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Topic: Ten Aspects in the Natal Chart That Make For A Strong Person
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ChildofVenus
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posted September 17, 2016 10:28 AM
  
Really? I wonder if it's the same with Leo rising. I've read that people who have a Leo Ascendant are usually strong willed.
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I know several Moons in Leo with depression.
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Ami Anne
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posted September 17, 2016 10:32 AM
OkSo Far--Pluto conj the Sun ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted September 17, 2016 10:33 AM
Jupiter conj the Sun may be strong due to positive vibes.Would you agree? ------------------
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Empty Spaces
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posted September 17, 2016 10:37 AM
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Does your Mars oppose your Cap sun? Mars/Saturn is a tough combination, gives staying power.
Hi faith  Yes 3 degrees opposition!
Thanks for the explanation.I dont find much information about it.
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ChildofVenus
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posted September 17, 2016 10:41 AM
What about Pluto quintile MC?
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This is a hard subject. I am strong in some ways and weak in others. This may be the case for others, too. However, I think there are aspects that make for strength.1.Cardinal Ascendant
This would be Aries, Cancer, Libra or Capricorn. The Cardinal Ascendant is one aspect for inherent strength and the ability to stand alone, which is part of strength. 2. Pluto Conjunct the Ascendant
This native is as strong as horseradish. Don’t step on his toe without a very good reason. 3. Pluto Conjunct the MC
This native may show his power in career. Think Putin and you have Pluto conjunct the MC. You could, also, think Michael Corleone. He was adorable and a warm fuzzy until he had to fight for his family. Then, the “Pluto stare” emerged and remained for the entire Godfather series. 4. Aries Mars
Aries Mars is very strong when he believes in a cause or a principle. 5. Scorpio Mars Scorpio Mars’ strength is in his unusual keenness regarding human nature. Don’t mess with them, if you don’t want to be UNDER the mess with their foot on your head. 6. Capricorn Mars This native will be strong in sticking to goals. He will have patience and maturity when it comes to deferring gratification. He can make long term plans and achieve, particularly when it comes to career 7 Cancer Mars
Cancer Mars is in the Fall. In this sense, it is a weak position. However, if you mess with those whom she loves, she will defend them in a way that will send you running for the hills,with her in fast pursuit. 8. Pluto Conjunct Mars This native can be as strong as tensile steel. He is not likely to be the ninety pound weakling on whom the bully throws sand. 9. Cardinal MC
Once again, we have the angle that faces toward society and career melded with the most leadership oriented quadriplicity. The quadriplicities are the Cardinal, Fixed and Mutable categories. I have articles on these, if you want more information. 10.Mars Conjunct the Ascendant or MC
This native would have a strong goal oriented nature. Donald Trump is one of the most famous. No one can argue with his success.
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headintheclouds91
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posted September 17, 2016 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Jupiter conj the Sun may be strong due to positive vibes.Would you agree?
Yes. The same goes for those with the square and the opposition too. They usually manage to bounce up from anything and can stay positive even in the most difficult times. But i have noticed that they do tend to have poor judgements sometimes.
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ChildofVenus
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posted September 17, 2016 10:46 AM
Is this the same as having Moon sextile Jupiter?
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Yes. The same goes for those with the square and the opposition too though. They usually manage to bounce up from anything and can stay positive even in the most difficult times. But i have noticed that they do tend to have poor judgements sometimes.
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ChildofVenus
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posted September 17, 2016 10:48 AM
I'm surprised that Moon/Mars wouldn't be one. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 17, 2016 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I'm surprised that Moon/Mars wouldn't be one.
I am asking you guys  Moon trine/sextile Mars--yes Good Call, C! I would not put in the squares or oppositions cuz the energy is a struggling energy vs a strong, direct energy imo ------------------
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headintheclouds91
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posted September 17, 2016 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Is this the same as having Moon sextile Jupiter?
moon-jupiter is very similar if not even more like this than sun-jupiter folks are. But the sun got to do with ego and identity while moon got more to do with your emotions. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted September 17, 2016 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I would not put in the squares or oppositions cuz the energy is a struggling energy vs a strong, direct energy imo
Weight lifting is a struggle. You need resistance to build strength. But it could go either way, just like any other aspect. IP: Logged |
headintheclouds91
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posted September 17, 2016 10:57 AM
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I am asking you guys Moon trine/sextile Mars--yes Good Call, C! I would not put in the squares or oppositions cuz the energy is a struggling energy vs a strong, direct energy imo
squares and oppositions are way more like the conjunction than those with the trines and sextiles. Like moon square mars people are much more similar to a person with moon conj mars than someone with moon trine mars. Seen this way too many times. And the traits that supposedly " only" the trines and sextile folks have i have seen way more in people with the squares, conj and opposition aspects. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted September 17, 2016 11:03 AM
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Hi faith Yes 3 degrees opposition!
