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Topic: Most difficult square to have?
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Empty Spaces
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posted July 17, 2016 08:52 PM
  
SulkyarcherSorry to hear that.Im sending you positive vibes dear  Sylven
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Electro DGX
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posted July 19, 2016 09:55 AM
I've been thinking about Mercury-Saturn hard aspects and man, they are sh*t!! They also happen to be so contradictory, yet extremely difficult to handle. ------------------
Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, Neptune
Scorpio Mars conj. Asc in First
8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine Uranus
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theunknown
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posted July 19, 2016 05:20 PM
moon square pluto
venus square pluto
mars square neptune
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Mergoatsun
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posted July 19, 2016 05:33 PM
It all depends on the person and what they find personally to be suffering.One of my most hated squares is Sun square Chiron, that one just sucks the big one. It's contributed to my depression and makes me wonder and question if life is worth living. ------------------
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Sandra018
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posted July 19, 2016 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by Lucia23:
If I were making a list of the worst squares to have in a natal chart, i don't think any Mars-Venus squares would make the list. They can cause a sexy, intriguing kind of friction in the chart that isn't always bad. They would only make the list if you add a heavy-hitter planet into the dynamic and make it a T-square. I have Moon square Pluto natally at a slightly-wide orb. It's not so bad. Yes, my emotions go up to eleven and stay there, and I have no emotional self-regulation (at least not internally--Cap rising and Moon-Saturn conjunction give me outer dignity in public), but it's been great for my creative work. The worst square in my chart is a my Aries Chiron-Cancer Venus-Libra Uranus t-square, and it's much more awful when something is hitting the Chiron in synastry or transits. The worst, most painful aspect in my chart is a conjunction (Moon-Saturn in Cancer, 7th house)--my expressions of my moon are painfully restricted. Luckily, i don't have Saturn-Pluto square natally---it's out of orb. Here are the Astro squares I think are worst, based on people whose lives I know well whose charts I've seen: -Sun square Saturn
-Pluto square Saturn
-Chiron square Venus
-Moon square Uranus
-Mars square Saturn (fixed signs most gruesome with daddy issues)
BIngo!! agreed on all your points.
in addition,
i was wondering why no one has mentioned Pluto sq Saturn and Saturn sq Mars before.
those are very heavy. i know a person with Pluto sq Saturn and the energy is pretty heavy and destrutive, but stubborn in his beliefs.
i would add- Pluto sq Moon, for intensity.
Neptune when its bad, can be tough, in a sense the invidiuals feel lost/no direction.
Saturn sq Venus is a tough one as well-
Saturn sq Moon-tough relationship with mother..
Pluto sq Mars- destructive, explosive...no joke.
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BeholdAstarte
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posted July 20, 2016 04:34 PM
I would imagine planets that rule violence (mars/pluto) making squares to angles and the moon/sun can be very difficult since it would extend to the environment in early life. also, just mars squaring pluto can be violent.. and I would add Saturn squares..since Saturn can represent neglect and abandomment.. its hard to say which would be worse.. and to be honest conj sometimes seem pretty equally intense.. esp when all three of these planets are involved.. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
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posted July 20, 2016 05:18 PM
As to the article, I disagree with the premises expressed in the first two paragraphs, that this is the 'most difficult' square, and that Mars in Gemini is a bad fit.Slower moving outer planet squares are more challenging because they involve the growth of evolutionary and perceptual change. Venus-Mars deal in basic creative energies. Not nearly as difficult. As to you, saadsarah8, you'll get better handling it as you get older, as we all do IF we seek balance. So don't worry about it, but find how your creative energy wants to express itself. This is a creative aspect that may not easily focus in one area, but in which you need an outlet that has a detailed focus, something that can engross your involvement in particulars, layers, or that involves variance and communication. ------------------
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Radium
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posted July 20, 2016 05:24 PM
Sun square Pluto
Jupiter Square Saturn (0'27 degree extremely tight)Saturn is 6 degrees conjunct my Sun so I also have Saturn Square Pluto but honestly I have the tools to handle these Now I have Moon square Asc (1 degree)
Mercury square Asc (3 degrees) These are can be tricky You all know the ascendant rules are appearance and how we come off to the world. My voice, body language, communication and inner feelings are battling so I look unrthodox and offbeat. This really shows when I'm with girls because unfortunately they don't like seeing your moon (soft) side and I'm an open book..mercury can be bad at times but as long as I stay confident his square is easy (Sun Trine ASC nearly exact off by 0'04 degrees IP: Logged |
Sylven
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posted July 21, 2016 04:36 AM
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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
Sylven
Shes young,you can help her to deal it and she will be okay
Thanks!! She will! She is a power house! And thanks Elysia!! Sweetness! 
