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Ami Anne
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posted August 07, 2016 07:47 AM
  
OkHow would you say a mercury Trine Neptune differs from a Pisces Mercury Or a Mercury Trine Pluto differs from a Scorpio Mercury It seems hard to put into words. Any thoughts from the smartest people on the web  ------------------
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Radium
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posted August 07, 2016 07:52 AM
Its the same thing...What rules Pisces
What rules Scorpio Aspect doesn't matter IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted August 07, 2016 07:59 AM
"How would you say a mercury Trine Neptune differs from a Pisces Mercury"To hazard a guess, Mercury in Pisces only involves one sign.
Whereas Mercury Trine Neptune, could be Mercury in ((any sign)) trine Neptune in ((any sign)). So the expression of the individual planets are further defined in the 2nd case. IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted August 07, 2016 08:03 AM
The trine (or any aspect) will embody and bring up issues related to both signs, houses and planets involved. the aspect--even a harmonious one--will represent and show an INTERACTION between two (or more) tendencies of the self. whereas a lone planet in a sign will just embody and represent that one kind of energy. So Mercury in Pisces embodies a Neptunian communication style....if you had a Mercury in Pisces trine Neptune it would make your communication style super-turbo-Piscean/Neptunian.....but a Mercury in Aries trine Neptune would mix an Aries communication style with the influence of the fire Neptune and the house of each planet. The nature of the interaction/aspect itself (trine versus square) so much shapes the flavor of the embodiment. IP: Logged |
Koniucha
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posted August 07, 2016 08:19 AM
IMO, I feel like the aspect is stronger than the sign.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 07, 2016 09:10 AM
Love these answers. Thank you. Just studying xx------------------
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DopGang
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posted August 07, 2016 09:21 AM
Example -
My mars on asc often makes me aggressive and 90% of the time I don't realize that I'm doing it. I just think that I'm making a logical point (Virgo). Or I just LOOK aggressive.
Aries mars may be those things but have better control and awareness of when they're doing it, what time is appropriate and how they're coming across. Sometimes I'm left confused about it. "Why are they reacting so harshly to me?" Something to that effect is how I see it and it depends. A trine will be more subtle and blend together easier. They'll still maintain the sign traits a lot though. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 07, 2016 09:25 AM
I started thinking along these lines when someone asked me if I had a Pisces Mercury. I thought"Whaaaat"I feel very Gemini in my thinking due to a 4 personal planet stellium in the 9th House--Gemini Sun, Venus and Mercury and Cancer Moon. Then, I realized I had Sun and Mercury trine Neptune and they must have picked that up. ------------------
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Gabby
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posted August 07, 2016 09:32 AM
Its siimular but the trine will be focused on displaying the high side of pisces Neptune, while the actual pisces Neptune can go on either the low or high side of that energy depending on aspects.
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DopGang
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posted August 07, 2016 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Its siimular but the trine will be focused on and display only the high side of pisces Neptune, while the actual pisces Neptune can go on either the low or high side of that energy.
Interesting!
How about a sextile? IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted August 07, 2016 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by DopGang:
Interesting!
How about a sextile?
Same thing, the sextile will be focused on the high side of the energy. The soft aspects naturally give a positive energy flow. IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo
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posted August 07, 2016 10:56 AM
I think the difference is that people don't typically expect those qualities from me. When they're speaking to my Mercury in Virgo, they see a rational, logical listener. They don't expect to see Neptunian qualities just pop out of nowhere. I suspect their reaction would be similar with your Mercury in Gemini. IP: Logged |
Electro DGX
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posted August 07, 2016 04:13 PM
The sign placement itself is the base and the aspects added on top are the additions. It's like my Scorpio Ascendant is the Mint Chocolate Ice Cream and my Mars on the Ascendant is the fact that it is green. But then the squares and other aspects shown are all the strange additions that either do or don't fit on the ice cream. Pretty general and weird explanation, but sums it up. The sign itself is the base and the conjunctions to the specified planet/angle are primary factors in coloring it. Other aspects sort of add qualities to it, whether they clash or flow with the planet in question. ------------------
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meyray
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posted August 07, 2016 04:26 PM
The sign of Mercury signifies how a person's thought process and communication work. An aspect to Neptune would just increase their capacity for creativity, idealism and all other qualities related to Neptune. This won't replace the character of Mercury's sign - Air Merucuries will still be logical, Earth Merucries will still be practical, Water Mercuries will still be emotional and Fire Mercuries will still be passionate.The same goes for all planets.
