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visions
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posted July 18, 2016 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hello,

pluto will enter my 5th house january 2017 with the new year. The last 10 years with pluto on my 4th house was just awful...very hard and every single cluster about how was my structure before pluto enter in the 4rth was just deleted and it will never be the same after pluto left the 4rth. Pluto has its way to make crumble your illusion or what you thought in your life that is good for you or really supportive, actually is not...

So, with pluto ingress in 5th house, i may seriously ask myself about having children but i am more thinking about my expression because i will probably do a phd so it deals with creativity but not sure yet because of money concerns. Love will matters but love is sth too much uncompatible with my life and how i am so i will to face myself with romantic relationship even it's so boring to waste my time to think on this matter.

So i would like ot hear stories about what's the change you notices when pluto enter the 5th house ? how was your transit of pluto in the 5th, plz speak about the aspect it did by transit with your natal planet.

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posted July 18, 2016 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 10 yr old has a 5th house stellium. Pluto is/will be conjunct her Sun/Mercury/Venus. She's not dealing with adult issues and these are my observations so this is somewhat limited..

She's the "baby", and has always loved that role in the family. No one puts too much pressure on her to be serious or responsible. And if she just continued being cute, we might never have thought to hold her accountable (a parenting failure on my part), but Pluto aspecting her natals has gotten all of our attention.

She experiments with lying, storytelling, fibs, practical jokes. Her wit is sharper than ever- probably an inevitable development in her growth, but there is also a measure of severity in her humor and wit, that she almost seems compelled to express. She's shared some paranoid fears with me; like she thinks her siblings are plotting against her (now if she'd said it was the government I might have entertained it). Pluto was sitting directly on her Mercury at the time. She's much calmer now.

Something interesting is she reminds me sometimes of children who suffer trauma from war. They still love to laugh and play. They just play differently. You see deep human fears, pain, and grief in their play. In that way it's like Pluto is creating a warzone in the world of games. All of my children are untrained artists and her work has improve immensely.

The way I deal with my daughter is to let her talk of course. Also when she does things that hurt other people, I focus on the pain and injustice to the other people. There's no point in trying to correct her for her "wrongs", on principle. She can't seem to hear it. What she hears now is a call to balance and justice, and that's it...I guess that's all there needs to be.

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posted July 20, 2016 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemmi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Visions,

You can find more info on tr Pluto in the 5th house in this thread:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/230307.html

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posted July 21, 2016 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah i read all the topic about 5th plutot transit on the net and yet i feel it lacks something.

on a blog, someone said he has a lot of hard stuff going on in his love affair, like jealousy, rivalry, manipulation through love, obsession, danger with extreme sex and sexual disease, hard to manage oversexual impulse and urge etc...sound more correct.

Other speak about his way to express, HOW HE AFFIRMED HIMSELF especially during transit pluto in the Vth house: that's what i want to hear about that transit. People miss Vth house is how you affirm yourself. As i have saturn conjunct ascendant,pluto in the Vth can really help me to improve self confidence etc...

but here is the problem :

- transiting pluto trine my ascendant(15°virgo)
- transiting pluto enter Vth house(18° cappy) january 2017
- at the same time transiting pluto square natal pluto = self-confidence lost, risky behaviour and desperate measure to be in love ? chosing any partner to have sex ?
- just after transiting pluto sextile natal uranus in the 3rd = i think it will be related to my phd thesis if i do one, and possible sex appeal with many "love at first sight" ?

plus i have a lot of sexualtone heavy transit :
- uranus transit my 8th house since 2 years now
- natal 8th chiron transit my natal mars which rules my 8th house...
- neptune enter my 7th house : fantasy

But i dread all this bunck of transit because it unfold unconscious pattern that could reveal self-destructive after the transit when you engaged in relationship that finally were bad for your health, psychically etc...

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posted July 21, 2016 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemmi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it’s very hard to predict how a transiting planet will operate in natal house.
Probably not all issues associated with tr Pluto in 5th house (children, love affairs, obsessions, new hobbies, gambling fever, sports, creative or artistic endeavors, extreme sex etc) will take place during the course of this transit. There might be one or two dominant themes.

