posted September 18, 2016 02:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Oh yes and back to your question. Uranus in the 4th suggests that you may not be attached to home as much as others. Blood ties may not be enough to have you sacrifice all and stick your neck out.

Perhaps you moved around a lot when younger or have a more objective view about home that does not include emotional sentiment because of blood relations or ancestral belonging etc. Maybe because of the atmosphere during your upbringin?

Whatever the cause is, your view of family and where you belong (4th)is more tied into intellectual affinity and mutual understanding(Uranus) than blood relations. And could be viewed by others as "odd".Check aspects to Moon as well as the Cancer cusp

Now with the ruler of the 7th in the 4th, this means that the two houses are connected by the same attitude you have for both in your life.

You may treat relationships like family(4th). Or build your family (4th) around your relationships(7th).

So moving in (4th) with close friends or your partner(7th) is not unusual with this placement. But it is not nearly as sentimental as one may think.

Those relationships are not built on sentiment as one would expect with the 4th house connection.But perhaps on shared ideals and ideas(Uranus).

If you are close with family members, it could be because they share your ideals. If not, they are likely to be just "people you are related to". As when someone shares your own intellectual vision(Uranus), they feel more like home than any blood relation you have(4th).

With Uranus ruling the7th, you may follow your partner to wherever they go. And that may even include moving to another state, country or continent with them. Because they(7th) are where you feel you belong(4th).

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posted September 18, 2016 03:36 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Thanks for your explanation I have Moon semisquare Uranus. But I'm not sure how to check the Cancer Cusps. I do have Cancer in the 12 house though. You said that I may follow my partner where they go. Or that I may move to another state, country or continent with them. Does that also mean that I could move to another state just to be with a partner?

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I am weary of making any predictions. Just looking at possible interpretations. As you know yourself better than I do and can discern if the interpretation is on target or way off

Do u agree with Uranus in 4th suggesting an aloof attachment towards home and perhaps even suggesting a tendency for one to just "up and move"?

Do you agree that the ruler of the 7th house in the 4th connects your partneships to your sense of home?

So u are fine with a partnership(7th) that is prone to some instability and erratic disturbances (Aquarius) i.e even long distance is something you would be comfortable with(4th)

With Cancer on the cusp of the 12th,an affinity with a foreign or distant land is also not uncommon. But is only one interpretation of this placement and is not cast in stone.

The other interpretation is that one can feel(Cancer) very distant(12th) from the area of life that the Moon is in i.e emotions, feelings, connection and sentiment etc.

Or one could find there is some inability(12th) in establishing any firm and consistant emotional rapport(Cancer) with the house that the Moon is in.

The 4th house, Moon and Cancer have an affinity to each other. So connect the dots here and see if there is a thread that suggests detachment,aloofness or a certain kind of disengagement because of Uranus in 4th

So with the 12th house cusp in Cancer, Moon aspecting Uranus and Uranus in 4th. I already see a pattern of someone who is not likely to attach themselves emotionally to things.

If the 12th house cusp ruler(the Moon) is in the 6th, the person may feel that the work they do is hard to connect with emotionally. Or they feel emotionally taxed/ compromised by it because of conditions surrounding it i.e working(6th) at night(12th) or having to move around(12th) for work(6th) etc.

If the Moon is in 7th, the person may feel that the partner/close friend they have is hard to get close to or emotionally distant either because of physical distance , inability to depend on them, the partner moving around a lot or being emotionally impenetratable(12th).

The partner (7th)could be in another country(12th) the partner(7th) could be in a mental asylum(12th), the partner (7th) could be from another racial group(12th) or the partner(7th)could be incapacitated in some way(12th).

Whatever it might be, the suggestion is that the possibility of the full enjoyment or continueance of the relations between them and the partner is strained or requires conscious effort as emotional disruptions, interruptions and challenges are likely.

If the Moon is in the 4th house, the person may feel distant from their home, place of birth and country. There could be a feeling of searching for home, but not finding much peace. There is a possibility of even moving abroad to find "home".

The home(Moon) could be in another country(12th), there could be a missing(12th) maternal figure(Moon). The mother(Moon) could be incapable of being there for them(12th) or there could be a dissolution(12th) of the actual physical dwelling place(Moon) or foundation.

