posted September 09, 2016 10:56 PM            

My chart
PLANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree
Sun Leo 20°15'46 in house 5
Moon Cancer 29°34'41 in house 4
Mercury Virgo 17°05'44 in house 6
Venus Cancer 11°51'17 in house 4
Mars Gemini 17°57'05 in house 2
Jupiter Gemini 28°41'44 in house 3
Saturn Leo 20°22'43 in house 5
Uranus Scorpio 8°01'13 in house 7
Neptune Sagittarius 13°24'44 in house 8
Pluto Libra 12°08'33 in house 6
True Node Libra 16°51'05 in house 6

HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Aries 21°56'55
2nd House Taurus 27°26'28
3rd House Gemini 20°51'37
Imum Coeli Cancer 11°13'52
5th House Leo 3°30'34
6th House Virgo 3°57'18
Descendant Libra 21°56'55
8th House Scorpio 27°26'28
9th House Sagittarius 20°51'37
Medium Coeli Capricorn 11°13'52
11th House Aquarius 3°30'34
12th House Pisces 3°57'18

His chart:

ANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree
Sun Scorpio 18°51'05 in house 5
Moon Cancer 4°19'45 in house 12
Mercury Scorpio 21°04'07 in house 5
Venus Sagittarius 25°59'22 in house 6
Mars Scorpio 22°59'38 in house 5
Jupiter Taurus 27°06'10 in house 11
Saturn Leo 16°37'04 end of house 1
Uranus Scorpio 8°11'18 in house 4
Neptune Sagittarius 12°46'52 in house 5
Pluto Libra 12°59'06 in house 4
True Node Scorpio 3°28'33 in house 4
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.

HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Cancer 28°02'54
2nd House Leo 17°22'35
3rd House Virgo 10°40'18
Imum Coeli Libra 10°39'58
5th House Scorpio 17°48'17
6th House Sagittarius 25°55'10
Descendant Capricorn 28°02'54
8th House Aquarius 17°22'35
9th House Pisces 10°40'18
Medium Coeli Aries 10°39'58
11th House Taurus 17°48'17
12th House Gemini 25°55'10

posted September 09, 2016 11:28 PM            

Yes, it is normal for Scorpios or Plutonians to seek revenge. You hurt him pretty badly by sleeping with your ex so he retaliated to make you feel his pain. Scorpios respect honesty, so before agreeing to get back together with him, you should have an honest discussion about where you stand with each other. If you want to get back together with him, make sure you both agree to start off on a clean slate (no mind games or further acts of revenge). The chances of this happening are pretty minimal with Scorpios. They never forget an act of betrayal. Unless he's very mature (doesn't sound like he is), he will forever suspect you of cheating.

In the future, I urge you completely end a relationship before you date or sleep with someone else for your own sake. You are very lucky that this Scorpio merely slept with someone else as revenge. My uncle (a Scorpio) attempted to murder my aunt when he merely suspected she was cheating. Even the more lighthearted signs can be very vicious and vengeful if they feel they have been made into fools. Please be careful!

posted September 09, 2016 11:39 PM            

And thank you for the advice. We have had some very candid conversation since all this and he was the one who reached out to me wanting me back and saying we are "even" now. And he even told me I crushed him. Which I'm sure is hard for a guy to admit 😢😩 hopefully we can turn it around although his "dark side" has always scared me a little. He's very jealous and can be a bit stalkerish. But our personalities compliment each other so well. I'm sunny and cheerful and he's sort of doom and gloom and laid back and so we even each other out. Do you read charts at all? Did we look compatible? Was his retaliation normal? And oh my goodness that is so scary about your Uncle. Yes the dark side of this Scorpio scares me. I've seen other almost borderline emotionally abusive behavior from him at times when he gets jealous.

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Originally posted by Astra:
So he slept with an ex after you slept with your ex? It sounds like he has already retaliated. However, I don't know whether he is done retaliating.

Yes, it is normal for Scorpios or Plutonians to seek revenge. You hurt him pretty badly by sleeping with your ex so he retaliated to make you feel his pain. Scorpios respect honesty, so before agreeing to get back together with him, you should have an honest discussion about where you stand with each other. If you want to get back together with him, make sure you both agree to start off on a clean slate (no mind games or further acts of revenge). The chances of this happening are pretty minimal with Scorpios. They never forget an act of betrayal. Unless he's very mature (doesn't sound like he is), he will forever suspect you of cheating.

In the future, I urge you completely end a relationship before you date or sleep with someone else for your own sake. You are very lucky that this Scorpio merely slept with someone else as revenge. My uncle (a Scorpio) attempted to murder my aunt when he merely suspected she was cheating. Even the more lighthearted signs can be very vicious and vengeful if they feel they have been made into fools. Please be careful!

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posted September 10, 2016 06:28 AM            

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Originally posted by scorpiogirl:
DUMP HIM

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posted September 10, 2016 06:45 AM            

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Originally posted by joyful1:
Thanks Astra. We were never completely exclusive in my mind. He had told me he wanted to be bf/gf and that we were working towards that and then when he said he fell in love with me but backed way off and was cancelling dates, I assumed he wasn't into me anymore and that's when I dated my ex.

