posted August 24, 2016 12:04 PM            

Interestingly the years 2012-2015, she mentioned, were ABSOLUTELY pivotal for me, so I got curious, and looked how the transit chart of the exact Mars-Saturn-conjunction was affecting my chart.

What do you think?

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posted August 24, 2016 12:24 PM            

My Pisces Sun shows through in my heartfelt empathy for people struggling with poverty, so I tend to give the benefit of the doubt.

But yeah, not cool to literally steal food from one child to give to another, and teach the second child not to say anything about it. A better approach would have been to simply state that the food was too expensive, and they would have to share (if that was indeed the case, which is a bit of an assumption of course).

I won't defend the method by any means, but I will question why they felt the need to do that in the first place.

posted August 24, 2016 12:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:

But yeah, not cool to literally steal food from one child to give to another, and teach the second child not to say anything about it. A better approach would have been to simply state that the food was too expensive, and they would have to share

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posted August 24, 2016 12:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
My little brother has become a Dad for the first time on 4th august, too, and Tr Saturn of course was at the same spot then and falling onto his natal Moon-Jupiter-Uranus. The little one already has made him grow up A LOT.

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Congratulations to you and your family, Ceri!

posted August 24, 2016 03:04 PM            

well I am not sure. With Saturn-Neptune I always think it either means crushing your dreams, busting your illusions as you said or making intangible things tangible, somehow earth and anchor those dreams.
But too often it is the former, I fear.

Of course I find it interesting that it happens so shortly after my Mars-Return, and having a Saturn transit to my Neptune while there is this transiting Saturn-Neptune-square ongoing. Though I have no clue what it really means.

Yes, something very big happened for me as it was the first time I was holding my little nephew on my arm. And this was indeed very special.
Though I did not quite want to at first, as i don`t have children and always am afraid of doing something wrong or somehow hold him wrongly, but well my mother simply pushed him into my arms, and noone really had to tell me how to hold him, though I consciously did not know, I guess there must be some kind of female instinct how to hold a baby, left, even in me.
Though I was afraid for his safety as the little one is such an active one and moving so much, and then just looking up at me, and even later when my brother was feeding him, following me with his eyes. Even though technically he should not be able to do that, right? I mean he is only 3 weeks.

But well yes so for me it was a special day. And as I already said to Faith, the day did not feel like Mars-Saturn should feel probably, much too emotional, sentimental, affectionate, emotionally open and so on. And that to an Aqua Moon! lol

Maybe it was the mix of them with Neptune? Neptune sort of making things softer?

posted August 24, 2016 03:10 PM            

Maybe the Saturn-Mars added seriousness to your expression of your Neptune.

I believe newborns can have a special magic and be able to connect with us in ways they aren't biologically supposed to be able to. I bet he was following you with his eyes on an ethereal level at least, like, Hey, I'm here, I love you!

posted August 24, 2016 03:19 PM            

I don't know what the aspect means, but off the top of my head it might indicate difficulties at home affecting my schoolwork.

posted August 24, 2016 03:28 PM            

Yes, I agree with you, the magic is unbelievable.
And yes higher octave of love, but I was also thinking maybe it was sort of a breaking down (Mars) of a barrier (Saturn) for me, too, especially as this conjunction also conjuncts my Mars and ASC.
I`ve always kinda avoided being around REALLY little children, maybe because I never had any and fearing how I would cope emotionally?
Not that I consciously ever wanted one, but it was never a conscious decision to NOT have a child. It just didn`t happen. Not that I was unhappy about that on a daily basis, but it is difficult knowing that that ship has sailed in a certain age, you know?

But nevertheless it`s jsut really unbelievably beautiful having a baby in the close family. And this little guy is just stealing everyone`s heart.

BTW he is a Leo with a Leo Venus on 28 Leo conjunct Virgo Moon on 00 Virgo. And his Mars is JUST in Sagittarius, close to my own Mars.
Oh and what I found particularly interesting is that his ASC falls right onto the middle of my 4 degree conjunction of MC and Pluto.

posted August 24, 2016 05:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
For now, the Mars/Saturn conjunction on my NN/Neptune conjunction feels very good indeed. Like a really suffocating fog has been lifted emotionally, spiritually, and to some degree psychologically (well, there's always room for improvement on that last one in particular ).

This isn't the first round of Saturn in this position for me, but this time around it just feels so much lighter. For now, anyway. I'm hoping this will continue on for a good while.

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posted August 25, 2016 10:50 AM            

Might try to get to the article later. Violets sounded like she had some smooth observations. (thumbsup).

Anyways, I've been up all night--- head fog, no sleep... so it's like I'm punchdrunk. OMG, ~hey, I just realized, I can go and make some actual coffee right now!! Haven't had any yet, and it's the mid-morning here. That will feel better! haha

Violets!! Blessings on you.... You'll be up at nights now too, with your Little Leo. {{Big Hug}}

posted August 25, 2016 11:29 AM            

wow!
You have so much courage and integrity! And I guess it`s true, this transit brings out some very core qualities in us!

posted August 25, 2016 11:34 AM            

thank you.