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Ari-Sco
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posted July 21, 2016 04:40 AM
Mercury square Chiron
Venus square Uranus
Sun square Saturn
Sun square Neptune
Sun square UranusIs it bad enough yet ?  IP: Logged |
LexusVirgo
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posted July 21, 2016 04:43 AM
Venus square Saturn or Pluto in synastry and in natal.In natal they both make you feel unloved. In synastry Venus square Saturn dangles Somone in front of you you really like it can't have.. It's awful. In Venus square Pluto Venus does anything to get plutos attention and Pluto sometimes gives in or sometimes not.. IP: Logged |
colorful butterfly
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From: Durham north carolina usa
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posted July 21, 2016 11:29 PM
I have mars square saturn. Explosive with words and a temper, leaves me melancholy and misunderstood at times but people who know me know I mean well even when I'm really mad.IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher
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posted July 22, 2016 04:14 AM
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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
SulkyarcherSorry to hear that.Im sending you positive vibes dear Sylven
Shes young,you can help her to deal it and she will be okay
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Sulkyarcher
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posted July 22, 2016 04:21 AM
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I've been thinking about Mercury-Saturn hard aspects and man, they are sh*t!! They also happen to be so contradictory, yet extremely difficult to handle.
Mercury/Saturn? Do you have troubles communicating, or talking?
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teasel
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posted July 22, 2016 04:24 AM
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I've been thinking about Mercury-Saturn hard aspects and man, they are sh*t!! They also happen to be so contradictory, yet extremely difficult to handle.
Yep. Also, Saturn square Pluto and Jupiter, is no picnic, although at times I think Jupiter and Saturn work well together in a square. IP: Logged |
Gracha
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From: NY USA
Registered: Jan 2013
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posted July 22, 2016 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
Sun square Moon is hard, I've heard.
I was going to say this because I have it. Head can't agree with the heart, add mercury squaring the sun. I love him i hate i love him, stay go....im learning that I have to be logical and not go on just feeling. When I analyze situations i'm deadly accurate till its scary. Gemini moon in 12th house conjunct north node. Im finally learning to sort through the facts and detail.
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visions
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posted July 22, 2016 09:32 AM
by order of curse :1) mars square saturn : everything meant to fail even before taking any steps or action so people with mars square saturn doesn't act because "it won't work" mindset
2) mars square pluto: very very evil aspect and killer instinct, sadism, desire for destruction, death wish, commit crime
3) mars square neptune : dreamers, procrastination, addict to drugs, game etc...liars, dishonesty, treachery, cheaters. I have this aspect !! I think a really great chart can however give the goodness of this square because there is a lot of good thing from mars square neptune as it gives a very good motricity to the body : soccer player chritiano ronaldo has it, phenomenal dribbler, magician with the ball, or inspired singer like charles aznavour, great movie productor like steven speilberg etc...lot of inspiration.
4) mercury square saturn : failure when speaking, aborting all the luck by opening mouth, hurting with word, negative thoughts, depressive and pessimistic thinking, wrong moves, etc...i think mercury square jupiter is pretty bad too.