I know three people in my close environment who have been going through this transit for some time. In all cases, the issues of children and new hobbies (especially sports) are more emphasized. My brother, for example, was never interested in sports before this transit started. Now he is doing a lot of sport, sometimes really overdoing it… The Sun, the natural ruler of the 5th house is about physical activity after all and Pluto is about extremes…

Sometimes a transit through natal house affect only one specific area and not all issues associated with the house. For example, Neptune transiting my 6th house completely eroded my daily routine and negatively affected my daily work and career. But it didn’t bring any health issues to my life and when I had health problems they were temporary and pretty harmless.

Sometimes a passage through natal house has no affects at all….I have been going through Uranus transiting my 8th house for the last 4 years and I have so far experienced absolutely NO issues regarding shared resources, taxes, changes of attitude towards sex and death etc., even if Uranus has made several important transits to my natal planets from this house. This transit will be over in 2 years so something might still happen but the manifestation of this transit has still been pretty quiet...

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posted July 31, 2016 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have read something interesting about a 5th pluto experience, it talks about obsession but especially we have to be cautious with manipulation, we have to not let us being manipulated by people eand we must avoid manipulating other people.

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posted November 12, 2016 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so how's virgo rising from 80s doing so far with pluto transiting the 5th ?

or other who experienced pluto transiting the 5th house are welcome to share their own history of that period of their life.

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posted November 12, 2016 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fell in love with 2 scorpio suns during this transit.

Gave birth to a kid, but I have moon in 5th house.

Pluto is now on the cusp of my 6th house and will move in for the last time. 6th house pluto transit about to begin.

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posted November 12, 2016 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey thanks bumblebee for your contribution.

I read another thread where someone said that :

"I worked with children for the entire transit, didn't date (strict upbringing) but definitely felt my personal magnetism double.
Attracted a lot of Scorpionic situations where I could literally feel the violent thoughts directed at me just by being in near proximity to some men.
Made and destroyed a whole bunch of Plutonic friendships. Not one survived. "
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/227525.html


this is very interesting and very related to the scorpionic relationship you talked about.

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posted November 12, 2016 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AwakenSky16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Hello Vision, I agree with the explanations given here cause it was/is right for me (My Tpluton is now in the last part of my 5th)

So in order :
- At first : I worked with children and finish
- Fall in love deeply
- Have succeded with my studdies and have new degree.

Actually, my Tpluton is on my mercury conjunct my osiris/isis and vertex exactly... I can't really think this well (if someone can tell me more… Ami if you read here ?) but I can notice that during last years/months :
- I try meditation then pratice yoga and do sport like ever before.
- I have met (and "lost")someone new very important for me(soulmate or more...) and also very scorpionic, (and felt very scorpionic with him , my Pluto/venus active !). During this time, I was so well, cause I feel a great and magical energy. It sounds like I had an unbelievable heart chakra awaken (Kundalini probably ?),
- I lost a lot of weight very quickly without make diet.
- I try to understand all these events very obsessively and came back to astrology and found LL !
- At the end, I realize that my needs of love and emotional communication were not fulfilled and that it had killed my relationship...

I feel like I am in a process that must run until its end (Pluto !)(without talk about Tsaturn...)
All my landmarks are down, I feel pushed irremediably towards...?

You will definitely have a lot to tell over the next 5-10-15… years ... see how long your 5th is

I hope this help you a little...
Others experiences are wellcome

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posted November 12, 2016 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
awesome ! thanks awakenSky16

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posted November 12, 2016 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AwakenSky16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by visions:
awesome ! thanks awakenSky16

You are welcome Vision !

@bumblebee : I am interesting to hear about Tpluto in 6th... Have you got some planets here ? If you have some informations, I take it right

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posted November 12, 2016 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted November 12, 2016 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
tPluto 4H-I left country only to return 19 years later
tPluto 5H-I was off the charts in a drug, alcohol and sexual induced oblivion. That actually sums it up pretty darn well!

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posted November 13, 2016 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Awekensky, hi!

I find very little information about pluto in 6th and mostly about changing habits, taking more care about health etc. Boring!

I've already have pretty healthy regimen and I am not planning to become vegan or something like this.

I don't have planets in 6th but the great conjunction of pluto saturn and jupiter on 20-22 capricorn will square my venus and I am not happy abut it.

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posted November 13, 2016 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Damn, there is a lot of negative feedback about transting pluto in the 5th house.

my 4th house pluto transit has been just pure Hell whereas pluto transit the 3rd was so awesome...

i was pretty sure that pluto will be easier, and especially LIGHTER compared to heavy 4th water house... or could bring more joy(as 5th house= joy)

i am upset.