Whatever the reason is, the feeling of being homeless and not belonging anywhere is highlighted. Especially if Chiron is in the 4th, aspects the Moon or is in Cancer too.

Try and piece it together for yourself and see if it makes sense and if there is an overlap of themes.

posted September 18, 2016 04:22 PM            

- marriage?
I don't really see the point, as the first thing I look for in a lover is friendship

- kids?
I am not sure about them..I get along well with them but I much rather adopt or raise a partner's kid (I have natal moon square venus and am empty 5th house though)

- love?
I make fun of all kinds of romantics gestures! I want lots of goofiness, craziness and laughter

- closeness?
I much rather have my own space for the majority of the day, and then let them take over my nights (or days, or evenings hehehe!)

- I also need my partner to be a social person with many friends and a smartie who is good with tools too

- am I faithful?
if I find them truly dedicated to me, I am. but if I sense that my needs aren't fully met, I don't hesitate to abruptly leave and shock the other person who was supposing everything was going perfectly!

posted September 18, 2016 04:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I have retrograde Mercury in Cap myself in the natal chart and I am not sure or have not reached any clarity to what it actually means to have this position in comparison to it being direct etc.

But if the ruler of the 7th house is in the 6th, it suggests that relationships(7th) can feel like an obstacle(6th).

Because the 6th house is the 12th house from the 7th,there is a sort of challenge with this position as the 6th is where the 7th house comes to "dissolve" or disappear.

So Uranus in 6th suggest a "what can go wrong can go wrong" effect to the 6th house i.e sudden illnesses,sporadic accidents(at work),last minute changes,unusual diseases or perhaps also when one works(6th)in an environment that is categorized by chaos (Uranus),constant improvising or things hardly ever being stable.

Uranus in 6th is the employee who is sort of like the maverick and may end up going their own way. So they need plenty of space, independence and lee way to do their own thing or they will get bored.

It may also suggest one who works(6th)with their partner(7th house ruler is Uranus). And the relations between them and the partner are quite unpredictable and unstable. Or their partnership produces an end-result that is revolutionary and profound

Uranus ruling the 7th is unusual in essence when it comes to what is important for them in relationships(7th). So the ruler of the 7th in 6th, means that the same approach is adopted to matters of the 6th.

The reason that I said it could be challenging,is because of the nature of planets in the 6th.

The 6th deals with what we try to control, try to get right and constantly have to monitor. And Uranus is not a planet that is easily "controlled" or delegated to.

Your work(6th) should represent your ideals(Uranus). And your partner(7th) should share your ideals(Aquarius).

You will love to work with someone and share your ideas with them. If they "get you", its heaven and you two can really make outstanding work.

If not,it can feel like the fights and arguments never end.

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You're good! It's funny because when I was texting this one guy, I mentioned that I loved how I could tell him my ideas. The problem was that he didn't know how to give me some ideas back so I know I don't want him as a long term partner. I love being able to bounce ideas off of someone and bringing those ideas to life. I've daydreamed many many times about working with my partner and doing something very humanitarian.

When you mentioned working with a partner, it's weird because I've always felt like I would meet someone in my workplace. I'm beginning to also think I might meet someone when I'm just going about my day, like at the gym, grocery store, and what not.

I do feel like relationships can be a challenge. I always thought it could be my Venus/Pluto and/or my 12th house planets.

posted September 18, 2016 04:38 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
we didn't get married thankfully as my secret wish came true and he was forced to move to another city

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There were times when I wished the guys I were involved with would move away! Lol

I thought I was the only one!

posted September 18, 2016 04:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I am weary of making any predictions. Just looking at possible interpretations. As you know yourself better than I do and can discern if the interpretation is on target or way off

Do u agree with Uranus in 4th suggesting an aloof attachment towards home and perhaps even suggesting a tendency for one to just "up and move"?

Do you agree that the ruler of the 7th house in the 4th connects your partneships to your sense of home?

So u are fine with a partnership(7th) that is prone to some instability and erratic disturbances (Aquarius) i.e even long distance is something you would be comfortable with(4th)

With Cancer on the cusp of the 12th,an affinity with a foreign or distant land is also not uncommon. But is only one interpretation of this placement and is not cast in stone.

The other interpretation is that one can feel(Cancer) very distant(12th) from the area of life that the Moon is in i.e emotions, feelings, connection and sentiment etc.