Thanks for the explanation.I dont find much information about it.
Hi there  That's a nice opposition to have:
Cancer Mars' weakness could be getting carried away with one's feelings, but the Cap sun will keep that in check. Cap weakness is coldness, but Cancer Mars warms it up. IP: Logged |
headintheclouds91
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posted September 17, 2016 11:06 AM
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Weight lifting is a struggle. You need resistance to build strength.
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FatedCinderella
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posted September 17, 2016 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Really? I wonder if it's the same with Leo rising. I've read that people who have a Leo Ascendant are usually strong willed.
Moon/ASC in leo is awesome for self-steem but I think is easy to let them down.I mean they are attention seekers so if they dont get what they want they feel bad. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted September 17, 2016 11:14 AM
I have Moon trine Mars that's why I asked. I was just curious if people who have this aspect usually have a strong will.
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am asking you guys Moon trine/sextile Mars--yes Good Call, C! I would not put in the squares or oppositions cuz the energy is a struggling energy vs a strong, direct energy imo
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Ami Anne
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posted September 17, 2016 11:19 AM
I have Moon trine Mars that's why I asked. I was just curious if people who have this aspect usually have a strong will. YES, they do  ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted September 17, 2016 11:20 AM
The quintile is more of a talent aspect. I wish I knew more about it, but it is kind of natural gifts.------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted September 17, 2016 11:21 AM
Maybe Mars trine Saturn--discipline with goals, stick to a goal until one sees it throughSaturn trine Moon--emotional stability these are not good aspects when in conjunction, though, imo I think I have about 8 new ones, so far ------------------
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Electro DGX
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posted September 17, 2016 11:22 AM
I think squares and oppositions can be very strong energy, but it would be badly controlled. The struggle of being able to best utilize it is where the weakness lies, and it's where one must struggle to best utilize it to its fullest potential. I liked Faith's example with weight lifting. ------------------
Scorpio Ascendant
Aquarius Sun in 4th
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Ami Anne
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posted September 17, 2016 11:29 AM
So FarPluto conj Sun Mars trine Moon Mars trine Saturn Saturn trine Moon Jupiter conjunct the Sun Probably Pluto trines, too! Pluto trine the Sun Pluto trine the Moon We can add as many as we want lol Probably Pluto trine the NN, which I have, which gives help/thrust/power to reaching goals. Mars trine the NN, too ------------------
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ChildofVenus
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posted September 17, 2016 11:41 AM
I have North Node sextile Mars would that be the same as Mars trine NN?
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So FarPluto conj Sun Mars trine Moon Mars trine Saturn Saturn trine Moon Jupiter conjunct the Sun Probably Pluto trines, too! Pluto trine the Sun Pluto trine the Moon We can add as many as we want lol Probably Pluto trine the NN, which I have, which gives help/thrust/power to reaching goals. Mars trine the NN, too
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Faith
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posted September 17, 2016 11:42 AM
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I think squares and oppositions can be very strong energy, but it would be badly controlled. The struggle of being able to best utilize it is where the weakness lies, and it's where one must struggle to best utilize it to its fullest potential. I liked Faith's example with weight lifting.
Hey there You're calling me badly controlled?  No but in all seriousness most astrologers acknowledge the inherent potential of squares. Case in point: http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Bruce_Lee
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Ami Anne
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posted September 17, 2016 11:47 AM
The "Orange" aspectMercury trine Pluto They are so smart they don't have to be strong ------------------
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posted September 17, 2016 11:48 AM
Yes, Child of VenusThe sextile is kind of a a buried trine The trine is a free unearned gift The sextile takes some work to be a gift--like losing ten pounds to fit into the bikini The trine fits in the first day ------------------
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