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Topic: Mars Pluto and anger/energy releasing
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Cinnamon sky Knowflake Posts: 112 From: Registered: Aug 2016
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posted December 11, 2016 06:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul: I dislike routine things and I invent my own discipline hehe, but the senseis certainly don't appreciate that
I know what you mean, I have Mars/Uranus too. I guess this is why I wasn't rushing into this in the first place. I usually start something and then just naturally get strayed away from it and start something else. Lately with extra Uranus influence from transits I even stopped going to group yoga class, I rather do it at home the way it feels right to me
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Cinnamon sky Knowflake Posts: 112 From: Registered: Aug 2016
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posted December 11, 2016 06:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: Have you ever burned them ? I haven't tried this(automatic writing I mean) but I feel like I'd enjoy watching them burn, but yeah tearing them would also feel good I guess and it certainly is more martian than well, simply watching them burn .
Nah, I burn other stuff, but for martian energy release I don't use that method. And I'm tearing the paper mostly because I don't want anyone to read the crazy stuff I wrote there Yeah I guess burning would be more of a plutonian thing. IP: Logged |
Cinnamon sky Knowflake Posts: 112 From: Registered: Aug 2016
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posted December 11, 2016 06:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by raindancer88:
I believe that if this aspect native can physically exhaust itself the mind NATURALLY mellows out. I find I'm at my worst when I sleep in on a weekend & don't work out- I'm mentally AMPED and armed.
I've found that I need to exhaust myself physically, and then the emotional stuff comes to the surface, or the source of the anger which wasn't clear up until then, so that i can deal with it. But maybe this works with meditation as well. Clearing the mind. Tho with Mars/Pluto sometimes meditation is not enough. IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 618 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 11, 2016 08:23 PM
wow, you discribed it perfectly! one of THE issues in my life I have bitten my nails all my life they told me i should make martial arts wow that was a nice reading!
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TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 618 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 11, 2016 08:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: Mars/Pluto at its core is sexual energy in my opinion. I have the square as well. And few years ago, when I turned celibate for few months I basically turned into an angry mofo 24/7. When one represses sexual energy, it turns into anger.
omg dude I`m fked I have done this for years IP: Logged |
Cinnamon sky Knowflake Posts: 112 From: Registered: Aug 2016
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posted December 11, 2016 08:29 PM
@TensionEmpire, do you have Mars/Pluto aspect as well? What sign is your Mars in?IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 618 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 11, 2016 08:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Maintaining regularity is a must for everything I've suggested above.
dude I am realy screwed, I have Uranus opp. sun exact o.O IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 618 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 11, 2016 08:38 PM
my mars is in Leo squaring my pluto in scorp like Bruce lee, but inverted and his is 4 or 5 degrees tighterIP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 618 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 11, 2016 08:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: Someone close once suggested me to have a cup of tea with my demons, I couldn't understand what the person meant at the time, but now I can see that what the person said was right.
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Cinnamon sky Knowflake Posts: 112 From: Registered: Aug 2016
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posted December 11, 2016 08:53 PM
I think with this aspect one might have also the ability to transmute sexual energy, to work with it in a healing way. I'm really fascinated my this subject, though again, it needs some discipline. And that's the challenge. IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 618 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 11, 2016 09:00 PM
oh that is a nice thought also! hahaha I was seeing naruto rage moments in youtube yesterday and I was like omg omg yeah, yeah man omg thats the spirit IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 618 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 11, 2016 09:05 PM
I love this aspect, maybe because venus cnj. my mars or because mars is in leobut it is funny how someone could love pain IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 618 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 11, 2016 10:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: "only little boys cry, real men don't cry booohoo".
real men cry, this phrase is ironic, because we realy can not cry, because if we do, we can do it till we die. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 5669 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted December 11, 2016 11:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by TensionEmpire: oh that is a nice thought also! hahaha I was seeing naruto rage moments in youtube yesterday and I was like omg omg yeah, yeah man omg thats the spirit
Hahah @naruto, yes I think its like the nine tail aspect . I haven't watched naruto in a long, long time like 5-6 years lol, I think there is this one scene where he talks with the nine tail, I think it fits the theme of Mars/Pluto, the part where he struggles against it and then the part where he owns the power of the nine tail. He was not one of my favorite characters though, Itachi was my favorite, Sasuke, Gaara and Orochimaru were also very interesting. And who could forget Jiraiya Sama, lol, I also loved Tsunade for the reason you can probably guess. IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 618 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 12, 2016 06:04 AM
I actually never saw the show naruto, so I don`t knwo the names, oshoshimaru is the bad guy right? but total identificationIP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 5669 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted December 12, 2016 08:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by Cinnamon sky: I've found that I need to exhaust myself physically, and then the emotional stuff comes to the surface, or the source of the anger which wasn't clear up until then, so that i can deal with it. But maybe this works with meditation as well. Clearing the mind. Tho with Mars/Pluto sometimes meditation is not enough.