Or one could find there is some inability(12th) in establishing any firm and consistant emotional rapport(Cancer) with the house that the Moon is in.

The 4th house, Moon and Cancer have an affinity to each other. So connect the dots here and see if there is a thread that suggests detachment,aloofness or a certain kind of disengagement because of Uranus in 4th

So with the 12th house cusp in Cancer, Moon aspecting Uranus and Uranus in 4th. I already see a pattern of someone who is not likely to attach themselves emotionally to things.

If the 12th house cusp ruler(the Moon) is in the 6th, the person may feel that the work they do is hard to connect with emotionally. Or they feel emotionally taxed/ compromised by it because of conditions surrounding it i.e working(6th) at night(12th) or having to move around(12th) for work(6th) etc.

If the Moon is in 7th, the person may feel that the partner/close friend they have is hard to get close to or emotionally distant either because of physical distance , inability to depend on them, the partner moving around a lot or being emotionally impenetratable(12th).

The partner (7th)could be in another country(12th) the partner(7th) could be in a mental asylum(12th), the partner (7th) could be from another racial group(12th) or the partner(7th)could be incapacitated in some way(12th).

Whatever it might be, the suggestion is that the possibility of the full enjoyment or continueance of the relations between them and the partner is strained or requires conscious effort as emotional disruptions, interruptions and challenges are likely.

If the Moon is in the 4th house, the person may feel distant from their home, place of birth and country. There could be a feeling of searching for home, but not finding much peace. There is a possibility of even moving abroad to find "home".

The home(Moon) could be in another country(12th), there could be a missing(12th) maternal figure(Moon). The mother(Moon) could be incapable of being there for them(12th) or there could be a dissolution(12th) of the actual physical dwelling place(Moon) or foundation.

Whatever the reason is, the feeling of being homeless and not belonging anywhere is highlighted. Especially if Chiron is in the 4th, aspects the Moon or is in Cancer too.

Try and piece it together for yourself and see if it makes sense and if there is an overlap of themes.

I mentioned the possibility of 7th/4th connection being that the partner feeling like home. And thus naturally wherever the partner goes(even to foreign places 7th/ 12th connection), one with this placement may choose to go too.

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posted September 18, 2016 05:03 PM            

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Yes, regarding someone else who has strong Uranus/Aquarius placements.

My husband has Uranus conjunct MC (and my Pluto, and our son's Saturn...hooray ), and I have Uranus conjunct IC. He has Mars and NN in Aquarius, and I have Mercury in Aquarius. His NN is conjunct my Dsc.

We have some Saturn ties that sort of keep things stable or at least committed, and other good Moon/Moon Venus/Venus trines, etc.

So no, it's never dull by any stretch, and I suppose that's what we both need, to some extent.

posted September 18, 2016 05:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Yes, regarding someone else who has strong Uranus/Aquarius placements.

My husband has Uranus conjunct MC (and my Pluto, and our son's Saturn...hooray ), and I have Uranus conjunct IC. He has Mars and NN in Aquarius, and I have Mercury in Aquarius. His NN is conjunct my Dsc.

We have some Saturn ties that sort of keep things stable or at least committed, and other good Moon/Moon Venus/Venus trines, etc.

So no, it's never dull by any stretch, and I suppose that's what we both need, to some extent.

Not divorced so far, although it's not been decades or anything.

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posted September 18, 2016 06:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I am weary of making any predictions. Just looking at possible interpretations. As you know yourself better than I do and can discern if the interpretation is on target or way off

Do u agree with Uranus in 4th suggesting an aloof attachment towards home and perhaps even suggesting a tendency for one to just "up and move"?

Do you agree that the ruler of the 7th house in the 4th connects your partneships to your sense of home?

So u are fine with a partnership(7th) that is prone to some instability and erratic disturbances (Aquarius) i.e even long distance is something you would be comfortable with(4th)

With Cancer on the cusp of the 12th,an affinity with a foreign or distant land is also not uncommon. But is only one interpretation of this placement and is not cast in stone.

The other interpretation is that one can feel(Cancer) very distant(12th) from the area of life that the Moon is in i.e emotions, feelings, connection and sentiment etc.

Or one could find there is some inability(12th) in establishing any firm and consistant emotional rapport(Cancer) with the house that the Moon is in.

