posted December 16, 2016 03:35 AM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
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VIRGO: Virgo wants to be perfect so much that admitting to wrongdoing is painful. Eventually, humility might win and you might just hear a I was wrong from Virgo's pursed lips.

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my father and mother, both sun virgo along with venus. my mother had mercury in virgo as well. I never experience the admittance of mistakes from any of them

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Well I have Virgo sun with moon in Pisces, Jupiter conjunct Uranus in the 1H and chart ruler pluto in Libra and I am very good about admitting when I am wrong bc I value truth and fairness a lot and I like this a lot about myself actually, it also irritates me when a Taurus riser can't ever admit his wrong and always says is my fault always lol (come on! Really? I don't think so).

posted December 16, 2016 04:00 AM            

in my defense, you only has sun virgo and my mother mercury,venus,sun...

I know we cannot apply the archetype descripton to the person. I already clarified that in my last post. I would say that ONLY when a person is strong in an archetype without any "mitigating" factor, the person will exhibit with high probability the traits of the archetype. for instance, my mother is very strong in virgo. I assume Belage was referring to the PURE sign, not to person having planets in that sign and I know many people with virgo placement will not be like my mother.

posted December 16, 2016 06:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:

LIBRA: Sign most likely to say I am wrong. Because it can see both sides of an issue.

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you sure know how to compliment yourself

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Originally posted by Belage:

AQUA: Not sure about that one. Your thoughts?

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posted December 16, 2016 07:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Even the most perfect among us are wrong once in a while. Let us explore how the different signs are able to admit they are wrong. My thoughts and observations can apply to the sun, the moon and the mercury placements:

ARIES: Surprisingly enough, many Aries can easily say I am wrong. But first they have to cause a lot of damage.

TAURUS: Cannot, will not admit to wrongdoing. Due to its fixed nature, admitting to being wrong would mean Taurus would have to change, which is very difficult,

GEMINI: Can admit to wrongdoing. Doesn't think it's that serious. And expect universal forgiveness.

CANCER: Because of its tender soft inner body, saying I am wrong is like exposing to the world its soft tender vulnerable body underneath the crab's hard shell. It's not gonna happen. Don't waste your time.

LEO: Leo is the king/queen, and royalty is never wrong. But in an act of magnanimity, Leo can admit to wrongdoing.

VIRGO: Virgo wants to be perfect so much that admitting to wrongdoing is painful. Eventually, humility might win and you might just hear a I was wrong from Virgo's pursed lips.

LIBRA: Sign most likely to say I am wrong. Because it can see both sides of an issue.

SCORPIO: Won't admit to wrongdoing because the end justifies the means. Period.

SAGG: Yes, Sagg can admit to wrongdoing. Then go back doing the same thing again!

CAPRICORN: Will admit to wrongdoing if his money is impacted. As in corporation admitting to wrongdoing if the bottom line suffers.

AQUA: Not sure about that one. Your thoughts?

PISCES: Will admit to wrongdoing. Maybe even too easily.

Allright, I know it sounds stereotypical but I wanted to keep it light and funny. Did you recognize yourself or your friends and frenemies?

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posted December 16, 2016 10:53 AM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
LOL I have Taurus AC...

in my defense, you only has sun virgo and my mother mercury,venus,sun...

I know we cannot apply the archetype descripton to the person. I already clarified that in my last post. I would say that ONLY when a person is strong in an archetype without any "mitigating" factor, the person will exhibit with high probability the traits of the archetype. for instance, my mother is very strong in virgo. I assume Belage was referring to the PURE sign, not to person having planets in that sign and I know many people with virgo placement will not be like my mother.

Peace!

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Well I can see how having too many Virgo placements maybe will make you over sensitive to criticism and hard to admit when you are wrong too.

posted December 16, 2016 10:54 AM            

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Originally posted by florence:
Yea, I find it hard. Taurus sun, Scorpio asc. Sag moon does find it easy. In private I think the fixed signs do question themselves a lot and so feel it doubly to admit to being wrong.

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posted December 16, 2016 01:59 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Well I can see how having too many Virgo placements maybe will make you over sensitive to criticism and hard to admit when you are wrong too.

I do love AC in Taurus risers though, great cooks among other things, my partner has it.

