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Topic: Asc in air, lack of air
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Ayelet
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posted July 25, 2016 07:29 PM
  
I read that one born with an air ascendant is supposed to be very intelligent. But what if this is his or her only point of air in the chart? What if, besides the asc., there's no air at all?IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun
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posted July 25, 2016 08:40 PM
I would say that air ascendants makes someone look intelligent at first.However, a lack of air can make someone feel misunderstood, lack planning skills, may be way too involved with their own feelings and actions. Does this sound about right? ------------------
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Ayelet
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posted July 26, 2016 12:42 AM
Thanks, Mergoatsun. I cannot know yet if that applies, since the native is a baby... but it sounds logical. I read, though, in Sydney Omarr's book, that air asc. does actually bestows intelligence. And she has Aquarius asc.IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo
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posted July 26, 2016 12:50 AM
@ AyeletWhat else is in her chart? IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted July 26, 2016 01:09 AM
If born with a Saturn ruled Ascendant and no planets on the Ascendant. There may be a feelin by the native that they have to "prove" themselves through achieving something of tangible value that speaks of who they know themselves to be.Where Saturn is placed suggests the area of life where the "tangible" thing may manifest. Whilst the Ascendant modality and element will depict the manner or method of how to get that manifestation. Since the Ascendant is in air, the method would be through emotional detachment, neutral appraisal and deductive reasoning(barring that "hot" or "moist" planets do not aspect the Ascendant) Air Ascendant dont only want ton"seem" intelligent, the will actively develop their minds to be sharp and alert. This may emphasize the achetype planet of intelligence(Mercury as well as aspets to it) in the chart as this the initial point where the development will begin. IP: Logged |
Radium
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posted July 26, 2016 01:17 AM
Look at what house corresponds with your AscLike Aqua Rising you'd look at 11th house and Uranus since that what rules him.. IP: Logged |
Ayelet
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posted July 26, 2016 01:37 AM
Stubbornvirgo, here is a link to her chart:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=6&nho2=1&btyp=2&mth=gw&sday=26&smon=7&syr=2016&hsy=2&zodiac=trop&ayanam=0&helgeo=geo&rs=0&orbp=&ast= IP: Logged |
Ayelet
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posted July 26, 2016 01:44 AM
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
If born with a Saturn ruled Ascendant and no planets on the Ascendant. There may be a feelin by the native that they have to "prove" themselves through achieving something of tangible value that speaks of who they know themselves to be.Where Saturn is placed suggests the area of life where the "tangible" thing may manifest. Whilst the Ascendant modality and element will depict the manner or method of how to get that manifestation. Since the Ascendant is in air, the method would be through emotional detachment, neutral appraisal and deductive reasoning(barring that "hot" or "moist" planets do not aspect the Ascendant) Air Ascendant dont only want ton"seem" intelligent, the will actively develop their minds to be sharp and alert. This may emphasize the achetype planet of intelligence(Mercury as well as aspets to it) in the chart as this the initial point where the development will begin.
That's interesting, though I'd say aquarius is ruled by Uranus and not by Saturn. but it used to be ruled by Saturn.
Also interesting to note the native will develop her intellect as a result of this aspect.
Mercury aspects Saturn, Uranus, Mars and the moon, as shown in the link. IP: Logged |
Ayelet
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posted July 26, 2016 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by Radium:
Look at what house corresponds with your AscLike Aqua Rising you'd look at 11th house and Uranus since that what rules him..
It's not mine... Saturn is in the 11th house. And Uranus in Aries in the 4th, trine Mercury.IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted July 26, 2016 04:24 AM
I use traditional rulers and then supplement with modern rulers.Asc Aquarius is more likely to be a loner Ascendant. Mars,Mars/Pluto,Saturn, Saturn/Uranus,Jupiter/Neptune ruled people tend to be. Saturn(in this case in the 11th house) is where one seeks to condense and stabilize things. Whilst where Uranus is(and in this case the 4th), one may seek unique experiences and do away with the "old" to usher in the "new" The native may face early challenges in life relating to peers(11th). Or may keep the same friends well into maturity. Saturn here also suggests trouble making friends because of inability to relate to people who are the native's age. Saturn is mature energy and works best afer 30 onwards. So it may be slow in showing great rewards in early age. Uranus in 4th, well...i dont see being particularly keen in keeping the traditions and customs upon which they were raised. There is a possibilty(especially when in Aries) for the individual to seek complete independence from their father or what the father represents. IP: Logged |
Ayelet
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posted July 26, 2016 02:53 PM
That was interesting, Aries23Degrees... thank you!IP: Logged |
Ayelet
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posted July 26, 2016 06:52 PM
I actually think the traditional rulerships are bygones... and replaced smoothly by the modern.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 29, 2016 02:20 PM
Interesting.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 01, 2016 04:42 PM
Any Air helps.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 02, 2016 02:55 PM
I see this and it is hard for the person cuz she APPEARS to be a way she is not.------------------
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Ayelet
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posted August 02, 2016 10:03 PM
So we only appear to be our rising sign? Doesn't it go any deeper than that? IP: Logged |
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