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DopGang
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posted September 11, 2016 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^
I agree. For now I just decided that as long as everyone is otherwise on the same page then live and let be.

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Ceridwen
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posted September 11, 2016 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly.

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hypatia238
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posted September 11, 2016 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I listen.

And you are right. Here is a mixing up between whole sign ASTROLOGY and whole sign HOUSES. I think it is really the whole sign houses that is being discussed here though.


So in whole sign house system can my Saturn in Scorpio conjunct my pluto in Libra? If you approach whole sign house system then does that mean you go by the whole sign astrology system?

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anonymidarkness
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posted September 11, 2016 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It places my stellium in 5th house. Yayyy!! After having spent 6 years in Astrology and moving on from it, I finally found a house placement description for my Sun that I can actually relate to, could never relate to being a 4th house Sun and all that family, land crap. 5th house Sun fits me much better. My whole life has revolved around Art, Music, Sports and people with Leo placements, this kind of explains it but I do have a 5th house Venus even in placidus. My chart does look much better now, no more boring 4th house **** ! This actually would place 7 of my planets in Fire Houses, and gives me much needed Fire( I'm a fire void). And plenty of drama to add to it, har, har!

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goatcat
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posted September 11, 2016 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know exactly how you feel because WHOLE SIGNS ASTROLOGY moves my 4th house to the 5th house as well.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted September 12, 2016 02:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I use this system now. And it has been quite interesting.

My chart has Aries on the 1st house cusp and therefore everything falls in its place.

I certainly relate to each description. But am still examining transits to really be sure

Jupiter is transiting the 7th house now and this is the house of opening up to others and projecting an optimistic jovial attitude for the next two years.

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posted September 12, 2016 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sccs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My chart makes a lot more sense with the whole system

I have a stellium in 6 with placidus and its in the 7th with whole house.
And I certainly feel like a stellium in the 7th
Huge issues with relationships feeling like I live according to everyone else but me and ending up being a loner...

Also chiron in the 1st instead of the 12th makes a lot of sense.

As for the rest both could apply

So I dont really know what to think
If I was born one hour earlier i would have had this stellium in 7th and chiron in the 1st
So maybe thats why
Because for other people im not sure it applies

I wish we could have definite answers about domification and astrology rules *sigh*

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Dancing Maenad
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posted September 12, 2016 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri & Belage,

I have 7 fire planets. Seven. Can you explain how the hell I'd be so much of an introvert with them placed in earth and air houses? Because I can't see a way. And no, the Asc is not that powerful. If we go by Placidus, I have Aqua intercepted and guess what, I'm not very friendly and sociable.

I am still not 100% sure about WS but it's the closest a house system has gotten to explain my personality and behaviour.

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DopGang
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posted September 12, 2016 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, let me ask this question.

With whole sign house, my Venus, mercury, mars are all first house.
So do I seem like a first house Venus, mercury, mars to you?

That's a pretty drastic change if you ask me. Maybe not mars. It's barely 12th by less than a degree.

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mirage29
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posted September 12, 2016 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DM... Your 12th Capricorn works 'in the background' ... Would add to your feeling like all-work, and little time for play.
Could your Moon-Neptune bring men in your life who disguise who they really are (meaning, you could tend to attract addicts, drunks, and men who tend to be derelict in their duty to you, or any child you would conceive 'before' you get the grasp of what it is you really want?). You ARE a strong healer, and medicine woman (whoahhhhh, your chart SAYS "doctor".... and sacrificing. Also attraction to spiritual philosophies yet still feeling awkward in it about the choices you make trying to fill that need for yourself.

Your Progressed chart (which I don't know) would give you MORE clues about the shifting energies and soul longings for your life. At around the age (I'm guessing) you are?, you have entered the corridor of start of some midlife transits. This can begin to change some of the way you view things, as you get ready to enter a different phase of your development.

You P'Sun is Gemini now? ... You would have shifted your P'Ascendant too. And your P'Moon and the Cycle of that WHOLE Lunar focus, can shift you too.

I have such empathy for you.... Being a strong and solid woman, you deal concretely with reality automatically... and you ARE a sensitive soul inside you who WANTS and needs companionship, YET, can you FIND or attract someone who can 'be there' for you, while you MUST continue your Strong Journey.

Sending you hug!!!! (and a song below, of course! *grin*)


Thanks for sharing your Charts--- how RICH an experience that was for me to spend time with those. I love some of these thinkings (duhhhh, is that a word??? LMAO, Merc!!!). These reports of how it works, and what doesn't, is Valuable. So, Gratitudes to those who have put in thoughts here. Reading and Relishing!!

For DM, whom I admire VERY much... and wish the MOST for! (you deserve it)

(music) Are You Strong Enough To Be My Man (Sheryl Crow, Stevie Nicks, live 1998) [4:20] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCYAuTFjAL8

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goatcat
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posted September 12, 2016 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems the best way to look at placidus vs. whole sign houses is to just combine the two.
When I go to CafeAstrology I relate to both descriptions of the houses.

I look at my placidus houses as my psychology, my mental state from my upbringing
And my whole sign houses as who I really am, the active result of my upbringing and psychology.

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posted September 13, 2016 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sccs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree!
Its a subtle combination of both

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kewf1988
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posted September 14, 2016 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kewf1988     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it depends on the location. For me, the Placidus is more accurate as I was born in California, and Placidus fits the people I know better (plus I'd have Sun in 10th and Saturn and Neptune in the 5th in whole sign system, and Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune in the 4th is VERY accurate, which is where they are in Placidus). However, for places closer to the north and south poles, the whole sign system works better as Placidus creates gigantic and small houses for people born in those areas.

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