posted October 15, 2016 09:47 AM            

That's a fair question teasel, very fair and you deserve an answer.

After the election of the Marxist Messiah in 2008 there was a hue and cry to stop his unlawful overreaching of Executive Power. Republican candidates ran on stopping the Obama agenda. Voters gave republicans the US House of Representatives, in 2010...to stop Obama.

Nothing happened. The excuse given was that Republicans didn't have control of the US Senate and Harry Reid refused to take up..and bring bills to a vote which would stop Obama's overreach. The real facts are that Republicans didn't try and enabled Obama at every turn.

So, republicans wheezed and whined that if only voters would give them control of the US Senate..too, then republicans would stop Obama's unlawful Executive Branch overreaches and implement economic policies which would restore a good economy....and kill Illegal Immigration to the US AND repeal and replace ObamaCare.

In the election of 2014, voters gave Republicans control of the US Senate..and House of Representatives too. So now, republicans controlled the entire legislative branch of government. Able to write every law, repeal any law. Write every budget for every agency of government and reign in Obama's Executive Branch excesses. AND...

Nothing happened..again.

By 2011, it was perfectly clear to many republicans that republicans in congress didn't intend to upset Obama's applecart. In other words, they lied to their constituents to get themselves elected.

2012 came and went and still nothing changed.
2013 came and went and still nothing changed.
2014 elections came and republicans gained control of the US Senate and still, in 2015 and so far in 2016, nothing changed. Except the rhetoric.

Give Republicans the White House to go along with the House and Senate and we'll do all those wonderful things we promised all the way back to 2010.

So, Republicans ran a fleet of Establishment, Globalist, Internationalist candidates and Donald Trump kicked all their sorry butts.

By 2013, it was clear to almost all republicans that Republican members of Congress were enabling the Globalist, Internationalist agenda of Obama and they were merely different sides of the same coin. The Uni-Party Establishment.

For the rest of republicans, conservative democrats and Independents, Trump ripped the mask off the Uni-Party Establishment starting in 2015 when he announced for President and continuing to today.

I don't care if you're a democrat, a republican, an independent or totally unaffiliated, your elected federal officials..House, Senate and President are not representing YOU, not working for YOU. They work for the Uni-Party Establishment; Wall Street, Big money donors, Lobbyists and Special Interests...The Globalists...AND, I'm fed up with them all and have been since 2011.

posted October 15, 2016 01:00 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
I keep seeing "Astrologers Predict the Erection"

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posted October 15, 2016 01:18 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
The most important wiki leaks are not about Hillary Clinton: http://newrepublic.com/article/137798/important-wikileaks-revelation-isnt-hillary-cli nton

It looks like the bankers picked Obama's key staff for him. Who's to say they're not doing the same for either Hillary or Trump? Is there any reason to think they are not?

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This is great info, thanks for sharing. And the big news media is focused on other things it seems.

I think a lot of trump supporters are keeping quiet until election day. There's only 1 trump sign in my neighborhood, mainly because too many people fear having their house vandalized for showing they support him.

The saddest part about this whole election is the media continues to distract us from what is really going on in politics. It's dirty. It's corrupt. And we are at a standstill when it comes to making progress in this century, because we, the people, are not being represented for what is in our best interests. And we continue to allow it to happen by allowing the media to brainwash us so we regurgitate insignificant topics to "strengthen" our stance...whichever candidate it may be. This is one small example in the big picture.

posted October 15, 2016 06:20 PM            

So!, I guess things are Screwed, no matter WHAT? LOL

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Hi, and thanks for the thread, Jwhop
You might not like me because you know my political leanings?
But the thing that we DO have in common, is a PROFOUND Love for Our Country and Nation... {{ }}
We all live under the same Political Roof and House called "America"...
I care deeply about what you say, and I Listen to ALL the arguments.

The Cool thing about Voting is that each soul gets a say.... then it's tallied up. That's the magic of voting. It comes down to the individual, ultimately.

Like you Hypatia... I evaluate 'each' candidate separately, even though I am registered with a political party. I take it seriously, and thoughtfully.

Aries23Degrees?!! omg!!-- "23-degrees" and tUranus conjunct Full Moon Aries tonight? {Sending you Best Vibes.}

DualGemV2... We have close placements.
(Sun, Mercury, Venus and Mars.)
I have SagAsc (like USA, and LL's Chart); however, intercepted houses reads me more like a Cappy Rising often-times. The things that happen in our country REALLY affect my person, too.