And thank you for the advice. We have had some very candid conversation since all this and he was the one who reached out to me wanting me back and saying we are "even" now. And he even told me I crushed him. Which I'm sure is hard for a guy to admit 😢😩 hopefully we can turn it around although his "dark side" has always scared me a little. He's very jealous and can be a bit stalkerish. But our personalities compliment each other so well. I'm sunny and cheerful and he's sort of doom and gloom and laid back and so we even each other out. Do you read charts at all? Did we look compatible? Was his retaliation normal? And oh my goodness that is so scary about your Uncle. Yes the dark side of this Scorpio scares me. I've seen other almost borderline emotionally abusive behavior from him at times when he gets jealous.

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Joyful, I'm honestly not that great at reading charts. Based on planet positions only, you both have moon in cancer, which is awesome since you will understand each other's emotions. Yes, it's normal for an immature Scorpio to retaliate in the manner that he did, but immature Scorpios are the most dangerous, so watch out. How old is this guy? If he's 26+ and still behaving this way, then that's a bit odd that he is retaliating in such a childish way.

It makes sense that you thought the relationship was over since he was backing off. It is a bit odd that he was cancelling dates after declaring his love for you. Scorpios are normally unapologetic regarding their emotions.

posted September 10, 2016 07:22 AM            

Sun square Sun is strong, Ascendants are square by Sign and with both having Cancer Moons it will be too difficult to forgive and forget.

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posted September 10, 2016 09:06 AM            

QUOTE]Originally posted by scorpiogirl:
DUMP HIM[/QUOTE]

posted September 10, 2016 09:07 AM            

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posted September 10, 2016 09:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Astra:
So he slept with an ex after you slept with your ex? It sounds like he has already retaliated. However, I don't know whether he is done retaliating.

....... You are very lucky that this Scorpio merely slept with someone else as revenge. My uncle (a Scorpio) attempted to murder my aunt when he merely suspected she was cheating.

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YIKES. To me, it doesn't sound like you were together with the Scorpio when you slept with your ex, and it sounds like he was being VERY immature/unhealthy/game-playing before it even got to that point.

It's not just about Scorpio placements or being Plutonic. Immature people with a Cancer moon get very jealous, game-playing, and self-protective, and "test" the relationship by pulling away. (I have a Cancer moon and can get like this when I feel insecure in love.). With all your Cancer, you understand that kind of sensitivity. But as a Leo woman with Gemini Mars, you need a guy who's just more laid back and fun-loving and able to risk his heart. Maybe a guy with fire and air and then Pisces placements to complement your Cancer.

I think he was testing you when he pulled away, and then he punished you when you didn't pass the test.

posted September 10, 2016 09:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Astra:
[b]Joyful, I'm honestly not that great at reading charts. Based on planet positions only, you both have moon in cancer, which is awesome since you will understand each other's emotions. Yes, it's normal for an immature Scorpio to retaliate in the manner that he did, but immature Scorpios are the most dangerous, so watch out. How old is this guy? If he's 26+ and still behaving this way, then that's a bit odd that he is retaliating in such a childish way.

It makes sense that you thought the relationship was over since he was backing off. It is a bit odd that he was cancelling dates after declaring his love for you. Scorpios are normally unapologetic regarding their emotions.

The part about your second post that concerns me is his "borderline emotionally abusive" behavior. You should never tolerate abusive behavior from someone no matter how amazing they seem. A guy should make you feel amazing! If I were in your shoes, I would probably dump him. If you choose to stay with him, please be very careful. It will be much more difficult to break up with him later. It doesn't sound like this guy is the type to handle breakups well. [/B]

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posted September 10, 2016 09:15 AM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
This is not going to work out. There is a strong chance that the only reason he wants to get back with you is so that he can break up in a more vengeful manner.

Sun square Sun is strong, Ascendants are square by Sign and with both having Cancer Moons it will be too difficult to forgive and forget.

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posted September 10, 2016 09:16 AM            

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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
yep, get rid of him..

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posted September 10, 2016 09:24 AM            

And you hit the nail on the head with the type of guy I need. I tend to date Aquarius (sun sign wise).

This Scorpio and I had insane chemistry and I liked that he was laid back in some ways and that we were complete opposites in a lot of ways. Also, My optimism brought up his negativity and doom and gloom and it made me feel good. I'd like to see where it goes but his retaliation and seeing that "dark" side of him come out numerous times when he got jealous scared me. On the flip side, I can also get jealous so I related pretty well to that, the only difference is I don't resort to the tactics he did/does

Thanks

QUOTE]Originally posted by Lucia23:
YIKES. To me, it doesn't sound like you were together with the Scorpio when you slept with your ex, and it sounds like he was being VERY immature/unhealthy/game-playing before it even got to that point.

It's not just about Scorpio placements or being Plutonic. Immature people with a Cancer moon get very jealous, game-playing, and self-protective, and "test" the relationship by pulling away. (I have a Cancer moon and can get like this when I feel insecure in love.). With all your Cancer, you understand that kind of sensitivity. But as a Leo woman with Gemini Mars, you need a guy who's just more laid back and fun-loving and able to risk his heart. Maybe a guy with fire and air and then Pisces placements to complement your Cancer.

