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Topic: What`s the meaning of the Mars/Saturn for us?
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yungang_grotto
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From: love lives forever
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 25, 2016 01:08 PM
  
"It`s a strong story for me, as there is so much concentrated on 7-11 mutable for me. including the exact point in Sagittarius, with my Neptune-NN."No kidding! I'm so glad you had a great day!  I have so much hope for the earth and humanity right now, I wasn't sure what to expect. Yay  IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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From: love lives forever
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 25, 2016 01:11 PM
"With Saturn-Neptune I always think it either means crushing your dreams, busting your illusions as you said or making intangible things tangible, somehow earth and anchor those dreams.
But too often it is the former, I fear."Do you know what's crazy? D. and I met up in person for the first time in years the day of the first Saturn Neptune square in November...! The last one is in September, coming right up... I'm fascinated to see where we stand when the synodic cycle has completed... Overall it has been a lot of both.. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted August 25, 2016 01:23 PM
Despite the desasters on a global scale, from my personal point of view, also in my professional (hey another butterfly just peered into my window. lol) sphere, there is a lot of love, or let`s say positive being turned to others; there are also high high demands and projects started, very much structure, but what is very noteable to me is that sense of clarity. We started the schoolyear by finally get around to work on the "keep the school clean"-project. We have been talking about that for 10 years I think, all of us being dissatisfied with the situation, the messiness not just because of the messiness itself but because it is an incidator for carelessness, not caring about others or the social environment and neglect of teamwork. The issues was a known one for years as I said, but suddenly it gets going, and well it`s really due to a colleague of mine who worked out the project that we have started now.
And that colleague of mine?
Marvel at the astrology!
Sun 10 Aries trine the ongoing Mars-Saturn-conjunction
(opposite Pluto at 5 Libra) A Virgo ASC at 21 degrees (well of course it was in Virgo. lol)
He has got Mars on the MC exact on 18 Gemini, his Saturn is on 28 Gemini - well of course it is too wide for a conjunction, however, his NN is on 22 Sagittarius,s o his Mars/Saturn-mp actually falls right onto his nodal axis.
His EVC with the ongoing Mars-Saturn-conjunction however has
Sun conjunct Moon exact on 20-21 Gemini in 9th house
opposing Mercury on 20 Sag in 3rd
square
Saturn on 19 Virgo in 11th
(conj. Mars on 14 Virgo in 11th)
Well he was very very clear about how he wanted to implement the changes in a very structural, systematic, yet progressive way.
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Ceridwen
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posted August 25, 2016 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Overall it has been a lot of both..
Yes.... and it IS fascinating, I agree with that. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
Knowflake Posts: 3321
From: love lives forever
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted August 25, 2016 01:48 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Despite the desasters on a global scale, from my personal point of view, also in my professional (hey another butterfly just peered into my window. lol) sphere, there is a lot of love, or let`s say positive being turned to others; there are also high high demands and projects started, very much structure, but what is very noteable to me is that sense of clarity. We started the schoolyear by finally get around to work on the "keep the school clean"-project. We have been talking about that for 10 years I think, all of us being dissatisfied with the situation, the messiness not just because of the messiness itself but because it is an incidator for carelessness, not caring about others or the social environment and neglect of teamwork. The issues was a known one for years as I said, but suddenly it gets going, and well it`s really due to a colleague of mine who worked out the project that we have started now.
And that colleague of mine?
Marvel at the astrology!
Sun 10 Aries trine the ongoing Mars-Saturn-conjunction
(opposite Pluto at 5 Libra) A Virgo ASC at 21 degrees (well of course it was in Virgo. lol)
He has got Mars on the MC exact on 18 Gemini, his Saturn is on 28 Gemini - well of course it is too wide for a conjunction, however, his NN is on 22 Sagittarius,s o his Mars/Saturn-mp actually falls right onto his nodal axis.
His EVC with the ongoing Mars-Saturn-conjunction however has
Sun conjunct Moon exact on 20-21 Gemini in 9th house
opposing Mercury on 20 Sag in 3rd
square
Saturn on 19 Virgo in 11th
(conj. Mars on 14 Virgo in 11th)
Well he was very very clear about how he wanted to implement the changes in a very structural, systematic, yet progressive way.
