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outofideas
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posted August 30, 2016 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for outofideas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astra:
If he is accusing you of manipulating even after you told him the truth, then dump him. This guy is an emotional abuser. Cut ties with him. Tell him if that's what he thinks of you, then it's best for both of you to end the relationship. It's not healthy at all. You should've dumped him earlier when he accused you of manipulation after you told him a painful story about your past. He doesn't love you. Heck, he doesn't even like you as a friend.

I know it hurts to dump someone you love, but you have to do it for your own sanity. He will not get better with time. He isn't going to suddenly become loving and attentive. This man is not worth your time. He doesn't respect you even at the most basic level.


Ditch the c#nt right now! Scorpios are popular for their trust issues, manipulative behaviour, mind games etc... a relationship should be based on equality and both people should be stable personalities... by the sounds of it he is definitely not worth your time and fuss!

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charlie
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posted August 30, 2016 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm...

As I Cap Moon myself, I'll say this: it takes me forever to trust (lotta Pluto squares) but when I do, I like to open up and talk about my personal self. If at this point person I'm talking to belittle my past/feelings/ego/IQ/judgement/whatever, I WILL never trust them again and I will also slowly withdraw. In my opinion Cap Moons are far deeper than some Scorpios but without the bloody games. We take our sweet time but when we decide, that's it.

To OP: if I were you I'd never see him again. He has shown you who he is. And don't resort to the same level that he is playing..

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Cappi112
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posted August 30, 2016 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmm yeah, okay, I'll put it this way: An evolved Scorpio can be great, wise, intuitive, psychic, loyal and sexy as hell.

Any other Scorpio is going to ALSO be sexy as hell, intuitive and maybe psychic, but if unevolved, that's about it for the positive sides. They use their powers for evil, many of them.

If you choose to fight with one, or play games, or whatever it is you are doing, be prepared to lose. That's really it. If you're at the point of feeling his disdain/disrespect/ lack of love for you, it's dead. The only way you can 'win' with this guy is to walk away, and it sounds like you really have no choice.

Even when I 'won' with scorpios in the past, they still won. I surrendered. My Cap ex (who was scorpio ascendant and venus) was the last scorpio-driven person I'll ever be involved with. It's ended in tears and depression every time.

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Soltze
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posted September 03, 2016 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Refusing sex to a scorpio. So you want to be single asap I suppose. Blackmailing a plutonian with sex, you don't know what you're getting into, do you?

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posted September 03, 2016 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'd be outta there at the first accusation of faking tears. Total lack of respect and trust in the beginning equals worse disaster later on. You will never be emotionally safe with this man.

Yeah, how can you feel safe confiding in him if he does this? You deserve to be with someone who respects your feelings.

Being with people who try to minimize, trivialize or otherwise dismiss your feelings is an extremely unpleasant experience. I'm sure, as a Cappy moon - you already hold yourself to certain emotional standards. i.e. Keep your feelings under control, or censor their expression in some way. On top of that, if someone else comes in and says - no, your feelings aren't valid. That's twice the stifling.

I don't know him, or what his issues are - but if he can't deal with this now, it's a gamble to see if he will later.

I know it sucks to have "that" conversation. And maybe you don't even need to. Just distance yourself and see what happens. Does he "wake up"? Does he contact you? If he asks why, well, you have a lotta good reasons.

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polkadotstars
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posted September 03, 2016 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm guessing you're young? This is (blatantly speaking) an immature way to deal with a relationship problem. Withholding or punishing someone is manipulative. Your relationship drama probably stems from your side as well, problems go both ways. Scorpios aren't into playing games. I'd say cut ties and move on.

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Astra
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posted September 03, 2016 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Cappi112:
Hmmmm yeah, okay, I'll put it this way: An evolved Scorpio can be great, wise, intuitive, psychic, loyal and sexy as hell.

Any other Scorpio is going to ALSO be sexy as hell, intuitive and maybe psychic, but if unevolved, that's about it for the positive sides. They use their powers for evil, many of them.

If you choose to fight with one, or play games, or whatever it is you are doing, be prepared to lose. That's really it. If you're at the point of feeling his disdain/disrespect/ lack of love for you, it's dead. The only way you can 'win' with this guy is to walk away, and it sounds like you really have no choice.

Even when I 'won' with scorpios in the past, they still won. I surrendered. My Cap ex (who was scorpio ascendant and venus) was the last scorpio-driven person I'll ever be involved with. It's ended in tears and depression every time.


Are you talking about Scorpio Suns or people who have other planets in Scorpio? I'm a Gemini Sun/Capricorn moon with some Scorpio in my chart, but I've successfully defeated a number of Scorpios and reduced them to tears. Yes, they tried to retaliate of course, but I quickly shut them down and they backed off.

They are human, too. No sign is guaranteed to defeat all others. The most toxic person I ever met was my ex boyfriend who was a Leo (no planets in Scorpio). He was far more challenging to defeat than any Scorpio.

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PixieJane
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posted September 03, 2016 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm also unimpressed with Scorpio. Maybe it comes from having been raised by one so that I learned enough in dealing with those who insist on being an enemy or other unwelcome presence in my life. When I was younger I even took the statement "I always get revenge" as a glove thrown down for me to pick up...and in my more ignoble moments I picked it up. The only thing I regretted from it was shame at my own behavior (and realizing I was still dealing with anger issues at my mother who also fetishized revenge) rather than anything they did.

Overall I've found Scorpio unusually fragile, and more often delusional rather than intuitive...even here many say they're paranoid which is, by definition, delusional (even if the paranoia happens to be right doesn't mean that they were intuitive, just that the broken clock was right twice a day, and the worst of them actually push people into doing what they fear they will do anyway). And despite this (and despite all the "tests" they want to use) they can still trust the wrong people.

I have an astro-twin (at least by the standards of many people) born 3 days after me, which put her sun into Scorpio rather than Libra (and also her moon into Capricorn rather than Sag, other than that our charts are identical, save I don't know her ASC which I'm positive was different from mine), and she was so much more fragile and fearful than me, and she didn't survive. I tend to think her Scorpio sun had a lot to do with why she was so weak (at least from my perspective). Even when she "led" me I typically was the one to work out the plan and then be the fire to then make it happen. Left to her own devices she had a tendency to mope and whine. I feel bad for her and all, but that's an example of a Scorpio, and she makes me glad I was born a Libra instead.

Not that all Scorpios are that way (and have been very close to some, even found one in particular downright inspirational), but I'm not going to stand in awe just because someone is a Scorpio.

Also, I would not play games with a Scorpio (or anyone else). Anyone plays games with me, including "tests" by Scorpio (and to my way of thinking, to "pass" a Scorpio test is to fail), is out on their ear, too.

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