umm yeah I agree, I exhaust myself totally before I meditate, I like how it feels, when I don't have an iota of energy in my body and I'm flat on the floor, so relaxing, sometimes I fall asleep lol. IP: Logged |
Cinnamon sky Knowflake Posts: 112 From: Registered: Aug 2016
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posted December 12, 2016 12:26 PM
I'm wondering, how many of us (especially with the hard aspects) had experieces in childhood when it was more or less clearly epressed that expressing anger or even asserting your needs is not accepted, is "bad". I know that most of us get programmed that anger is an emotion we "shouldn't have", but it seems that for Mars/ Pluto people it went further than that. At least this is my impression.In my case, both my father and grandfather have/ had a lot of Aries/ Martian energy in their charts, but somehow both repressed it in a way. And when you repress something in you, nothing makes you angrier than when you see someone letting themselves do that freely. So yeah, there are some not so nice memories with this one. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 5669 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted December 12, 2016 12:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by TensionEmpire: omg dude I`m fked I have done this for years
Must have been hard. I used to work out like crazy during that time, I had too much energy and no other outlet. The strangest and funniest thing about my celibacy phase was that I found every woman hot, hormones! There are other things I experienced, but that'd need a separate thread. IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 618 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 12, 2016 01:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by Cinnamon sky: I'm wondering, how many of us (especially with the hard aspects) had experieces in childhood when it was more or less clearly epressed that expressing anger or even asserting your needs is not accepted, is "bad". I know that most of us get programmed that anger is an emotion we "shouldn't have", but it seems that for Mars/ Pluto people it went further than that. At least this is my impression.In my case, both my father and grandfather have/ had a lot of Aries/ Martian energy in their charts, but somehow both repressed it in a way. And when you repress something in you, nothing makes you angrier than when you see someone letting themselves do that freely. So yeah, there are some not so nice memories with this one.
I have this memory of mine, very in the past, where I was little and my parents put me in some kind of psychologyst where i was afraid and cried of steping off one chair to another. still today i really don`t know what was that place that i went to. and it is strange because i am a daredevil. when i was born my mother told me i screamed 3 month in a row haha i did not like to wear cloths in the start I don`t know somehow i make people afraid, eaven my parents. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 8602 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 12, 2016 01:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Cinnamon sky: I'm wondering, how many of us (especially with the hard aspects) had experieces in childhood when it was more or less clearly epressed that expressing anger or even asserting your needs is not accepted, is "bad". I know that most of us get programmed that anger is an emotion we "shouldn't have", but it seems that for Mars/ Pluto people it went further than that
Shortly before I turned 13 (and as transiting Pluto was starting to align with my Sag stellium), I was being goosed by this one boy over and over. I told him to stop, but that just made it funnier for him. And then as I went up a flight of stairs, him goosing me from behind, I turned on a mid-landing and kicked him in the face. I don't know if he appreciated having many kids there or not as all the kids kept him from landing hard and seriously hurting himself, but on the other hand, they were laughing up a storm and he wasn't able to get hold onto anything so that he rolled all the way down the stairs. I was called into the office about 5 minutes later. That principal got a good dose of what a Libra stellium sextile Sag stellium can say, and he was at a loss when he could not shame me for what I did, nor would I say I was sorry or apologize. The last part I recall is that I'd described what he was doing and he said, "Boys will be boys." I replied, "And girls will be girls." And that's when he gave up and put me into an in school suspension. As it was, even girls I didn't know passed me notes and let me know they appreciated what I did, which was a very unusual experience for me. I know the boy was a laughingstock for awhile, too (and I'm not aware of him goosing anymore girls after that, but I didn't keep tabs on him and he stayed far away from me). But a school shrink would talk my parents into sending me to a mental hospital (it turned out later that he got bounties for every kid he got put into a certain facility as long as the parents had insurance to pay for it). I simply can't talk candidly about that place, but it was a teen gulag. The things they did to me...if I found myself back in time, I doubt I'd have kicked that boy in the face, and if I were in that hospital, I'd have allowed myself to be raped by an adult rather than what I did, and what I was severely punished for. I can't think of that place too much without wanting to throw up. And a big component was blaming me for everything because I fought back, even against sexual molestation, which I was told I had not right to do as I was too young to understand what was going on. Ug, I'm starting to get ticked off again. I really don't understand why some people want to return to being a child and thus nonperson again. Kids get a lot of sympathy from me. IP: Logged |
Cinnamon sky Knowflake Posts: 112 From: Registered: Aug 2016
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posted December 12, 2016 03:13 PM
@Pixiejane, thanks for sharing that story, uh, it wasn't a light read. I can relate to what you are saying about kids, about being powerless. In my case I got somehow convinced that it's safer if I just repress all the power, all the anger. Interesting and sad, how children automatically adjust to any situation, giving away parts of themselves. I don't have many concrete memories of how this happened to me, for me it was later, in high school where I just knew, I'm powerless. I started slipping into depression, it was like, all the others are allowed to do whatever and I wasn't. But at that point there was nothing specific going on, there was nobody there to stop me, to tell me "you're not allowed". I just gave up the power long ago, before that, and didn't even realise it until then. I have a few memories from earlier childhood being restricted all the time from doing stuff but nothing specific. Some very painful slaps when I was slamming doors (then was when all the anger of my father came out). Anyway, it took me some years, to get out of this pattern of powerlessness, and I think I learned some lessons, well, still ongoing IP: Logged |