Awwe... the buuutterflyyy!! Yes, everybody has their unique contributions to make and it is totally fascinating to see how the astrology matches up to our participation with collective energies and impetus for change. Happy to hear the school is finally getting feng shui'd! That Virgo Pisces polarity... must organize the physical so the spirit can flow... IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted August 25, 2016 03:28 PM
2012 -2015 sucked, although I thought things improved a bit last year. They didn't. This year has been worse, not only because of the obvious. My Dad said he felt like he was being fought, all year. Saturn is in his 12th house. Saturn/Mars is right around my Neptune, and I feel like crap - suicidal thoughts have been back, and I snapped at a person who called from the hospital, yesterday. I shouldn't have answered the phone. It's in my 2nd house, and will trine my MC, and the rest of my Aries planets as it moves forward (or, as they do). I'm just getting up, taking care of the animals, spending time with my dad and sister. IP: Logged |
mirage29
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Registered: May 2012
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posted August 25, 2016 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Mirage, thank you.  BTW I internally responded most strongly to these points in Anne Ortelee`s article: "Expect to be reminded, once more, about the lessons you learned while Saturn was in the swamp of Scorpio between 2012 and 2015. Think about all the patterns you became conscious of during that period!" and "The chart also has a Mystic Rectangle, asking us to dust off old dreams and reevaluate them. Which ones could be good-as-new with a little TLC? Which ones are worn beyond repair, and ready to be recycled? Last chance, or they’re all going in the bin! The critical moment has come at last. So toss your head back defiantly, like Scarlett O’Hara, and declare whatever you have to declare (even if it’s only – like Oscar Wilde – your genius). This is it. You’re down to the final decisions. Your new life is knocking at your door! Onward and upward, tiny step by tiny step!"
omg Ceri !!! Thank you for doing that-- I appreciate it soo much! You saved me time... And I KNOW you have grown over those years... I've seen not all, but some of your postings. I think you did Great!!! *two hands, high fives*
Saturn is re-crossing my own Ascendant when it gets to 11+ Sag. (And I too, have a lower degree MC. 2.30 Libra. My MOON is Virgo 24.56!!! .... It's got a lot of Company! ... including Chiron opposing it for ~ev'uhrrr!!! LOL *grin*
I felt a kind of breakdown/breakthrough this morning.. Mars peels away and heads over my ASC first, before Saturn. My Progressed chart is on LEO and Sag Fire, still.... There may be many doors that I'm not(?) perceiving yet, with the Directness I need to understand it. But these eclipses should highlight and download some of the things I (and the rest of us with similar placements) need to become more lucid about? Nothing like feeling chickenshift on one level, and a Warrior Xena on the another! *flips her gurl curls*... Yeah!,, *gum crackles* I'm BOTH. LOL!!!  IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted August 25, 2016 03:35 PM
I've just read the link. A mother stealing from her child? Why not buy a separate meal for the little one?? Or just ask? That annoys me, because I've had that happen to me, with food that I've gone to the store, picked out myself, and brought home. A few years ago, it kept happening. I found that when my sister needed something, if I'd bought something for myself, my dad was telling her to use it. I'd go to make my own food, and find that I no longer had certain things. "Rage" doesn't even cover it, really. I just flipped out. It would have been okay if I'd been asked, and if a certain person wasn't keeping things from me, that I could have used (but I wasn't allowed). I shouldn't be talking about this. I'm getting angry again. IP: Logged |
mirage29
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From: us
Registered: May 2012
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posted August 25, 2016 03:40 PM
Teasel... I wish you some TREMENDOUS Luck in your situation... Hang on, Gurl. You're a Survivor!!!!, and You can DO this.  You've got ALL your LL friendly Loving Supports here. {{hug!}} *and smack high five* You're one Tough Cookie, with melty chocolate morsels... A LOVABLE one!!  ... Here's to you!  You're Awesome. You're Growing soooo Fine....
And we're PROUD of you. You're gonna shock yourself how Cool you really are, when all this is past you.  EDIT-- heck, don't wait for later!!! There's no time like the Present. Celebrate your Successes WHILE you're still growing towards it. It will put wings on your sneakers!! You Go Gurl... Every single step, no matter how you 'feel' IS successful. PRE-celebrate.  IP: Logged | |
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