5)venus square saturn : is really hard because bad luck in finding true love, keeping mate, long lasting relationship etc...but i think i prefer venus square saturn a lot from the ones i listed above, i have venus in opposition to saturn and i have had hard times in love affair and i live with the idea i will never be very fortunate in this department but as i age there is like a frienddly fate attitude who give me lightness that i really like and also lot of freedom. IP: Logged |
Astra
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posted July 22, 2016 01:19 PM
Imagine having moon square pluto while having venus squaring your moon and opposing your pluto! It's not fun. Lol. Don't stress about venus square mars. Venus-mars aspects can definitely make you more sexually attractive, which isn't a bad thing.What you have to learn with venus-mars squares is to stop blowing up over every little thing in relationships. This aspect alone indicates short outburst in relationships, which can definitely cause problems seeing as how dealing with short-tempered people can be exhausting after a while. Fortunately, you will learn to control this as you mature and learn to channel that aggressive energy into something more productive. Try to play a sport or participate in a hobby that makes you work with your hands. Learning to meditate also is helpful. Some of the people I know with the happiest marriages are ones with venus-mars squares. You are only 21....so it is unlikely that you will master this aspect at your age. You still have a lot of growing to do, so don't worry about it. IP: Logged |
sandrainny31
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posted July 22, 2016 07:46 PM
Sun square Uranus is pretty bad, can't stay in any relationship, moving quickly from one to another one. It's terrible.I also have an exact square Mars Pluto, I can't say anything bad about this aspect, only positive things, it gives me a lot of energy. Not even close to any violence, maybe because I am a woman. IP: Logged |
visions
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From: france
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posted July 23, 2016 03:28 AM
a woman with mars square pluto attract violent and agressive man, like a projection of their own repressed anger...the can be beated too. A more lived mars square pluto in woman lead to dominatrix mindset.IP: Logged |
saadsarah8
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From: Ottawa, Canada
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 23, 2016 03:48 AM
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Originally posted by Astra:
Imagine having moon square pluto while having venus squaring your moon and opposing your pluto! It's not fun. Lol. Don't stress about venus square mars. Venus-mars aspects can definitely make you more sexually attractive, which isn't a bad thing.What you have to learn with venus-mars squares is to stop blowing up over every little thing in relationships. This aspect alone indicates short outburst in relationships, which can definitely cause problems seeing as how dealing with short-tempered people can be exhausting after a while. Fortunately, you will learn to control this as you mature and learn to channel that aggressive energy into something more productive. Try to play a sport or participate in a hobby that makes you work with your hands. Learning to meditate also is helpful. Some of the people I know with the happiest marriages are ones with venus-mars squares. You are only 21....so it is unlikely that you will master this aspect at your age. You still have a lot of growing to do, so don't worry about it.
What you said here is very true! And thank you so much for your encouraging words :]
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Sylven
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posted July 23, 2016 05:23 AM
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Originally posted by sandrainny31:
Sun square Uranus is pretty bad, can't stay in any relationship, moving quickly from one to another one. It's terrible.
Not true. I am sure for someone having mucho Uranus energy going on (like me) it is more difficult to stay in a relationship than people with a different chart set up. My sister has Ur sq Sun and she is in a long term relationship. She was never a hopper. I was. I wouldn't say it's due to that aspect alone. It means I can't stand to feel limited and was getting bored but also due to choices of partners made too quickly. I grew up. Don't have this anymore but only because I chose the 'right' partner. I can still feel limited but it's something I need to work on.
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next to neptune
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posted July 25, 2016 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by Sylven:
Not true. I am sure for someone having mucho Uranus energy going on (like me) it is more difficult to stay in a relationship than people with a different chart set up. My sister has Ur sq Sun and she is in a long term relationship. She was never a hopper. I was. I wouldn't say it's due to that aspect alone. It means I can't stand to feel limited and was getting bored but also due to choices of partners made too quickly. I grew up. Don't have this anymore but only because I chose the 'right' partner. I can still feel limited but it's something I need to work on.
The "funny" thing with this aspect is, that isn't it almost nothing that makes you feel trapped? I mean the normal average human being has no problem with some sort of commitment, but with sun square uranus or venus square uranus, it's like ANY sort of commitment is a big issue... it's almost a bit too much. IP: Logged |
Kibriana
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From: Zagreb, Croatia
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posted July 25, 2016 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
Moon square Neptune
Depression much?
More like escapism much, at least that's how I feel it. IP: Logged |
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