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Mergoatsun
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posted August 25, 2016 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ever since I rectified my chart I've been very curious in the changes. I found out that my chart is dominated like this: 1st Capricorn ruled, 2nd Aquarius ruled, 3rd Cancer ruled. 1st Earth ruled, 2nd Water ruled, 3rd Air ruled, 1st Cardinal energy ruled, 1st Moon ruled, 2nd Mercury ruled, 3rd Saturn ruled.

I realized that these influences have their own individual effect on me. Being moon ruled I have to say, I am pretty emotional and I put a lot of credit in feelings, however being Earth ruled my mind is constantly torn towards logic and facts instead of relying on feelings. Capricorn ruler makes me ambitious, Aquarius makes me unconventionally intelligent and Cancer makes me a home body.

What about you guys lindaland? What are your chart dominators and how does it effect you?

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posted August 25, 2016 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you decide who's first, second and third? Sun, moon, ascendant?

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posted August 26, 2016 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
How do you decide who's first, second and third? Sun, moon, ascendant?

There's a chart on astrodienst.com it's under extended charts then Walter Pullen then scroll down to the chart by water Pullen and deep down in that analysis will be your chart rulers.

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posted August 26, 2016 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the89freespirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hate to be that person but you are talking about dominant planets/influences, not chart rulers.

You can only have one chart ruler and that is the planet that rules the sign your Ascendant is in.

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posted August 26, 2016 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
Hate to be that person but you are talking about dominant planets/influences, not chart rulers.

You can only have one chart ruler and that is the planet that rules the sign your Ascendant is in.


I agree unless you are a Pisces riser or Scorpio riser bc they have two rulers...

Then to top it off your chart rulers often conjunct other planets so that can get complicated like in my case my chart rulers are pluto and mars and my pluto conjuncts my saturn and my Mars conjuncts my Venus so I would say pluto is ultimately my chart ruler but I cant look into that without considering saturn and mars conjunct Venus..

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posted August 26, 2016 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So pluto and Mars rule my chart but saturn and venus co-rule my chart in a sense, it explains why I am not vindictive with Venus helping cool off my Mars and Saturn cooling off my pluto. I can feel extreme anger but then it's over and venus and Saturn end up taking over..add my moon in Pisces and I always forgive.

So if you just go by my chart ruler and don't take into account the planets it's conjuncting you will get a different story.

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posted August 26, 2016 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpiogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
Ever since I rectified my chart I've been very curious in the changes. I found out that my chart is ruled like this: 1st Capricorn ruled, 2nd Aquarius ruled, 3rd Cancer ruled. 1st Earth ruled, 2nd Water ruled, 3rd Air ruled, 1st Cardinal energy ruled, 1st Moon ruled, 2nd Mercury ruled, 3rd Saturn ruled.

I realized that these influences have their own individual effect on me. Being moon ruled I have to say, I am pretty emotional and I put a lot of credit in feelings, however being Earth ruled my mind is constantly torn towards logic and facts instead of relying on feelings. Capricorn ruler makes me ambitious, Aquarius makes me unconventionally intelligent and Cancer makes me a home body.

What about you guys lindaland? What are your ruler-ships and how does it effect you?


According to Pullen it's
1.Scorpio, 2.Capricorn, 3.Aquarius

1.Pluto, 2.Saturn, 3.Mars (0.1% behind Saturn)

and

1.Water, 2.Earth, 3.Air

I'd say it fits.

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posted August 26, 2016 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1) Virgo
2) Pisces
3) Sagittarius


1) Mercury
2) Jupiter
3) Sun

1) Earth
2) Fire
3) Air
4) Water
(All close though)

Mutable by a long shot.

Hmm.
Confident but humble. Can come across arrogant at times or uncaring.

Thinking and intuition together. Facts and philosophy.

Overall, unique.

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posted August 26, 2016 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
So pluto and Mars rule my chart but saturn and venus co-rule my chart in a sense, it explains why I am not vindictive with Venus helping cool off my Mars and Saturn cooling off my pluto. I can feel extreme anger but then it's over and venus and Saturn end up taking over..add my moon in Pisces and I always forgive.

So if you just go by my chart ruler and don't take into account the planets it's conjuncting you will get a different story.


Hmm interesting! Saturn is the real steady rock for you it seems.

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posted August 26, 2016 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by scorpiogirl:
According to Pullen it's
1.Scorpio, 2.Capricorn, 3.Aquarius

1.Pluto, 2.Saturn, 3.Mars (0.1% behind Saturn)

and

1.Water, 2.Earth, 3.Air

I'd say it fits.


You're chart is a a bit like mine. Is it hard have both Pluto and Saturn the biggest throwers of obscures to be dominant in your chart?

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posted August 26, 2016 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DopGang:
1) Virgo
2) Pisces
3) Sagittarius


1) Mercury
2) Jupiter
3) Sun

1) Earth
2) Fire
3) Air
4) Water
(All close though)

Mutable by a long shot.

Hmm.
Confident but humble. Can come across arrogant at times or uncaring.

Thinking and intuition together. Facts and philosophy.

Overall, unique.


Woah mutable energy to the max! Do you feel comfortable speaking your mind and in public? I know a few earth and fire dominants that always speak their mind and are great public speakers.

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posted August 26, 2016 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
Hmm interesting! Saturn is the real steady rock for you it seems.


Yes but it's also the source of a lot of insecurities and fears which pluto forces me to confront and if confronted right can then turn into strengths.

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posted August 26, 2016 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
Woah mutable energy to the max! Do you feel comfortable speaking your mind and in public? I know a few earth and fire dominants that always speak their mind and are great public speakers.


I certainly can speak my mind. Honestly the reason that I don't more often is that I feel that I come off very aggressive when doing so.

