posted November 23, 2016 10:10 AM            

2. Moon Conjunct Nemesis(128)
Nemesis conjunct the Moon reveals a mother who is a hidden enemy. Nemesis conjunct the Moon may wreak havoc on the soul of a child, the results of which may last a lifetime.

3. Uranus Conjunct the Moon
Uranus conjunct the Moon natives will not be your “run of the mill, vanilla flavored ice cream” people She would more likely be the villain in a Disney movie, rather than the “goodness and light” main character. By villain, I do not mean evil. I mean outrageously unique i.e the wild and crazy Ursula in”The Little Mermaid”. The mother may have been unsafe or unstable. The child may carry a fragility in her emotions and she may carry it for life, through no fault of her own.

4 Blewitt(22927) Conjunct the Moon
Blewitt is as it sounds—blowing it/failing. I see this asteroid play out in an amazing way. Why do the asteroids play out so accurately, you may ask? The answer is that God has numbered every hair on your head. He knows every detail about you. The chart is that blueprint. That is my opinion after studying the Bible for twenty years and Astrology for seven. Blewitt Conjunct the Moon seems to indicate a mother who failed the native.

5. Moon Conjunct Pluto
This aspect is a very close mother/child relationship. It may be too close. The child may feel( and be) smothered. Hence, I call it the “smother mother” aspect.

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posted November 23, 2016 11:54 AM            

Interesting this one, I've read that Cancer moons are supposed to be having a very close relationship with their mothers. In my case it felt more like a bit asphyxiating, but that again, might be the Pluto thing.

When I was still living with my parents I felt that I don't have privacy, somehow I cannot detach myself from her, that there was this deep connection, but not a healthy one.
I could never speak with her about emotions, and she has a Cancer Moon also, haha. Never been able to express love.

I've always felt her anxiety and fears, energetically.

posted November 23, 2016 12:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Cinnamon sky:
I've always felt her anxiety and fears, energetically.

Now it's better, since I worked a lot on myself and moved 700 kilometers away, haha. I could say that working on myself is reflected in her own self development, and now I am starting to feel an actual real loving closeness between us, though still not easy.

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I think the distance may have helped in seeing things in perspective .

When you said "I've always felt her anxiety and fears, energetically." that was so chillingly accurate of my experiences with my own Mom. I sat right up

Cancer Moon here and Mom has Mars in Cancer conjunct it.

Ami,

I always thought that Cancer/Taurus energy and Moon/Venus or harsh aspects to them (Ceres sign position too) is connected to the "nurture" principle(not necessarily strictly the mother)

But of-course, the mother/maternal figure is the key role for many of us in providing that initial bond of human connection that we feel when entering this unfamiliar world.

She is everything; friend, listener, entertainer,teacher,nurturer,playmate etc. Well at-least for the initial stages of growth.

Cancer/Taurus energies are (in my opinion) very sensitized to this energy of nurturer /nurtured. And many can complain that they didn't feel "loved" enough or "cared for enough" etc. Especially when Saturn,Chiron is in Cancer/Taurus or Pluto/Saturn/Chiron aspect Moon/Venus.

I for instance have noticed Moon/Saturn and Moon/Uranus(Cap and Aquarius)tend to avoid "soppy soppy" things like touching or hugs.

Venus/Saturn don't get easily stimulated/ aroused(Cap) and Venus/Uranus (Aquarius) often gets aroused in unusual places

Also,people with Venus/Moon harsh aspects don't know how to separate being nurtured from eroticism. Sometimes even combining the two.

With the in-conjunct especially, one can do their absolute best to separate the two i.e "Now that I am a husband and father to the kids. I can't perform oral sex and do nasty things to you." etc.

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posted November 23, 2016 06:42 PM            

Interesting.
I have Moon in Cancer and I had the best relationshiop with my mother. Although, I also have opposite Neptune and Uranus. I don't know if my 4th house in Leo has something to do with this too; my mom had a stellium in Leo.

posted November 23, 2016 06:53 PM            

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Originally posted by MilaBirkin:
Ami. I don't know if you replied my reply, lol, and I don't remember in which topic I wrote you. Well, this is not important. Hope you are ok.

Interesting.
I have Moon in Cancer and I had the best relationshiop with my mother. Although, I also have opposite Neptune and Uranus. I don't know if my 4th house in Leo has something to do with this too; my mom had a stellium in Leo.