I think he was testing you when he pulled away, and then he punished you when you didn't pass the test.

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posted September 10, 2016 10:50 AM            

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Okay! Lol. You seem pretty sure about this?!

QUOTE]Originally posted by scorpiogirl:
[b]DUMP HIM

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Yes. I read the rest of your posts and he sounds like a horrible person. And he has a child too while behaving like this? Don't waste your energy on him. You have concerns about abusive behaviour from him which is a big, fat, red flag. You're lucky that you sniffed this out from the beginning. Just don't.

posted September 10, 2016 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by joyful1:
Astra: thank you for that! And yes he's older then me and in his 30's so I was quite surprised in the manner he acted as well. Although a part of me gets it because I hurt him so he wanted to hurt me in return and he did the same thing I did. It surprised me that after that he seemed fine and wanted us to continue dating. And his reasons for cancelling dates seemed legit (work and child) however I had let him know I felt rejected by that and he should just not have scheduled a date rather than make one and cancel. When we are together we've always had fun and the emotions run very high between us there is a lot of chemistry in every way, we never had an issue and really complimented each other well. When we are apart and he gets jealous is when the problems occur. And in this relationship I've gotten jealous as well just not in the same manner.

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He's in his 30s and has a child and he's still acting like this?! Girl, just run. I dated a man like that (he was a Leo) and it was horrible to break up with him. He stalked me for 3 years until I finally made him have a nervous breakdown.

posted September 10, 2016 01:28 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
There is a strong chance that the only reason he wants to get back with you is so that he can break up in a more vengeful manner.

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Not to be negative, but this was my thought as well. Revenge is never equal to the offense. It comes with a second helping, and a third. Just to drive the point home.

I cannot advise you either for or against getting back together with him.. That's up to you, and how strong your feelings are for him.
But be careful..!

The squared suns show through in this example too, in a way.. You "default" assumption was that you guys were not exclusive, since you hadn't had the talk and all. His basic assumption, was the opposite. Can't generalise too much, but Scorps feel like they shouldn't have to verbalize that you are exclusive. That's just obvious, and you should feel it rather than say it.

I'd say just communicate about whatever it is you think is happening up-front, otherwise it leads to confusion such as this..

posted September 11, 2016 12:00 AM            

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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
yep, get rid of him..

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posted September 11, 2016 12:11 AM            

Thank you so much. You're spot on with what you are saying. I felt the same way, that I was lucky to see the signs early and I told him when I broke it off that I couldn't talk to him anymore, that I still had feelings for him. A couple days later after giving me space he's trying to get me back. And the emotional side of me likes that and is flattered and also thinks maybe I should give him another chance, that we all make mistakes. However the logical side knows I've seen those actions in him and as a grown man in his late 30's he's probably not going to change.

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Originally posted by scorpiogirl:
Yes. I read the rest of your posts and he sounds like a horrible person. And he has a child too while behaving like this? Don't waste your energy on him. You have concerns about abusive behaviour from him which is a big, fat, red flag. You're lucky that you sniffed this out from the beginning. Just don't.

ETA: Now that he has done the same to you (on purpose, not like what you did) he's all fine because his ego has been restored. So now you can continue. Very, very petty and immature.

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posted September 11, 2016 12:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Astra:
He's in his 30s and has a child and he's still acting like this?! Girl, just run. I dated a man like that (he was a Leo) and it was horrible to break up with him. He stalked me for 3 years until I finally made him have a nervous breakdown.

If a man is still acting like he's in his teens/early 20s despite being in his 30s, then he is never going to grow up. He even has a child, which should've made him grow up a bit. He also should be at an age where he knows how to communicate effectively. If he was cancelling dates because he was busy (I don't buy this), then he could've told you that. He should be able to express himself better than a teenager. This entire mess could have been prevented if he had just simply told you that he wasn't breaking up with you and that he merely felt embarrassed about saying he loved you a bit early.

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posted September 11, 2016 12:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
Not to be negative, but this was my thought as well. Revenge is never equal to the offense. It comes with a second helping, and a third. Just to drive the point home.

I cannot advise you either for or against getting back together with him.. That's up to you, and how strong your feelings are for him.
But be careful..!

The squared suns show through in this example too, in a way.. You "default" assumption was that you guys were not exclusive, since you hadn't had the talk and all. His basic assumption, was the opposite. Can't generalise too much, but Scorps feel like they shouldn't have to verbalize that you are exclusive. That's just obvious, and you should feel it rather than say it.

I'd say just communicate about whatever it is you think is happening up-front, otherwise it leads to confusion such as this..

Do let us know what you decide, and what happens after...

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posted September 11, 2016 12:21 AM            

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Originally posted by missblyss:
All I will till you, with my experience with scorpios, which is extensive. I've had 2 scorpio best friends and 5/8 guys Ive slept with have been scorpios...

They NEVER forget... and they will never fully let go...

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