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Topic: Who`s the most shallow out of leo or libra?
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headintheclouds91 Knowflake Posts: 258 From: Registered: Mar 2016
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posted July 22, 2016 09:52 PM
IME these two are the top two most shallow signs i have ever met in my life. My friend with a leo venus and mars is suuuuper shallow and even admitted she likes pretty people. She had a hard time breaking up with her ex who cheated and treated her badly just bc she found him so handsome but she really wanted to break up but it was just too hard for her. She finally did it after months of misery She gets jealous of other girls that are pretty or have nice clothes too. Two males with the same placements as my friend gets jealous too of good looking men and gets very worried they might take all the attention from them just bc they look good. My libra sun moon and mercury friend will find it a turn off if a guy doesn`t dress well and have ugly shoes. She feels like a loser if she is alone in public and even needs to speak to someone on the phone when walking alone in public just to seem "cooler" and she finds people that do things alone to be kinda losers. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 8137 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 22, 2016 10:21 PM
The real question here, is which of your friends is the most shallow.I wonder how much is shallow, and how much is honesty? They sound like a lot of people (especially those under 20, but even plenty who are much older), but most people aren't likely to say it outright. They usually talk about "how he makes me feel" (hot, because he's hot looking) rather than outright how he looks. And people tend to gravitate to those with similar values (whether stated or not) as otherwise there wouldn't be much to bond them as friends, so maybe they're just saying what at least most of the rest of y'all can relate to, but know better than to say (fearing how it would make them look). Okay, the pretty boys sound unusual. I don't know how many guys would share such traits and just hide it well, but the idea of guys not liking someone because "he's better looking" was amusing to me. I'd guess they were rich kids who like to show off wealth with their beauty products and clothes, and perhaps seeing the girls all get hot for the pretty boy bands and want girls to get hot for them in the same way. Most guys wouldn't waste their time and money, unless it was for some identity affiliation with a faction or subculture, or for a sports team. In any case, I know Leos and Libras, and they're not as you describe them here (though perhaps they were as kids, don't know, but not all Libras and Leos were like that even as kids). I do know a teenager with a Libra moon and Mars (Cancer sun, Virgo ASC) who demands a guy "be presentable" with good clothes, hygiene, and manners (but she more likes the intelligent gentlemen type with ambition or a vision over shallow pretty boys), and it could be that color coordination is important to her (it wouldn't surprise me if by "dressing well" your friend means "with expensive labels" which isn't the same thing). She doesn't think she or anyone else must be with others (at least she says she doesn't to me), though she did go through a hard time being shunned at one point, but she didn't give in to the peer pressure and overcame. IP: Logged |
madelineleo23 Knowflake Posts: 158 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted July 22, 2016 10:22 PM
My dad has sun, mercury and mars in leo. He is pretty self-centered and he definitely likes attractive woman. He likes to point out flaws sometimes, but thats his venus in virgo talking. I was with someone who had mars in leo and he was very self-centered. He loved to be praised and if he wasn't being praised he would get moody. I don't know if he could be called shallow, but he definitely payed attention to my physical attributes. When he first talked to me he told me that he liked my designer jacket. LOL. I'm a leo sun and I can be shallow I'll admit it. I'm initially drawn to good looks. Physical appearance matters a lot to me. Something I'm trying to work on. I dated a libra for two years and he was not shallow. He was actually very accepting and friendly to all. So I think leo takes the cake on shallowness. IP: Logged |
headintheclouds91 Knowflake Posts: 258 From: Registered: Mar 2016
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posted July 22, 2016 10:25 PM
"The real question here, is which of your friends is the most shallow."Definitivly the leo venus and mars girl. And both of them are over 20. IP: Logged |
Radium Newflake Posts: 12 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted July 22, 2016 10:25 PM
Whoever has the mosr Venus aspects, 2nd house planets, or Venus in 1st (house of self) Venus in 2nd (house of self ideals and posessions) , and tbh I think Venus in an Earth sign like Virgo or Tarus (Hitler had a Tarus Venus) Tarus is a pretty superficial sign)IP: Logged |
Liliya Knowflake Posts: 1457 From: Registered: Jul 2013
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posted July 23, 2016 01:48 AM
I also know someone who is sooo shallow. You'd never believe, but he only dates people he finds attractive. He has Mercury in LeoIP: Logged |
Pisces Plutonian Knowflake Posts: 156 From: United States Registered: Jan 2016
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posted July 23, 2016 02:03 AM
Both of your friends are extremely shallow, but I'd say a person with a dominant Leo I'm their chart would be more than a dominant Libra. Unless a person has Venus in the 1st, then I'd think of them as the most shallow.I have a classmate with Venus in Leo in the 1st, and boy is he dumb as a bag of rocks but he always thinks he's so cool because of his appearance. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 18479 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 23, 2016 09:28 AM