The 4th house, Moon and Cancer have an affinity to each other. So connect the dots here and see if there is a thread that suggests detachment,aloofness or a certain kind of disengagement because of Uranus in 4th

So with the 12th house cusp in Cancer, Moon aspecting Uranus and Uranus in 4th. I already see a pattern of someone who is not likely to attach themselves emotionally to things.

If the 12th house cusp ruler(the Moon) is in the 6th, the person may feel that the work they do is hard to connect with emotionally. Or they feel emotionally taxed/ compromised by it because of conditions surrounding it i.e working(6th) at night(12th) or having to move around(12th) for work(6th) etc.

If the Moon is in 7th, the person may feel that the partner/close friend they have is hard to get close to or emotionally distant either because of physical distance , inability to depend on them, the partner moving around a lot or being emotionally impenetratable(12th).

The partner (7th)could be in another country(12th) the partner(7th) could be in a mental asylum(12th), the partner (7th) could be from another racial group(12th) or the partner(7th)could be incapacitated in some way(12th).

Whatever it might be, the suggestion is that the possibility of the full enjoyment or continueance of the relations between them and the partner is strained or requires conscious effort as emotional disruptions, interruptions and challenges are likely.

If the Moon is in the 4th house, the person may feel distant from their home, place of birth and country. There could be a feeling of searching for home, but not finding much peace. There is a possibility of even moving abroad to find "home".

The home(Moon) could be in another country(12th), there could be a missing(12th) maternal figure(Moon). The mother(Moon) could be incapable of being there for them(12th) or there could be a dissolution(12th) of the actual physical dwelling place(Moon) or foundation.

Whatever the reason is, the feeling of being homeless and not belonging anywhere is highlighted. Especially if Chiron is in the 4th, aspects the Moon or is in Cancer too.

Try and piece it together for yourself and see if it makes sense and if there is an overlap of themes.

I mentioned the possibility of 7th/4th connection being that the partner feeling like home. And thus naturally wherever the partner goes(even to foreign places 7th/ 12th connection), one with this placement may choose to go too.

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posted September 18, 2016 06:14 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
LOVED reading what all the fellow Aqua DCs wrote here haha! glad to see I am not alone

- marriage?
I don't really see the point, as the first thing I look for in a lover is friendship

- kids?
I am not sure about them..I get along well with them but I much rather adopt or raise a partner's kid (I have natal moon square venus and am empty 5th house though)

- love?
I make fun of all kinds of romantics gestures! I want lots of goofiness, craziness and laughter

- closeness?
I much rather have my own space for the majority of the day, and then let them take over my nights (or days, or evenings hehehe!)

- I also need my partner to be a social person with many friends and a smartie who is good with tools too

- am I faithful?
if I find them truly dedicated to me, I am. but if I sense that my needs aren't fully met, I don't hesitate to abruptly leave and shock the other person who was supposing everything was going perfectly!

** I also tend to get bored pretty fast, even in the hottest relationships..I have have asteroid valentine conjunct my DC and was proposed to by almost any guy I have dated...when I told them that the only thing I can promise them, is a 2-year max marriage, and if up to then, things were still interesting, we would extend the agreement, the only person who wasn't shocked was another Aqua DC who has venus conjunct uranus too...although we didn't get married thankfully as my secret wish came true and he was forced to move to another city

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posted September 18, 2016 06:21 PM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
Anybody here been divorced? Still thinking about that 'fixed sign on the Dsc' thing..

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posted September 18, 2016 07:19 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
What about someone who has Mercury conjunct Uranus?

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posted September 18, 2016 07:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
I'm not sure what you're asking...? I don't think I know anyone off the top of my head with that conjunction, but I'll look. What did you want to know about it?

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posted September 18, 2016 09:23 PM            

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I mean would a person with this aspect be considered Uranian?

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posted September 19, 2016 02:49 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
What about someone who has Mercury conjunct Uranus?