Public speaking is not something that I enjoy doing. When I do though I get a lot of praise. Others seem to make a big deal about how good it was but to me I don't see it.

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posted August 26, 2016 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars (Pisces), Pluto (Libra), and Mercury (Aries).

According to a pullen chart, years ago, I was more mutable than anything, but only just.

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posted August 27, 2016 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpiogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
You're chart is a a bit like mine. Is it hard have both Pluto and Saturn the biggest throwers of obscures to be dominant in your chart?


It can be hard sometimes. I've lived through some traumatic experiences from a young age and there have been times were I was alienated by my peers. I've had some major setbacks. But you know, I'm still here trying.

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posted August 27, 2016 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn, then neptune - a very very close second. When I first learned astrology, out of curiosity, I used to wonder what could have happened if neptune was top, instead of saturn. And in moments when I lost grip on reality (or "saturnine" reality, neptune has its own version), I experienced a little of the "what could have been", lol Idk, can't say I don't want it to happen again. It's like being a floatation tank mentally.

Venus comes third. Idk, I've never really felt venus-y (or is "venusian" the right word lol). I have taurus mars (and an earth-dominated chart), so I think that I experience more of the "earthy" side of venus and less (if any) the "airy" side of venus. Carnal pleasures, hmmm oh yeah. Hah lucky saturn is there to run the ship.

I like beautiful, pleasing environments. I can be pretty self-indulgent and I like to spoil others. I probably like romance and like to live it, more than I would want to admit. On the outside, I keep a calm face (or at least try to, sometimes I fail), but inside I'm all gooey and squealing and rolling around giggling like mad.


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posted August 27, 2016 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus
Moon
Venus

Aquarius
Taurus
Capricorn

Earth
Air
Water
Fire

Fixed
Cardinal
Mutable

I suppose I feel like a loner most of the time, but really just wanting stability and certainty. Loving the weird but craving normality. I think. I don't really know. I am weird but at the same time, not.

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posted August 27, 2016 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
There's a chart on astrodienst.com it's under extended charts then Walter Pullen then scroll down to the chart by water Pullen and deep down in that analysis will be your chart rulers.



Well, I tried... but didn't see any chart rulers....?

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posted August 27, 2016 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I agree unless you are a Pisces riser or Scorpio riser bc they have two rulers...

Then to top it off your chart rulers often conjunct other planets so that can get complicated like in my case my chart rulers are pluto and mars and my pluto conjuncts my saturn and my Mars conjuncts my Venus so I would say pluto is ultimately my chart ruler but I cant look into that without considering saturn and mars conjunct Venus..


Aquarius has 2 rulers also, Saturn/Uranus
Aries-Mars/Pluto
Scorpio-Mars/Pluto

My chart ruler is Venus, but Venus and my AC are conjunct Pluto....so im thinking my Chart ruler is Venus and Pluto.

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posted August 27, 2016 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According the that chart...
1)Venus 19.4%
2)Saturn 12.7%
3)Jupiter 9.5% both Pluto and Moon are nearly tied with Jupiter

Signs-
1)Libra 18.7%
2)Sagittarius 15.6%
3)Aries 11.8%

Element-
1)Fire 34.9%
2)Air 30.2%
3)Earth 20.5%
4)Water 14.4%

Mode-
1)Cardinal 38.3%
2)Mutable 34.5%
3)Fixed 27.2%

Even though my chart appears to be nearly Water void, its not!!

Thrse things are unaccounted for in this chart, giving me more water than is shown here...
Scorp NN
Pluto conjunct AC/3 degree unaccounted for
Neptune conjunct Sun
Neptune exact sextile Pluto(also sextile AC)
Moon virgo-unaspected in 12th is a very strong and watery moon!
Im very emotional but hide it well, and can be rational even with my irrational emotions.

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posted August 27, 2016 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Well, I tried... but didn't see any chart rulers....?


Do you see a part that looks like this:


In the chart above, saturn influence is the strongest, hence it ranks (1).

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posted August 27, 2016 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 27, 2016 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my top 3:

- planet
pluto 15%
sun 14%
neptune and saturn both 10%

- sign
cancer 15%
scorpio 14%
pisces and capricorn both 13%

- element
water 42%
earth 28%
fire and air both 14%

- mode
fixed 38.7%
cardinal 35.9%
mutable 25.4%

I very much agree with all. especially the dominant signs were spot on as I have a water grand trine in my chart.


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posted August 27, 2016 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer, Scorpio, Capricorn

but then it contradicts this by saying:

Moon, Jupiter, Neptune....

The others must be disposited?

I feel both. I internally feel Cancer, Scorpio, and Cap. I am very emotional, intense, and security driven. While my emotions rule my life (in a good way- guiding my decisions and choices through intuition), I do feel like a jupiter person- lots of enthusiasm and expansive interests. Neptune is in my 1st house, so I think I can appear to be many things to many people. I am a little Neptunian in my changing attitudes and adaptability. Sometimes I find it hard to distinguish what it is that "I" truly want versus being what the other person wants. That feels like a Neptune 1st house issue to me.

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posted August 27, 2016 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 12muddy:
Do you see a part that looks like this:


In the chart above, saturn influence is the strongest, hence it ranks (1).


Thanks muddy. I found out my rulers, according to the Pollen, are: Pluto, Mercury and Venus. I have no idea how to react to this, as I am used to the chart ruler, Sun ruler and Moon ruler, and have no idea how to relate. If I understood what these percentages mean, perhaps I would have known how to relate to these rulers. I am cancerian with a Pisces decan and SN in Pisces, and most people who try to guess my sign assume I am Pisces. So I don't know why my ruler is Pluto, ruler of Scorpio. Though, there was a time in my life some people thought I was Scorpio...

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