Neither of them are shallow...I think Leos are more down-to-earth, though. They are usually self-approving and that frees them up to give natural, spontaneous reactions. Mila Kunis, Jennifer Lawrence, Jennifer Lopez...they're fun to watch because they are easygoing and funny. Libra women can sometimes be almost too poised and too self-conscious, and it draws criticism. Like Gwyneth Paltrow gets a lot of hate. She almost seems like she is putting on a show of herself instead of being herself. I don't consider that shallow, though; if anything it's just another layer of mental deliberation. It can be endearing. Libras foresee reactions and try to shape them, so they appeal to everyone on some level, balancing the scales. Leos actually don't care whether everyone likes them or not, they know their worth, & you can take it or leave it. Something like that. Please don't quote IP: Logged |
headintheclouds91 Knowflake Posts: 258 From: Registered: Mar 2016
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posted July 23, 2016 10:02 AM
@Faith, that`s strange to me. Cause both my mom and brother got leo moons, my friend and an old flame got a leo venus and mars and my other friend a leo sun and all of them care very much about their appearances and gets insanely jealous of people they find good looking. And the leo venus and mars girl and the leo sun girl have been very jealous of popular girls too bc they want to be the ones that is the most well liked. I am actually surprised that this sign isn`t has known for their shallow tendencies like libras. As a Libra i`ll admit i have had shallow tendencies and have cared about appearances myself. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2597 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015
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posted July 23, 2016 10:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith:
...........Something like that. Please don't quote
Perfectly said in my opinion. I totally agree! IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 235 From: Registered: Jun 2016
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posted July 23, 2016 12:02 PM
I'm a Leo Sun and i'm really shallow! Except, not completely--but maybe I would be by some standards. And I've had lots of Libra friends and two long-term relationships with Libras, the longest with a Libra Sun-Leo Venus.When I say I'm shallow, I mean that social status, allure, creativity, romance, fun, drama, and razzle and dazzle are priorities for me. I AM impressed by people who get famous and are adored, admired and celebrated--I think that the ability to be popular and publicly loved is a critically important human skill, a skill as important as all the "deep" ones. I am compatible with Libras, because many of them think that beauty is very important in the world. Edited: and I DO like pretty people! Or, if not pretty, I like people who are alluring and important and glow-y. IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 235 From: Registered: Jun 2016
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posted July 23, 2016 12:13 PM
Another thought: many of my friends are beautiful....not that they care about fancy clothes or lots of makeup or something, they just understand that the ways we present ourselves in the world shape the role we play in the world, shape the way people respond to us and experience us. At my happiest, I embody (on my surface, and in my physical presence) who I am and what kind of energy I have.I like people who CREATE the world instead of just living in it and reacting to it and conforming to it and responding to it. And to do that, what we embody and show on the surface shape how people perceive us and how we are able to influence the society. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 3123 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 23, 2016 01:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by headintheclouds91: IME these two are the top two most shallow signs i have ever met in my life. My friend with a leo venus and mars is suuuuper shallow and even admitted she likes pretty people. She had a hard time breaking up with her ex who cheated and treated her badly just bc she found him so handsome but she really wanted to break up but it was just too hard for her. She finally did it after months of misery She gets jealous of other girls that are pretty or have nice clothes too. Two males with the same placements as my friend gets jealous too of good looking men and gets very worried they might take all the attention from them just bc they look good. My libra sun moon and mercury friend will find it a turn off if a guy doesn`t dress well and have ugly shoes. She feels like a loser if she is alone in public and even needs to speak to someone on the phone when walking alone in public just to seem "cooler" and she finds people that do things alone to be kinda losers.
I am sorry. But this whole post had me in stitches. So juvenile!!!
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headintheclouds91 Knowflake Posts: 258 From: Registered: Mar 2016
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posted July 23, 2016 02:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: I am sorry. But this whole post had me in stitches. So juvenile!!!
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stillatlarge Knowflake Posts: 721 From: TX Registered: Nov 2010
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posted July 23, 2016 02:51 PM
These Leo's are over your head and I bet your eyes are bright green too. IP: Logged |
headintheclouds91 Knowflake Posts: 258 From: Registered: Mar 2016
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posted July 23, 2016 03:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lucia23: I'm a Leo Sun and i'm really shallow! Except, not completely--but maybe I would be by some standards. And I've had lots of Libra friends and two long-term relationships with Libras, the longest with a Libra Sun-Leo Venus.When I say I'm shallow, I mean that social status, allure, creativity, romance, fun, drama, and razzle and dazzle are priorities for me. I AM impressed by people who get famous and are adored, admired and celebrated--I think that the ability to be popular and publicly loved is a critically important human skill, a skill as important as all the "deep" ones. I am compatible with Libras, because many of them think that beauty is very important in the world. Edited: and I DO like pretty people! Or, if not pretty, I like people who are alluring and important and glow-y.