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this very ex bf who proposed and then had to move to another city has this aspect. he actually he has an exact conjunction between venus, mercury and uranus. I think one of the reasons we met was me having my male planets connected to mercury and uranus, as he has his venus connected to mercury and uranus (I have sun trine uranus, mars opposite uranus and mars square mercury).

posted September 19, 2016 09:49 AM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
this very ex bf who proposed and then had to move to another city has this aspect. he actually he has an exact conjunction between venus, mercury and uranus. I think one of the reasons we met was me having my male planets connected to mercury and uranus, as he has his venus connected to mercury and uranus (I have sun trine uranus, mars opposite uranus and mars square mercury).

he is a GENIUS. he has officially invented stuff. he reads a lot. he also studied under an educational system in our country which has specific schools with extreme curriculum for intelligent students (that is decided by an entrance exam). he also has bipolar disorder and has been on medication for a few years. I myself have mercury square mars, and square neptune and unrans and have ADHD.

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posted September 19, 2016 03:44 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
This is my chart I do have Moon in the 6th house. Does the 6th and the 12th house connect in some way?

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You have some few challenges with the love planets,

7th house cusp is in Uranus- An independent approach towards relationships/partnerships.

You need more leeway and space in relations/ partnership.And as I said, Aquarius Dsc people tend to date people that don't need them or can stand independently from them.

The more distant someone is, the more attracted you are. And this is further re-iterated by Uranus in 5th,Moon in Aquarius,Venus in Pisces squaring Uranus in Sagittarius.

Moon in the 6th suggests some issues with receiving affection, nurture and care. Its as if the emotional state is ill at ease with such things.

Venus in 8th has deep desires and passions that few mortals can fill.This placement often indicates some pain, loss and some internal healing needs to be addressed when it comes to showing/giving affection.Because often there is fear of abandonment and suspicion that becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

This them of suspicion and self-protection is "doubled up" by Sun opposite Pluto and Moon square Pluto. You are most certainly a defensive person and very guarded

Venus-Saturn are widely square each other and so there could be a feeling of "loneliness in love" or feelings of being isolated and not wanted by others(including a partner).

Saturn is in the 4th- You certainly can build very high walls of rationale, decorum and proprietary and can steer off revealing the softer side.

This is also emphasized by Cancer being in the 12th house- which suggests that the creamy, soft center is that part of yourself which you reserve for you and only you.

Jupiter conjunct Mercury in Aries is an independent thinker and prefers to go their own way. But the close opposition to the True node in Libra pulls you towards relationships and opening up to others.

The conjunction with the South node suggests that you are used to going at it alone. But if Chiron-Mars conjunct is anything to go by,it is certainly likely that you feel that as much as you assert yourself, it hurts because you feel ever more isolated and alone.

posted September 19, 2016 04:49 PM            

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You have some few challenges with the love planets,

7th house cusp is in Uranus- An independent approach towards relationships/partnerships.

You need more leeway and space in relations/ partnership.And as I said, Aquarius Dsc people tend to date people that don't need them or can stand independently from them.

The more distant someone is, the more attracted you are. And this is further re-iterated by Uranus in 5th,Moon in Aquarius,Venus in Pisces squaring Uranus in Sagittarius.

Moon in the 6th suggests some issues with receiving affection, nurture and care. Its as if the emotional state is ill at ease with such things.

Venus in 8th has deep desires and passions that few mortals can fill.This placement often indicates some pain, loss and some internal healing needs to be addressed when it comes to showing/giving affection.Because often there is fear of abandonment and suspicion that becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

This them of suspicion and self-protection is "doubled up" by Sun opposite Pluto and Moon square Pluto. You are most certainly a defensive person and very guarded

Venus-Saturn are widely square each other and so there could be a feeling of "loneliness in love" or feelings of being isolated and not wanted by others(including a partner).

Saturn is in the 4th- You certainly can build very high walls of rationale, decorum and proprietary and can steer off revealing the softer side.

This is also emphasized by Cancer being in the 12th house- which suggests that the creamy, soft center is that part of yourself which you reserve for you and only you.

Jupiter conjunct Mercury in Aries is an independent thinker and prefers to go their own way. But the close opposition to the True node in Libra pulls you towards relationships and opening up to others.

The conjunction with the South node suggests that you are used to going at it alone. But if Chiron-Mars conjunct is anything to go by,it is certainly likely that you feel that as much as you assert yourself, it hurts because you feel ever more isolated and alone.

Chiron opposing Saturn in the 4th is loneliness emphasized. And it is likely to play itself out in your public image(10th house has Chiron there).

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