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Belage
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posted August 07, 2016 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
OkHow would you say a mercury Trine Neptune differs from a Pisces Mercury Or a Mercury Trine Pluto differs from a Scorpio Mercury It seems hard to put into words. Any thoughts from the smartest people on the web
It's not the same thing, though those aspects have similarities. Mercury in Pisces: Water mercury who uses feelings and emotions to learn, understand and communicate. It is also in its detriment, therefore this is a poorly placed Mercury. Mercury trine Neptune: The sign the mercury is will primarily influence and define it, and in addition to that, Neptune trine will impart a certain type of idealism, spirituality and otherwordliness. You can use the same reasoning for the Mercury and Pluto question. IP: Logged |
Radium
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posted August 07, 2016 06:36 PM
Hows it not the same thing if Neptune rules Pisces? I think some are looking to far into it.I'm a Pisces Sun with Neptune 3rd and Progressed Mercury in Pisces 4th. I can't feel a difference at all. I like to keep things easy..so let's say Mercury in Leo trine Uranus, Moon, and Jupiter..the base of your communication and thoughts is that of a Leo but since its aspected to other planets you'd also have a Aquarian,Cancerian and Saggy mindset. Sun rules Leo so you'd have a Sun/Mercury like mind. Happy, Fun and confident and of course very aware (: IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted August 07, 2016 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by Radium:
Hows it not the same thing if Neptune rules Pisces? I think some are looking to far into it.
Are you aware of planetary dignities? Mercury is in its detriment in Pisces. That alone will make it vastly different from say Mercury in Virgo or Gemini trine Neptune. IP: Logged |
meyray
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posted August 07, 2016 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by Radium:
Its the same thing...What rules Pisces
What rules Scorpio Aspect doesn't matter
Saying an aspect between two planets is basically "the same thing" as another sign placement just because of rulerships is poor astrology. And aspects are what matter the most in a chart.
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Electro DGX
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posted August 07, 2016 07:09 PM
I have to agree with the others here. Sorry Radium, but aspects and sign placements are not the same. Perhaps conjunctions, but even so, the sign placements that these conjunctions are in can greatly alter the energy. For example, Mercury in Gemini would be quite Mercurial and have the basic traits of a Gemini Mercury. With a trine to Neptune, the Mercury will have the positive traits of Neptune in their Mercury sign (such as being artistic, being able to tone into intuitive energies) but alas, they will not act the same as a Pisces Mercury on basic instinct. It will just be a different type of Gemini Mercury. It wouldn't be the same as a Pisces Mercury which naturally handles things with regard to feelings whereas the Gemini Mercury relies on logic. That's just the surface of it all. Besides, if they were the same, there wouldn't be much room for individuality in the realm of astrology, and it would be much more difficult to identify one's character through astrological means. ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted August 07, 2016 07:16 PM
BelageExcellent description You are my favorite Moon in Libra ------------------
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Belage
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posted August 07, 2016 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
BelageExcellent description You are my favorite Moon in Libra
LOL!!!!!  .
Coming from you, Cancer moon, it's a huge compliment. 
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Faith
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posted August 07, 2016 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by meyray:
The sign of Mercury signifies how a person's thought process and communication work. An aspect to Neptune would just increase their capacity for creativity, idealism and all other qualities related to Neptune. This won't replace the character of Mercury's sign - Air Merucuries will still be logical, Earth Merucries will still be practical, Water Mercuries will still be emotional and Fire Mercuries will still be passionate.The same goes for all planets.
Yes An aspect is a relationship between two planets, more or less intense according to the type of aspect and orb. There is some distance there. Whereas the sign is a planet's essential nature with no distance. It's intrinsic. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 07, 2016 07:48 PM
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Ami Anne
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posted August 07, 2016 07:49 PM
Whereas the sign is a planet's essential nature with no distance. It's intrinsic. Well said, Faith. ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted August 07, 2016 07:51 PM
Maybe a Gemini mercury trine Neptune would have the creativity and the poetic nature of a Pisces Mercury, but not be STUCK there, as a Pisces Mercury may be. This is pigging backing on Faith's comment. ------------------
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