BTW I internally responded most strongly to these points in Anne Ortelee`s article:

"Expect to be reminded, once more, about the lessons you learned while Saturn was in the swamp of Scorpio between 2012 and 2015. Think about all the patterns you became conscious of during that period!"

and

"The chart also has a Mystic Rectangle, asking us to dust off old dreams and reevaluate them. Which ones could be good-as-new with a little TLC? Which ones are worn beyond repair, and ready to be recycled? Last chance, or they’re all going in the bin!

The critical moment has come at last. So toss your head back defiantly, like Scarlett O’Hara, and declare whatever you have to declare (even if it’s only – like Oscar Wilde – your genius). This is it. You’re down to the final decisions. Your new life is knocking at your door!

Onward and upward, tiny step by tiny step!"

posted August 25, 2016 11:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Its falling on my Neptune and ive been able to express anger a lot lately, typically i cant.

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I really wish I had that problem, lol.

posted August 25, 2016 12:08 PM            

It's also conjunct my Neptune and to look at the bigger picture:

Saturn crossed 9 degrees Sagittarius in December 2015 (it was exactly conjunct my own Neptune on 15/12/15)
Mars stationed retrograde at almost 9 degrees on 17th April 2016.
All month Saturn is and has been at 9 degrees Sagittarius.
On 23rd & 24th August - Mars was conjunct Saturn at 9 degrees.

Now, not to be ignored: there will be a solar eclipse at the 10 degrees Virgo on 2nd September 2016.

This is quite a story for our Neptunes, mine rules the 5th House and sits in the 2nd House. I'm getting a theme - a few themes from this story. Anybody will a planet at 9 degrees Sagittarius is going to have a 'story'.

posted August 25, 2016 12:25 PM            

"The Mars-Saturn conjunction became exact today, conjunct the heart of the Scorpion at 9 degrees Sagittarius. A very, very intense time of consolidation of the Mars energy we've been processing since April. This marks the true end of the Mars retrograde period, and the beginning of the next chapter. It is time to forge new energetic pathways, and these pathways will have solid physical results, as we have Saturn's energy grounding Mars here. Saturn and Mars are actually a phenomenal team when working together, one providing drive and the other, structure. However, things can get out of hand when Mars says go and Saturn says stop, and explosive incidents can result.

Because it is a waning moon, I figure it is that which we release which will be very firm today. If the Moon were crescendoing, the Mars Saturn conjunction might have been nearly unbearable, explosive, etcetera. Blessed universe knows just how to temper things... and with the Sun into Virgo we are all beginning very wise and discerning when it comes to holism, taking care of ourselves, minutae. The caution is to discern and do things when they truly feel right--not only because you think you "should."

This Virgo energy, after all, is in sharp contrast with the "break out!!! Chart a new course!!!"-- energy of Mars in Sagittarius, but from what I've seen, folks have been handling this very gracefully, and I think our beautiful early autumn Virgo Sun has just the right medicine for us.

That which we no longer want in our lives is less likely to return than usual, and the patterns we are beginning to carve will stand us in good stead for the long term. Take heart, for the sky is mellowing into a beautiful reality, full of energy and light and life

... just in time for the powerful eclipse season in September!!

posted August 25, 2016 12:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Dancing Maenad,

wow!
You have so much courage and integrity! And I guess it`s true, this transit brings out some very core qualities in us!

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posted August 25, 2016 12:53 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
I actually really had a great day.

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Yes me, too.

And wonderful observation by you and Waxlobster.

It`s a strong story for me, as there is so much concentrated on 7-11 mutable for me. including the exact point in Sagittarius, with my Neptune-NN.

posted August 25, 2016 12:59 PM            

Next months Lunar Return starting at 14th september will have ASC on 9 Virgo.

That ASC will square Moon/Jupiter 0°25

My Mars-Return which happened on 14th august, and will last until february 2018 - so quite some time, of course also had the Mars-Saturn-conjunction albeit more widely of course: at 4 degrees

Actually it is the Apex of A T-square of

Neptune 11 Pisces in 11th

opposite

Venus 11 Virgo in 5th
NN 12 Virgo in 5th

square

Saturn 9 Sag in 6th
Mars 5 Sag in 6th

(well I wished it had not been in 6th house honestly speaking)

That opposition there also is forming a cradle of

Neptune 11 PIsces

Venus 11 Virgo
NN 12 Virgo

Moon 9 Cap in 8th

BML 9 Scorpio in 6th

The symmetry axis of this runs straight through the heart of Scorpio, with Saturn on 9 Sagittarius (and through my nodal axis-Neptune natally of course).