posted September 16, 2016 11:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Liliya:
So basically everyone feels plutonian except for Bonsai hahah who could have thought

So I have a question, do you guys have ANY other planet aspects? If you think that a few minor aspects make you Plutonian, do you also consider yourself Mercurian ou Venusian? Just curious.

My husband has a Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Pluto and POF sll conjunct in 10H. Is he Sun(ian), Mercurian, Jupiterian, Plutonian or influenced by Saturn?

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posted September 17, 2016 12:11 AM              

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Originally posted by Liliya:
So basically everyone feels plutonian except for Bonsai hahah who could have thought

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Hahah. I feel Mercurial/Saturnine if anything. I'm Mercaturn or Satury.

posted September 17, 2016 12:27 AM              

In my chart, Pluto is somewhat heavily aspected.

In 3h
Quincunx Sun
Opposite Venus
Trine Mercury
Square Saturn
Sextile Neptune (like everyone else)
Trine Vesta

My Sun is also in 8h, and as it's quincunx Pluto, I believe the house placement adds a bit, even without the aspect.

I ACT Plutonian, really. I suppose that's my primary indicator, in addition to my chart.

posted September 17, 2016 12:29 AM              

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
How many aspect does it take to make someone a Plutonian?

Which aspects? Which houses? Other?

What do you think?

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posted September 17, 2016 12:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
He's stellian.

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posted September 17, 2016 01:11 AM              

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Originally posted by Liliya:
The reason for my previous post is that everyone always wants to be Plutonian. It's understandable why, especially judging by current media influence. People hardly ever associate themselves with the other planets. How many people jump in with a few minor aspects saying "I consider myself *insert another planet other than Pluto*-ian. Just a food for thought...

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posted September 17, 2016 03:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Liliya:
So basically everyone feels plutonian except for Bonsai hahah who could have thought

So I have a question, do you guys have ANY other planet aspects? If you think that a few minor aspects make you Plutonian, do you also consider yourself Mercurian ou Venusian? Just curious.

My husband has a Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Pluto and POF sll conjunct in 10H. Is he Sun(ian), Mercurian, Jupiterian, Plutonian or influenced by Saturn?

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Depends on sign, if one of the planets or a few are closer to the MH, it could dominate or be more obvious/prominent, all of the planets are blended together though.. So they would all be significant. When a lot of planets are involved it's hard to really try to separate them, I understand because I have a lot of conjunctions in my chart and a 7 planet t-square. I think the closer any planet is to an angle, the more potent its influence is on the individual and their life

My rising is in Taurus, Libra sun conjunct Mars and Mercury. My Mercury is at 29' Virgo and placed in my 6th house, and my moons in Virgo.
Chart ruler Venus is in Scorpio conjunct Pluto on DC
Mars is closely parallel Pluto by 0'6 seconds along wit my sun/Mercury too

I have a hard time only focusing on one dominant planet since multiple planets are so strong in influence and placement. There's no doubt Mars/Pluto are strong, but so are Venus/Mercury, and when I do those chart calculations that tell u ur dominants I always get Saturn as #1 which is always surprising to me because my MH is in Capricorn and my Saturn is in Capricorn placed in the 9th house and loaded with aspects, literally to every aspect/angle, Saturn is also conjunct Neptune, as well as Uranus which are square my sun/Mars/merc. BUT Jupiter also comes up because it's placed in cancer and the head planet in my bowl chart, also making an aspect to every planet, 0' sextile to my ASC.

posted September 17, 2016 07:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Liliya:
The reason for my previous post is that everyone always wants to be Plutonian. It's understandable why, especially judging by current media influence. People hardly ever associate themselves with the other planets. How many people jump in with a few minor aspects saying "I consider myself *insert another planet other than Pluto*-ian. Just a food for thought...

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Saturnine
Uranian
Neptunian
Plutonian

Those are the ones I hear...outer planets. Maybe because people consider their sun the major inner planet, and also...

Solarian seems redundant (of course you are like your sun sign)
Mercurial has another meaning
Venusian sounds conceited even if you are one
Martian sounds like
Jupiterian has too many syllables. Just say Sag.

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In my case I have a splash chart, and most of the planets aspect each other, so it's hard to pull any one planet out and declare it special. Even Pullen doesn't know which way is up. Sun is my #1 planet but Saturn is #10. And I'm a Capricorn.

My sun is square Pluto and Jupiter. Sun square Jupiter is relatively easy, you just overdo everything. Sun square Pluto is not easy, it's extreme. The readings on it sound like a serious illness and usually assume OCD and socially inappropriate behavior:
http://darkstarastrology.com/sun-square-opposition-pluto/

^ Automatically caricaturized as the worst kind of Scorpio.

posted September 17, 2016 01:51 PM              

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And hey, we can say I'm not Plutonian, I wouldn't wanna be a wannabe, but all my Pluto remains, and I think I've lived a Plutonian life (lots of death, especially.)

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Ditto. I don't talk about the darkest experiences I've had. Period. I hire a therapist for that stuff.

posted September 17, 2016 03:57 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
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I saw what you did ☻

posted September 17, 2016 04:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Saturnine
Uranian
Neptunian
Plutonian

Those are the ones I hear...outer planets. Maybe because people consider their sun the major inner planet, and also...

