posted December 04, 2016 04:05 PM              

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Originally posted by violet7887:

This is exactly what I'm saying to you. You were born with South Node conjunct your Sun. The Sun is a vital part of you. You feel frustration with your Sun because of this conjunction.

Maybe there is a lesson you are meant to learn with this planet before you can move forward.

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Yeah but I think the only way to be the best possible version of your South Node is to focus on your North Node. That is where the balance comes from. The lesson is the North Node and the frustration with the South Node only ends when we focus on it.

The mistake a lot of people make with the SN is feeling like you somehow need to somehow focus on it to be a better person or be happier. I have done the same thing. Feeling like I needed to somehow put more energy into relationships and then everything will work out. Nope. It is just a fruitless cycle. The Universe constantly sends us signs to say that we are too good at the SN for our own good. It holds us back. So what we really have to learn is that our path is about the NN.

I feel like we have a different definituon of "lessons" in this sense. The disappointment or frustration with the SN is the catalyst toward the NN for sure. But it is not what we are here to learn and it's not "missing" within us. And it is actually when we fulfill our NN that we realize just how good we actually already are at the SN. So we don't have to stress over it anymore and it takes a backseat in importance while we spend time figuring out the NN which is what we actually have been missing or been out of touch with, at some point in life or to some degree.

posted December 04, 2016 09:49 PM            

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
Yeah but I think the only way to be the best possible version of your South Node is to focus on your North Node. That is where the balance comes from. The lesson is the North Node and the frustration with the South Node only ends when we focus on it.

The mistake a lot of people make with the SN is feeling like you somehow need to somehow focus on it to be a better person or be happier. I have done the same thing. Feeling like I needed to somehow put more energy into relationships and then everything will work out. Nope. It is just a fruitless cycle. The Universe constantly sends us signs to say that we are too good at the SN for our own good. It holds us back. So what we really have to learn is that our path is about the NN.

I feel like we have a different definituon of "lessons" in this sense. The disappointment or frustration with the SN is the catalyst toward the NN for sure. But it is not what we are here to learn and it's not "missing" within us. And it is actually when we fulfill our NN that we realize just how good we actually already are at the SN. So we don't have to stress over it anymore and it takes a backseat in importance while we spend time figuring out the NN which is what we actually have been missing or been out of touch with, at some point in life or to some degree.

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So you are 100% sure if you ignore your South Node and cut it out everything will be dandey? How can you be so sure? This is where your confusion lies. You want to move forward blindly. The Nodes are a complicated axis. It takes time to learn that it is not just one concrete way. There is learning to do on both Ends. You may have many more experiences in your life to know better.

This whole concept of the South Node is outdone and the North Node is the only way to go is not right. Ask a vedic astrologer about Rahu Ketu,( that’s where is comes from) and you will see there is learning to be done on both ends. I’ve seen this through practice and experience. It is a karmic axis, and you cannot change your karma. What you can do is try and understand it. And for most people this only comes through time and experiences.

Don’t blind yourself into thinking it’s just one way.

Also here is video that lightly explains this in vedic terms for you. https://youtu.be/Lvcszu_EYMM

posted December 04, 2016 10:04 PM              

So yeah I am very sure of that view and it definitely has helped me grow. So I guess we can agree to disagree.

Also I'm not into Vedic. I find it kind of archaic and it is often overly fatalistic.

posted December 04, 2016 10:08 PM            

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:

This is why your friends probably don't seem like that planet because they've learned, throughout life experience, to not really care about what that planet wants because they probably won't get it if they do. A lot of people would probably be surprised to learn how bossy I can actually be. All throughout my 20's, I have increasingly learned to let go of all of that. Things just have a way of screwing up when I try to be really dominant.

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posted December 07, 2016 06:48 PM            

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Originally posted by moongaze:
... I feel like my South Node and its aspects are ones that I should try letting go in order to become more like my NN...

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Not possible. Every planet in aspect to one Node is in aspect to the other. How do you let go of a sextile to S.Node to embrace a trine to the N.Node by that same planet?

To have newer experiences is to add to who you are overall. There is no loss of one needed to make this gain.

These Luminary Nodes are the spots where the paths of the lights connect. They represent places of harmony between the Lunar and Solar principles within you for best expression and integration. Thus, they create two points of harmony which do not represent the separate ends of a pole or other linear measure, but two balancing points on a spectrum.

In other words, they represent transitory points in a circular cycle of development.

You always start life experiencing or preferring what your S.Node symbolizes, like the back foot you use to push off, because it is your strongest. This is the descending node, relates to the Lunar principle, which is waning in emphasis in your soul's development. It is familiar and has the greater development. Maybe for some there is the feeling of the need to 'let go' of the past, but you always carry with you what you've developed as your strength and skill set. Planets here represent strengths that are well enough developed

The North Node symbolizes what is ascending in your life as the direction of your soul's development. It relates to the Solar principle of greater energy, purpose, outward expression. This can only be accomplished through use of the 'back foot' S.Node to propel us towards this balancing place. You cannot step or reach forward without a firm push from a back foot set solidly on the ground.

Think scales. Both ends (qualities, experiences in life) need to find balance.

posted December 13, 2016 12:03 AM            

My natal South Node is in Virgo, no planets with it. It is in the 12th house, which means themes of service and health care come to mind with the combination of Virgo & 12th house. The earlier stages of my focus on these were diet, fitness, more literal aims at self-improvement, fixing problems.

Then came pivotal experiences at age 26 & 28. I experienced hypnosis.

The first time was with the help of a friend who was self-taught in hypnosis, but very good. I'll admit it was a bit of a fishing expedition, but it felt right and produced some good results. I learned some things I won't go into here that came from prior lifetimes and helped explain some relationships and some of my bigger life picture.

The second time was with someone else's help and was with the intention of getting an herbal (gallbladder) remedy from my own subconscious. What I discovered was first why I'm prone to great discomfort in the water (past life drowning death), secondly that I'd been an herbalist in a past lifetime in China and that was the basis for my focus in this lifetime. Then I quickly described an easy remedy for my gallbladder. It worked perfectly.

This brings together both the S.Node/Virgo/12th with the N.Node/Pisces/6th. While I originally saw natural medicine as a 'fixit' for the body, I came to understand medicine in the far larger sense of medicine, more like the way Native folks describe it. Many things are medicine and can induce healing even if they don't 'fix' anything. They may open up a larger portion of ourselves and our power.

Later (2004) I had to learn energy healing. I went from aiming practical knowledge at fixing the body [Virgo] to opening up to emotional help from someone who was not even in the same room (or town) as me [Pisces].

I had to learn that healing was not to fix or remedy something, but to open up to the Source of Healing power and energy.

This is how my karma was completed and how I had the experience of Love overcoming the dualities inherent in my own past/future scenarios.

I hope this gives a good literal illustration of the balance I was talking about that can bring integration.

Peace & Healing.