😂 You totally described my lion friends. They are very impressed, but can also be jealous of popular types. My friend with the leo venus and mars her ex bf was very popular and she felt like she had a trophy on her arm even after she found out he had cheated on her. That along with his looks made it very difficult for her to breakup with him. IP: Logged |
meyray Knowflake Posts: 605 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted July 23, 2016 03:59 PM
Leo and Libra are both signs that want to be liked and admired. The need for approval is linked to appearances so both of them are concerned with what people might call "shallow" things.However I would argue that seeking and valuing external beauty and "goodness" is not necessarily a bad thing. Shallowness is a vice and like all vices, it is a quality taken to the extreme. Shallowness is when you lose sight of what's truly important and make priorities of trivial things. Appreciating and aspiring to outer beauty is not shallow, having poor judgement and placing importance on vain and futile things AT THE EXPENSE of the substantial is shallow. So to answer your question. Who's more shallow Leo or Libra? Whoever is the more immature one. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 18479 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 23, 2016 04:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by headintheclouds91: @Faith, that`s strange to me. Cause both my mom and brother got leo moons, my friend and an old flame got a leo venus and mars and my other friend a leo sun and all of them care very much about their appearances and gets insanely jealous of people they find good looking. And the leo venus and mars girl and the leo sun girl have been very jealous of popular girls too bc they want to be the ones that is the most well liked. I am actually surprised that this sign isn`t has known for their shallow tendencies like libras. As a Libra i`ll admit i have had shallow tendencies and have cared about appearances myself.
My mother was a Leo sun conjunct Venus, and my father was a Libra sun conjunct Mars. Forgive me if I'm a little biased in favor of these signs. I have some pictures of my parents making a very elegant couple. I don't think it's shallow...I think it's awesome. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 18479 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 23, 2016 04:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by DopGang: Perfectly said in my opinion. I totally agree!
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 18479 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 23, 2016 04:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by meyray: Leo and Libra are both signs that want to be liked and admired. The need for approval is linked to appearances so both of them are concerned with what people might call "shallow" things.However I would argue that seeking and valuing external beauty and "goodness" is not necessarily a bad thing. Shallowness is a vice and like all vices, it is a quality taken to the extreme. Shallowness is when you lose sight of what's truly important and make priorities of trivial things. Appreciating and aspiring to outer beauty is not shallow, having poor judgement and placing importance on vain and futile things AT THE EXPENSE of the substantial is shallow. So to answer your question. Who's more shallow Leo or Libra? Whoever is the more immature one.
Exactly!
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Nine Moderator Posts: 2621 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted July 23, 2016 04:19 PM
Libra without a doubt. In the beginning the Leo will go for looks, but if you disrespect them they will drop you without regret. Libra will put up with a lot of crap if the offending person is hot or popular. IP: Logged |
headintheclouds91 Knowflake Posts: 258 From: Registered: Mar 2016
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posted July 23, 2016 04:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by meyray: Leo and Libra are both signs that want to be liked and admired. The need for approval is linked to appearances so both of them are concerned with what people might call "shallow" things.However I would argue that seeking and valuing external beauty and "goodness" is not necessarily a bad thing. Shallowness is a vice and like all vices, it is a quality taken to the extreme. Shallowness is when you lose sight of what's truly important and make priorities of trivial things. Appreciating and aspiring to outer beauty is not shallow, having poor judgement and placing importance on vain and futile things AT THE EXPENSE of the substantial is shallow. So to answer your question. Who's more shallow Leo or Libra? Whoever is the more immature one.
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 4374 From: Fort Collins, CO Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 23, 2016 04:42 PM
I have met both Libras and Leos with hearts of gold. Sometimes Libras are very concerned with inner beauty and Justice and are prone to feeling guilty when they don't measure up to their standards of what's right. Libras can be very sensitive Souls. I will say this though I have Venus and Mars in Leo and I always have to look at myself in the mirror and take selfies because I want to make sure I look okay, shhhh nobody knows so don't tell anyone, and there are days where I'm very hard on myself and think I look ugly. I do have that shallow side even though I am deeply emotional and compassionate with others but with a sun in Virgo and Venus in leo can be very self critical on myself. I have also met Libras who are very shallow and need to look perfect all the time and are obsessed with physical beauty but I don't think that is the majority of libras at all although the ones that are not like that end up dating people who do worry a lot about looking nice like my husband who is a Libra.IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 18479 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 23, 2016 05:41 PM
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frankie2912 Knowflake Posts: 1607 From: Here and There Registered: Apr 2011
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posted July 23, 2016 05:56 PM
How is dating people you find attractive shallow? Obviously you'd want to date people you find attractive..that's the way our brains work. We have our own beauty standards and ideals but we still go after them and it's not shallow. It's deeply biological. Saying a man who only likes attractive women is the stupidest thing I've read today. All men like attractive women. They may not be attractive to you or to everyone, but if they're attractive to them...of course they're going to like them. Duh. IP: Logged |