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posted November 13, 2016 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AwakenSky16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by visions:
Damn, there is a lot of negative feedback about transting pluto in the 5th house.
[...]
i was pretty sure that pluto will be easier, and especially LIGHTER compared to heavy 4th water house... or could bring more joy(as 5th house= joy)
i am upset.


Keep a little optimism here. The T is long. It is a process ... Leave the old one for the new. There is never only the trouble, the joys are always there to light the way. Life is a long experience with stages of growth and evolution. The more difficult points certainly participate in our spiritual awakening ... I try to see the positive to all this. You can succeed for yourself, Pluto is transforming deeply for better ... A positive note again: during this transit I obtained the success of new Degrees that participated in my personal growth and improve my working conditions. (5th is also about creativity…)
So believe: Pluton is on transformations (synonyms Adaptation, improvement, change, change, evolution, innovation, metamorphosis, modification, reconversion, renewal) this talk about something different and not necessarily bad at the end if you grow up. You will know once the process is completed ...

Find this for you (phd thesis…)Transit Pluto Sextile Uranus
During this present cycle, you'll look for ways to open up the creative areas of your life and make changes that allow you to express your true identity out in the world. You understand the need to work in harmony with external forces that are out of your control, such as political or cultural movements. You have a great desire to learn and explore the world around you and may initiate an educational project, or work to effect change in the way society operates. You have great inner clarity and can make plans for your future, and may discover a wealth of internal or external resources you didn't realize you had. This will make it somewhat easier to effect the major changes you're looking for in your life, as you have more confidence in the future. You're less radical in your efforts and won't feel the need to completely disrupt your life in order to find more personal freedom. (/www.thefutureminders.com).
Look on this link pluto/pluto too
Sorry I am not so good in interpretations aspects to tell you more by myself…


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posted November 13, 2016 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it's just that my pluto square pluto begin when pluto will enter the 5th so self-asking around sexual matters, having children will surface and i will have to face it.

but yeah in the same time as pluto retrogrades and going on he will do also some nice aspect especially when he will be end of capricorn at this moment jupiter and saturn will be in capricorn also.

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posted November 13, 2016 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AwakenSky16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Bumblebee : sorry, I erased my reply because I had not understood great conjunct pluto/saturn/jupiter... It's ok now.

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posted November 13, 2016 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AwakenSky16:
Keep a little optimism here. The T is long. It is a process ... Leave the old one for the new. There is never only the trouble, the joys are always there to light the way. Life is a long experience with stages of growth and evolution. The more difficult points certainly participate in our spiritual awakening ... I try to see the positive to all this. You can succeed for yourself, Pluto is transforming deeply for better ... A positive note again: during this transit I obtained the success of new Degrees that participated in my personal growth and improve my working conditions. (5th is also about creativity…)

So believe: Pluton is on transformations (synonyms Adaptation, improvement, change, change, evolution, innovation, metamorphosis, modification, reconversion, renewal) this talk about something different and not necessarily bad at the end if you grow up. You will know once the process is completed ...

Find this for you (phd thesis…)Transit Pluto Sextile Uranus

During this present cycle, you'll look for ways to open up the creative areas of your life and make changes that allow you to express your true identity out in the world. You understand the need to work in harmony with external forces that are out of your control, such as political or cultural movements. You have a great desire to learn and explore the world around you and may initiate an educational project, or work to effect change in the way society operates. You have great inner clarity and can make plans for your future, and may discover a wealth of internal or external resources you didn't realize you had. This will make it somewhat easier to effect the major changes you're looking for in your life, as you have more confidence in the future. You're less radical in your efforts and won't feel the need to completely disrupt your life in order to find more personal freedom. (/www.thefutureminders.com).


This fits my experience.

But that said, I was a kid with a 5H stellium (and it was most intense when transiting Pluto aligned with this stellium that included Mars-Uranus, and sextile to sun and 3H stellium, including natal Pluto). I consider it very unlikely that you'd have a comparable experience.

My advice, based on my own experiences, is learn to shape your own fate (I'd say be creative, but I'm not sure if it was that way for me because Pluto transited my 5H, because of my stellium there, or because of childhood experiences that taught me creativity could help me survive)...and, most important, that the one you have power over is in yourself, and that's where you should focus it. It's not about domination/submission to others, but about your own will. Unfortunately, society doesn't promote that idea as its a threat to those who want to control you, or at least assimilate you into the tribe, and it's hard to explain when I don't know your personal context and how you understand things. But then I can't imagine Pluto would allow anyone else to give you a cheat sheet anyway, each of us probably have our own individual tests and lessons to learn.

