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Ami Anne
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posted November 24, 2016 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good call, H!!

Child quincunx NN--exact!!!

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posted November 24, 2016 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I know a guy who is an orphan, both of his parents abandoned him and as a result he ended up in a foster home were he was raped at the age of 8. Its a miracle he is alive, he has a bullet in his brain. He has been through everything under the sun and I am not exaggerating, it's bad, he is incredibly resilient.

He has moon in Virgo square Neptune, mars and mercury and I suspect his moon is in the 12th house. His sun squares his pluto.

This is his chart, tob unknown:


Oh my. He makes my life look like a cakewalk. Because my life has't exactly been a cakewalk.

I suspect it's his Sun square Pluto. Intense experiences. Sometimes dark. Wish him well!

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posted November 24, 2016 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am so used to all the asteroids that I cannot get a real feel for him without them.

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posted November 24, 2016 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He has a Yod with Chiron at the apex

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posted November 24, 2016 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
He has a Yod with Chiron at the apex


Yes and pluto which is one of the legs of the yod squares Nessus which forms it's own yod with Chiron and Neptune at the apex so there are two yods interlocked together involving Chiron.

Pluto square Sun definitely plays a role but I know other people with that square that don't have the hx of trauma with the extreme dark themes he does, he has pluto square Nessus too after all in addition to pluto square sun. I think though yes that a native with sun square pluto will attract intense experiences that can be dark and traumatic but I think if he didn't have child square Saturn conjunct Jupiter, pluto square Nessus or sun inconjunct Dejanira and those two yods involving Chiron his life would have been drastically different.

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posted November 24, 2016 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Wow How sad, H

Can I pick your brain while you are there

Tell me about an exact Sun/Saturn square in a girl's chart and tell me about her father.

Thanks xxx



Excellent question. I was able to say a lot about Moon square Neptune bc I have that aspect and have been thinking a lot about it trying to understand it at a deeper level and the different ways it can manifest itself.

I want to try to respond to your question and love that you are getting me to think of other aspects but strangely I am having a very hard time finding that aspect in my data but I did find one girl who has it and to my surprise it's my best friend from back in high school. She has sun square Saturn by 2d but she also has sun trine Jupiter by 6d and Uranus but widely by 10d, she has sun square pluto by 1d too and inconjunct Neptune by 2d. She also has moon in Scorpio with Nessus conjunct mercury exact.

She told me once that as a child she was molested by a friend of the family and towards the end of our friendship she was going through a crises bc she found out that a guy she was dating molested her little sister (coincidentally he was a freemason). Mercury conjunct Nessus manifested twice with her it seems.

She was always dating someone or talking to someone, never truly single. She needed male attention at all times. Mind you her parents were both cool and she had a good relationship with her dad, she liked thinking she was daddy's girl, she was the middle of 3 girls.

My guess is that a female with sun square Saturn needs and craves a lot of male attention while simultaneously is also very distrustful and paranoid about men. In her case this was the case bc of both sun squaring her saturn and pluto tightly.

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posted November 25, 2016 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This person is daddy's girl, too, he may push her a lot to be super good in everything. Do you see that with Sun sq Saturn, H, and I LOVE that we can have this dialogue!

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posted November 26, 2016 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I know a guy who is an orphan, both of his parents abandoned him and as a result he ended up in a foster home were he was raped at the age of 8. Its a miracle he is alive, he has a bullet in his brain. He has been through everything under the sun and I am not exaggerating, it's bad, he is incredibly resilient.

He has moon in Virgo square Neptune, mars and mercury and I suspect his moon is in the 12th house. His sun squares his pluto.

This is his chart, tob unknown:


That's interesting. I had similar difficulties in childhood, although not as extreme as this native, and we share some placements:

Libra ASC conjunct Saturn, Cancer NN-Nessus (his is probably too wide to be truly conjunct, but close. Mine is conj. NN), Virgo Moon sq. Neptune, Pluto in 1st (mine is conj. ASC), air Mercuries and Mars (mine are Aquarius and Libra, respectively).

Thought I'd share this incase it shed any light.

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posted November 26, 2016 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon square Pluto...

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posted November 26, 2016 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Moon square Pluto...


Yea!

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