DGv2.."I'm not even the US but keeping an eye abroad, figuring out how international business will change and be ruined/improved by either candidate."
...Those were some of my first thoughts, too.

posted October 15, 2016 08:48 PM            

Trump's natal chart and progressions show things typically very strong for a candidate. The problem is he has zero experience running campaigns or in elected office. Celebrity alone won't get him elected. He's losing for a reason.

The 2:18 AM chart for Hillary is bogus. I knew about that time many months ago and put it to the test. There is no version of an authentic chart for her anywhere near that time. I believe she was born in the PM as she originally claimed many years ago, and as her father said in the January 17, 1993 Chicago Sun Times interview with Lynn Sweet. My friend Shaun Barry arrived at 14 Aries for her Asc, which I agree with. That chart shows strong progressions as well, and is nearly as strong natally.

posted October 15, 2016 09:04 PM            

At 2:18AM her DSC is conj moon (4) and puts her sun in taurus in both I and II. (placidus + equal houses) and her pisces moon in libra in both.

At 8:00PM asc is conj uranus (4) sun is in LEO/5th in I and II. Moon at nonagesimal but 1 degree into the 9th in equal and 10th in P.

So to get the right time you would ask is she REALLY watery from the first example (which also has her moon in 4th in Placidus and around the cusp of Equal so I'm not sure of 4th or 5th) Might have a lot of emphasis on the feet and expression through her feet

Or is she quite stable and conventional (2nd time). Might sense extra effort into jaw movements

Or is she pretty firey. Might seem to be located her sense of self in her upper back area, lot of emphasis in there

Now for myself to check which of those 3 ^^ descriptions fits. She doesn't have much emphasis on her upper back or her feet, but has tons on her jaw. Also is known for making funny faces. Also quite a bit of emphasis on her eyes, which is where her sun would have progressed.

posted October 15, 2016 09:42 PM            

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Originally posted by llewsacm:
This is great info, thanks for sharing. And the big news media is focused on other things it seems.

I think a lot of trump supporters are keeping quiet until election day. There's only 1 trump sign in my neighborhood, mainly because too many people fear having their house vandalized for showing they support him.

The saddest part about this whole election is the media continues to distract us from what is really going on in politics. It's dirty. It's corrupt. And we are at a standstill when it comes to making progress in this century, because we, the people, are not being represented for what is in our best interests. And we continue to allow it to happen by allowing the media to brainwash us so we regurgitate insignificant topics to "strengthen" our stance...whichever candidate it may be. This is one small example in the big picture.

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posted October 15, 2016 11:05 PM            

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"But does anyone at LL recognize the names given of the astrologers who went on the record with this?"

I don't recognize any of these astrologers. Neither do I understand one of the statements in the article.

“If you look at Pence and Trump, they’re both Geminis, born either side of Mars.

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Both candidates with SUN in Gemini ... USA MARS Gemini

posted October 15, 2016 11:42 PM            

it's just simpler to tally up the signs for what i was doing, because since the 12 rules the feet and is watery and so is pisces, its easier to say 2 points for pisces, i was tallying them up cause i think there are 5 main strong zodiacs so i was giving her a point for each one her sun was in, sun being the strongest show of persons exhibiting body connections

posted October 16, 2016 12:30 AM            

An Aquarius with Sun in Leo in 3 sets of the major zodiacs

And then a Scorpio with Sun in Leo in 3 sets

They both have emphasis on the same upper back area

posted October 16, 2016 12:39 AM            

I'm just picking the first ones that I find with their sun in all 3 sets other than the well-known signs

A Gemini with Sun in Cancer in 3 sets You can see a much deeper expression and is different than the others

Sun in Cancer in 4 sets

Now for the final clues on Hillary. I retract my idea that she isn't Taurus. Well who knows but here are the pictures.

posted October 16, 2016 10:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Vradec:
Even though Hillary is ahead in the polls, don't rule out Trump for president. Here in Britain, the polls favoured us staying in the EU strongly; no one thought a majority would really vote to leave - yet it happened, much to everyone's shock. The same thing could happen with Trump, scarily.

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posted October 16, 2016 11:03 AM            

What would "scare" you about a Trump presidency Vradec?

posted October 16, 2016 02:32 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
The same thing could happen with Trump, [b]scarily.

What would "scare" you about a Trump presidency Vradec?

[B]

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