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posted December 16, 2016 02:10 PM            

Lmao, yes. "Yes, I can totally see why that can be considered wrong, but the 'right' way does not go with my personal philosophy, so suck it."

posted December 16, 2016 05:02 PM            

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Originally posted by UrsusBlack:
I'm the one to apologize a good portion of the time. You need to choose your battles. Scorpio may be stubborn, but I often think people's view of it are more "fixed" than Scorpios themselves are at times

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I've known some fairly easygoing Scorpios. Perhaps they're only truly fixed on something that matters to them. While I've met Scorpios who live up to the stereotype (both good and/or bad), most were not that extreme.

But having read about the fixed, stubborn nature of Scorpio (that can be the unending loyalty some hope for, and the burning obsession that others fear) I was a bit surprised not too long ago. I tried to find very old posts by me under and old screen name and there were only a handful of hits (and that's after trying 3 browsers). None of those old posts existed, but I did find people talking about me (under that screen name) long after, particularly 2. Those two and I generally got along, but we had some passionate arguments back in the day, and they with each other. Both of them were Scorpios. And yet we generally got along, and years after I interacted with them, both listed each other and myself among those they missed or respected, and having made it "worth it" to interact with strangers online.

I was very touched by that (years later and they remembered me!), and struck me just how exaggerated the reputation of Scorpio (about their seeing the world in black and white, friend or foe, punish every imagined slight, care only about those they can get something from or have sex with, etc) is.

posted December 16, 2016 05:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
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GEMINI: Can admit to wrongdoing. Doesn't think it's that serious. And expect universal forgiveness.

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The Gemini one is very true for me.
I'm a big violator of "failing gracefully".

..You handled the situation as best as you could, you were honest the entire time, but you just didn't make it this time....

Assuming the person on the other end is human, they should hopefully be understanding of the fact you tried your very best...your decision was logical and based on what information was available at the time..they should be forgiving that you were wrong or failed.

I know I try to be understanding when people fail or are wrong... well sorta.

One twin wants to ring the persons neck. The other tries to figure out did they handle the situation intelligibly as best as they could and was the situation so against them?

Somehow I come to some decision in the middle....

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AQUA: Not sure about that one. Your thoughts?

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Aquarius is interesting...

Especially if there are earth planets. They can be incredible stubborn when they think there right.

The Air and Fixed combo can be tough...

The best thing is not to argue and just let them fail or if there wrong it will come back on them and they will realize it later.

One time I was driving and my Aquarius friend was so insistent on going the opposite direction.

I knew the correct direction and I figured, how lost can she get us...anyway?

Heres an opportunity for her never to question my directions ever again.

So I listened to her...and we got lost, but I kinda knew where we were anyway.

After that she never argues with me in the car, hehe...

Of course it depends on what type of Aquarius they are...

I have Dick Cheney on one end of the spectrum and Oprah Winfrey on the other.

posted December 16, 2016 05:44 PM            

After all...what are facts?

The sky is not blue, it's every color.

You are not solid, you are 99% empty space.

You think you were born in 1990 but in other calendars that time goes by another number.

The dress is BOTH gold and white and black and blue.

Light that reaches us from the sun happens now but it really happened 8 minutes and 20 seconds ago.

posted December 16, 2016 06:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Since Saturn squared Neptune, I have been trying to not make definitive statements too often. So how can I be wrong?

After all...what are facts?

The sky is not blue, it's every color.

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I don't know what to say. Its one of those statements that can be correct in both ways.

You're right every color in the spectrum is in the sky. But because of Scattering the sky is blue..most of the time.

So.. I don't know what to say... If your good person you would be considerate to see it both ways.

If your not you'll be stubborn to hold your view and not see it both ways.

posted December 16, 2016 06:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
I dont see why us, Virgos, need to apologize for what it seems is other people's mistakes

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posted December 16, 2016 06:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I was just being goofy.

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posted December 16, 2016 07:12 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Your Venus in sag with moon in Pisces completely took off

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Yes

Strange mix.

I'll explain what I mean in a second.

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
If your good person you would be considerate to see it both ways.

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I was listening to this in the car a few minutes ago, on my iPod. Considerately (?)

Start @ :20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tCMI0uKbBE

So I guess this is acting like a good person, seeing the other side?

posted December 16, 2016 11:22 PM            

Hmmm, let's rethink that!

posted December 17, 2016 12:31 AM            

I've become more rigid now. I can still adnit to wrong-doing but it has to legitimately be a wrong-doing.

posted December 17, 2016 03:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
As an Aquarius I can usually admit to being wrong and making mistakes at times. A lot of it though may have been a result of self-blame for a lot of things gone wrong.

I've become more rigid now. I can still adnit to wrong-doing but it has to legitimately be a wrong-doing.

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