I know people with Moon in Leo and all they have a bad relationship with their mother.

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I didn't see it, Mila. This may be a discussion that we should have privately, as you have just gone through a lot of grief due to your mom's death. I don't feel comfortable commenting on it now, but I am available by e mail

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posted November 23, 2016 09:33 PM            

I think moon in Pisces square Neptune can also feel smothered by the mother like the mother might treat that child like it's an extension of herself instead of a separate individual and be overprotective making the child feel they can't breath and guilty saying no to the mother and going against her wishes. The child struggles to form an identity bc of the mother's influence which is pushing to mold child to be just like her and keep her close.

Perhaps moon conjunct pluto can indicate an intense pushy controlling driven mother.

posted November 24, 2016 09:19 AM            

I know three people who all have Pisces moon, absolutely hate their mothers. They were especially neglected and/or abused emotionally growing up, so in turn they all grew up treating their mothers like garbage.

Moon in 12h I've also seen have problems getting along with mothers, maybe women in general

posted November 24, 2016 09:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Southern Sun:
This may be just coincidental, but what elements about having Pisces moon/moon in 12h might cause a person to have bad relationship with mother?

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Something profound and interesting was I compared exact jupiter sun conjunctions to jupiter moon conjunctions (this allows you to destinct the sun energy from what the moon energy is) ( lost the pic) and it seems as if it's actually sensed that the moon is the lesser of "the two big ones", like its sensed that it is the smaller one.

i think metaphysically everything is effected and thus we are concious of the "smaller" force in us, and it reflects and harmonizes to the outer reality.

So that is why the moon is the mother. It was profound looking at the pics, like the moon is definitely sensed as "1 of 2 things" but being the more smaller/passive force.

Anyway pisces is all about pain and emotions. So there you go

** I have a progressed sun in 12th and definitely have issues with the father. wasn't sure if it was just coincedence but seemed eerily accurate how many others did as well, and it wasn't that way in the first and i might have felt it progress to 11th one time and the bad feelings disappeared

if pisces is always trying to escape, or get a release (escape feelings) then you could assume that it would synchronize to the mom; trying to escape the feelings of the mother, either by hating, throwing stuff at them, etc.

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posted November 24, 2016 03:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
All great points!

My mother had Moon square Neptune, and her mother just 'disappeared'. One negative aspect of Neptune, of course.

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In my case she never disappeared and I was always the one talking about leaving and did end up moving far away.

posted November 24, 2016 03:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
All great points!

My mother had Moon square Neptune, and her mother just 'disappeared'. One negative aspect of Neptune, of course.

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WOW SA

What happened, if you care to say?

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posted November 24, 2016 03:55 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Add: if it was up to my mom I would still be living under her roof, she loves having me close, the closer the better lol.

Moon square Neptune is perhaps about poor boundaries, either too porous or too strict. An extreme version of strict would be disappearing and not been there at all.

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Wow How sad, H

Can I pick your brain while you are there

Tell me about an exact Sun/Saturn square in a girl's chart and tell me about her father.

Thanks xxx

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posted November 24, 2016 04:13 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
In my case she never disappeared and I was always the one talking about leaving and did end up moving far away.

I guess that aspect makes it so either the son/daughter or mother feel overwhelmed by the relationship so one or the other in a sense desires to escape it or distance themselves from it even if there is love for each other there like in my case. Is like each party maybe sees the other as too much to deal with so the desire to escape is there to some extent. It could also just mean a very religious mother.

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posted November 24, 2016 04:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

WOW SA

What happened, if you care to say?

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posted November 24, 2016 07:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
My mother was an Orphan! I won't go deeper than this explanation.

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I know a guy who is an orphan, both of his parents abandoned him and as a result he ended up in a foster home were he was raped at the age of 8. Its a miracle he is alive, he has a bullet in his brain. He has been through everything under the sun and I am not exaggerating, it's bad, he is incredibly resilient.

He has moon in Virgo square Neptune, mars and mercury and I suspect his moon is in the 12th house. His sun squares his pluto.

This is his chart, tob unknown:

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posted November 24, 2016 07:36 PM            

Could not see abuse clearly as people who can't who are abused, soooo sad

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posted November 24, 2016 07:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Nessus quincunx Neptune--1 degree

Could not see abuse clearly as people who can't who are abused, soooo sad

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Nessus sextile Chiron forming a yod with Neptune.

Child square Saturn conjunct Jupiter.