And after Pluto left my 5H completely, I did assimilate somewhat into society, but I did it on my terms rather than having it imposed on me.

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posted December 20, 2016 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i read somewhere that people saw their sex-appeal and magnetism increased during this transit, for those who experimented pluto transit in their 5th house, is it true ?

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posted December 20, 2016 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
My 10 yr old has a 5th house stellium. Pluto is/will be conjunct her Sun/Mercury/Venus. She's not dealing with adult issues and these are my observations so this is somewhat limited..

She's the "baby", and has always loved that role in the family. No one puts too much pressure on her to be serious or responsible. And if she just continued being cute, we might never have thought to hold her accountable (a parenting failure on my part), but Pluto aspecting her natals has gotten all of our attention.

She experiments with lying, storytelling, fibs, practical jokes. Her wit is sharper than ever- probably an inevitable development in her growth, but there is also a measure of severity in her humor and wit, that she almost seems compelled to express. She's shared some paranoid fears with me; like she thinks her siblings are plotting against her (now if she'd said it was the government I might have entertained it). Pluto was sitting directly on her Mercury at the time. She's much calmer now.

Something interesting is she reminds me sometimes of children who suffer trauma from war. They still love to laugh and play. They just play differently. You see deep human fears, pain, and grief in their play. In that way it's like Pluto is creating a warzone in the world of games. All of my children are untrained artists and her work has improve immensely.

The way I deal with my daughter is to let her talk of course. Also when she does things that hurt other people, I focus on the pain and injustice to the other people. There's no point in trying to correct her for her "wrongs", on principle. She can't seem to hear it. What she hears now is a call to balance and justice, and that's it...I guess that's all there needs to be.


I just want to mention that this sounds similar to my daughter. She has Sun square Pluto and Mercury sextile Pluto. She can be quite paranoid and always thinks her friends are talking about her. You cannot get a lie past her, at all. She just knows.

She has lied, but always confesses to me, even if its much later. She has Moon opposite Saturn, so there can be a seriousness to her. She is 9 and an only child. I let her talk too. She is Mercurial. I do the same thing when she says or does something hurtful, explain the pain and injustice also. I am Libra ruled (and she is a Libra), so I preach fairness.

Anyways, it was nice to hear about something similar

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posted February 05, 2017 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Visions!!

We have the exact same degr Asc and 5th house cusp almost. Mine is 18 dgrs. I THINK I FEEL IT!! Creepy almost but exciting at the same time.

So how are you doing? Do you feel Pluto there as well? I cannot put it into words.

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posted February 05, 2017 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes i feel it a lot ! like big inner shift of feeling and energies.

i am like excited, and also feeling lighter than the heavy emotional 4th house, but the feeling is just lowered because of transiting saturn making a square to my natal mercury-mars conjunction...

so i have a lot of mixed and waving moods but i can defintely feel the 5th house fun piercing over the Transiting saturn burden feelings trend.

but i am also very cautious with the pluto square pluto transit. I will say i am just harassing myself with a lot of existantial question and unresolved conflicts in love affair from the past haunting me questionning my feelings. I am afraid also by outward events that could hit me just to hurt my feelings with the square, blast from the past, or drama with 5th house pluto stuff and i don't want that to happen now i want to take fun. I hope the sextile from transiting pluto to natal uranus will help me to remain higly independant and detached from every encounter from the past or people who wants to drag me in bad drama stuff.i insist on that because pluto square pluto and neptune approaching the 7th house can give situations like that. But i have also transiting neptune making a sextile to my natal moon so not so bad for romance but surely i will have crazy ones if anything occurs.


TRY TO TELL ME HOW YOU LIVE THIS TRANSIT PLEASE WITH YOUR WORDS PLS EVEN IF IT'S AWKWARD I WILL BE VERY HAPPY TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON PLS.

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posted February 05, 2017 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ey!! Sqr's don't come to hurt you!

Awesome how you feel the transits. I defo feel Pluto. Wow! This means my chart is exact! I guess...

I also have T. Pluto trine the ruler of 5th; Saturn! And T. Saturn is sq natal Pluto. Hmmm ...

I guess I need some more sinking into this.

Remember nothing outer happens when it's not inside. Be back later.

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