Solarian seems redundant (of course you are like your sun sign)
Mercurial has another meaning
Venusian sounds conceited even if you are one
Martian sounds like
Jupiterian has too many syllables. Just say Sag.

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In my case I have a splash chart, and most of the planets aspect each other, so it's hard to pull any one planet out and declare it special. Even Pullen doesn't know which way is up. Sun is my #1 planet but Saturn is #10. And I'm a Capricorn.

My sun is square Pluto and Jupiter. Sun square Jupiter is relatively easy, you just overdo everything. Sun square Pluto is not easy, it's extreme. The readings on it sound like a serious illness and usually assume OCD and socially inappropriate behavior:
http://darkstarastrology.com/sun-square-opposition-pluto/

^ Automatically caricaturized as the worst kind of Scorpio.

And hey, we can say I'm not Plutonian, I wouldn't wanna be a wannabe, but all my Pluto remains, and I think I've lived a Plutonian life (lots of death, especially.)

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Don't get mad at me.. But the outter planets are
Uranus
Neptune
And Pluto (I understand why Saturn was thrown in, it's virtually out there with these guys and so damn far away.. But still visible and considered 7 traditional ruler..)

And.. I don't understand how calling yourself within ur planet rulers "sounding" a certain way, like solarians being redundant?
If a person has their sun in Aries, conjunct their MH and they obviously have the physical and characteristic traits of the sun, and they claim to be solarian, I wouldn't consider it redundant. Even if it's just a Leo sun and someone identifies with that, I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around why you would think those things about a planets energies by the "way it sounds when a person claims to identify with the planet" instead of the actual planetary meanings.. If a girl has her Venus conjunct one of her angles and has placements in Venus ruled signs and calls herself "Venusian" I wouldn't think she was "conceited" or full of herself, I would think she has the planet personalized and try to see how it effects her physically/mentally. And when I find validation in these ancient studies, it makes me love astrology all the more and is a constant process of cross examination and observational study.. maybe I'm just missing something or digging too deep.

It's like throwing in subjective meaning and bias to planetary archetypes and symbolism that people find a way to identify with and at that point where do we diffrinciate between someone's "feelings" toward a meaning, and what's actually been observed and identified with an archetype, which is infinite in the first place.

posted September 17, 2016 04:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I saw what you did ☻

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posted September 17, 2016 06:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Saturnine
Uranian
Neptunian
Plutonian

Those are the ones I hear...outer planets. Maybe because people consider their sun the major inner planet, and also...

Solarian seems redundant (of course you are like your sun sign)
Mercurial has another meaning
Venusian sounds conceited even if you are one
Martian sounds like
Jupiterian has too many syllables. Just say Sag.

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In my case I have a splash chart, and most of the planets aspect each other, so it's hard to pull any one planet out and declare it special. Even Pullen doesn't know which way is up. Sun is my #1 planet but Saturn is #10. And I'm a Capricorn.

My sun is square Pluto and Jupiter. Sun square Jupiter is relatively easy, you just overdo everything. Sun square Pluto is not easy, it's extreme. The readings on it sound like a serious illness and usually assume OCD and socially inappropriate behavior:
http://darkstarastrology.com/sun-square-opposition-pluto/

^ Automatically caricaturized as the worst kind of Scorpio.

And hey, we can say I'm not Plutonian, I wouldn't wanna be a wannabe, but all my Pluto remains, and I think I've lived a Plutonian life (lots of death, especially.)

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Solarian is not redundant for a Leo!! I'm definitely more Solarian than Plutonian....and the airy ex I described earlier in this thread (Scorp Rising, 8h Moon, Sun-Pluto, Moon-Pluto etc) is more other things than Plutonian--he's very Mercurial and Uranian (11h Sun) and especially Venusian.

posted September 17, 2016 07:42 PM            

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Originally posted by BeholdAstarte:
I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around why you would think those things about a planets energies by the "way it sounds when a person claims to identify with the planet" instead of the actual planetary meanings..

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Yeah...I was just being goofy. The question was, "Why don't people identify as these other words?" and I was tossing out theories. Anyone's guess is as good as mine!

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Originally posted by BeholdAstarte:
Maybe I'm thinking too much into it? I hope I don't offend you..

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posted September 17, 2016 07:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Ditto. I don't talk about the darkest experiences I've had. Period. I hire a therapist for that stuff.

How very Plutonian of me.

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posted September 17, 2016 08:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Liliya:
The reason for my previous post is that everyone always wants to be Plutonian. It's understandable why, especially judging by current media influence. People hardly ever associate themselves with the other planets. How many people jump in with a few minor aspects saying "I consider myself *insert another planet other than Pluto*-ian. Just a food for thought...

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posted September 18, 2016 04:50 AM            

I am more Lunar (Lunatic lol) and Mercury-influenced, and Uranian than Plutonian.

However I feel Pluto very strongly because of it squaring my Moon&Mars conjunction. Also it's part of a stellium in Libra, but I don't think that's so relevant here.