where I can be comfortable in dating/relationships with out communicating for a whole day. I use to freak out if I didn't get attention for four hours in the past.
Well in my relationship my fiance has a lot of "detached" elements. Mostly earth and then air. Pluto is the only water in their chart. Sun and IC, and S.Node is the only fire.
My thing that gets to me is staring at phones on food dates. I eat ice cream very slow so when he is done he would stare at his phone....like scrolling reddit. I finally blurted out "What is so G**d*** important!?"
I've gotten the message across in calmer ways too. Like I told him I don't want to come with him to dog sit at his sisters over the weekend, and that I prefer to be in my own place in my free time. He look it personal. I finally said "that's funny that you want me there, because usually when I go over there with you just look at your phone the whole time."
So these days the style of withdrawing that peeves me the most is starring at a phone too much. There is a time and a place. It sends a message of I am invisible or you are invisible. I think if you do spend a lot of time around a person it's okay to look at the phone a little bit, I know I need to. But in a social setting, or even at home for hours on end is insulting to the other person. I like to stare at my phone too, but how can people spend half of their day looking at a phone!?

I have Scorpio Moon Conjunct Pluto
Mercury in the 12th house
Neptune and Uranus in the 8th house.

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posted August 29, 2020 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My friend with:
Cancer Sun, Mercury, Venus.
Aries Moon
Leo Mars,
Does this thing. Where if I am not seeming present enough when she talking she does this thing where she gets a tad snippy "well I've got to get going!" "okay" and then she will start talking about something else. And I'm kind of like what the hell? It's annoying, and it doesn't guilt me for not seeming present enough. Because she can talk and talk and "say nothing" really.
She also gets mad if I multitask on the phone with her. One time there was water under my sink and I couldn't keep it too my self how gross it was, while I was trying to clean it up. Total passive aggressive tone of "well I'm going let you get going. It seems like you have a lot going on with your sink"
Like she seriously makes me feel like a dude dealing with a chick sometimes. And she expects me to go "duhhh, oh crap. WAIT. You are sooo special"

If I also don't give her enough attention she sends me texts about how she just bought alcohol.

I could also tell she was mad that I had to end talking with her because my boss was calling me.

I also learned today that her meds are clashing with her birth control. And the time period of the meds and birth control was around the time she started getting super clingy towards me. I wanted to say yeah you have been acting really weird since you started doing that. But instead I said I really hope you get that sorted out.

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A lot of things have already been mentioned... but something I‘ve personally noticed is... having the more sociable planets - Mercury and Venus - retrograde... or totally unaspected in the natal chart.

When there are very close, significant aspects to these planets in the synastry chart... this kind of withdrawal and introversion can be overcome to a degree.

The person might have a strong desire to connect and communicate, but it feels like an uphill battle. The friend or partner who has nice synastry with them can draw them out of their shell. However, this will be pretty difficult, even for them...

Someone who doesn’t have close synastry aspects with the individual’s natal Venus and/or Mercury Rx (or unaspected)— can see them almost like an alien from outer space... as though they could never really connect, because the person seems so unreachable.

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posted September 01, 2020 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe Scorpio and/or Pluto in 5th or 7th.

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posted September 01, 2020 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
A lot of things have already been mentioned... but something I‘ve personally noticed is... having the more sociable planets - Mercury and Venus - retrograde... or totally unaspected in the natal chart.

When there are very close, significant aspects to these planets in the synastry chart... this kind of withdrawal and introversion can be overcome to a degree.

The person might have a strong desire to connect and communicate, but it feels like an uphill battle. The friend or partner who has nice synastry with them can draw them out of their shell. However, this will be pretty difficult, even for them...

Someone who doesn’t have close synastry aspects with the individual’s natal Venus and/or Mercury Rx (or unaspected)— can see them almost like an alien from outer space... as though they could never really connect, because the person seems so unreachable.


This kind of describes me. I have Saturn square Mercury, Jupiter, and Pluto (the ruler of my chart), all widely. Moon conjunct Venus and the South Node, square Mars in Pisces (generally quiet/calm), trine Pluto, sextile Jupiter, inconjunct Uranus/ascendant. I was outgoing until a certain age, and Pluto crossing my ascendant didn't help.

I now fight against the urge to withdraw, but I probably shouldn't. I need time to myself, I need to be able to shut things out for a while.

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