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AwakenSky16
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posted December 21, 2016 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AwakenSky16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes, this article is interesting. I discovered my Leo's cage

"Leo tends to become identified with the action: believing you are what you do. He becomes so lost in the many masks he has to wear, each with their own particular set of duties and responsibilities, that he loses sight of his true Self. A king is not free to do as he pleases; he is imprisoned in his role, bound by obligation and duty. This Lion is in a cage.
A very strong sense of duty, obligation and loyalty can imprison Leo in a pattern of continuously meeting manmade obligations that distract him from seeking out and discovering the inner truth of his Being." (Ruth Hadikin - https://realastrologers.com/2011/07/29/leo-aquarius-power-purpose-and-the-path-of-self-realization-part-i/)

A part of my youth felt harshly the rules of society enacted through education. There were the good ones and the others! I keep the best but I now get up for what could be stifled before because it disturbed: my individuality. The Leo is all about preserving the appearance and the aquarius does not have to do ... I keep Leo loyalty (with good limits), desire for elevation (but not pure social sense, more spiritual .. .) Something about being able to tend toward something bigger, moving away from baseness ... Generous, I can be very present to others, shine then as Aqua moon withdraw me, silent and Observer.
I can feel good in a group, as long as I can stay there myself, with my values ​​and beliefs and that the group is respectful of each of its members, otherwise I leave it because it does not bring anything of what Is important to me! The group must be the bearer of the achievement of each and not a straitjacket aimed at smoothing the differences and making "sheep". I am attached to no group but I like people who think together to build ...
As much as possible. I need to be appreciated for what I am like a Leo, to take light sometimes. But ... if I am not, I pass like the aqua and I detach myself. For this, building the ego is not easy. I think that the best recognition can come only from oneself and from the experience of what one is capable (there is a certain part of solitude but it is not all): one must know to look back to take Awareness of what has been accomplished ... My Leo seems to want more and my aqua wants to forget or not see what has been or is, it is on future constructions ... I think I managed to find a balance . Leo gives me creativity, fighting spirit sometimes, for the best and aqua inventiveness, simplicity, openness is perhaps a good way to be resilien! But that does not prevent me from often feeling out of place, having dazzling ideas on things and finding that it does not always go in the direction that may be heard by others ... on the moment
Also, Leo and Aqua are very sensitive but in a very different way, certainly complementary that can draw the emotional at each end!

Hoping that all this does not appear too BLABLABLA

Do not quote please.

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venus2tinkerbell
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posted December 21, 2016 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the 7th house is the house of reflections. It is the house that reflects the relationship with self through relationships with others. From the 1st we initiate and interact with life. And from the 7th we receive "judgement" of our authenticity through the relationships we attract- through the 7th we see our reflection.

For example a Leo who is not ready to be vulnerable will attract, and worse, be attracted to, an emotionally unavailable Aquarius.

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posted December 22, 2016 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReachingForTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for such a thoughtful response, AS16! Not at all gibberish.

I think ego development is difficult no matter who you are. Leos especially must feel a particular challenge having to establish their originality in a world with such strong views. I have my own issues with the education system in my country. I'm sorry if you felt oppressed by yours. I really hate how we teach our kids to think and the values we instill by promoting certain subjects and concentrations over others.

I can relate to being loyal to a cause or defining yourself by something you do... loyalty to something outside of yourself instead of your core motivations. Take the world's religious past (no offense to anyone) for example, people can get so caught up teaching love and morality that they unwittingly deceive themselves out of living what they preach persecuting their neighbors and condemning their brothers. I like what you say about validation needing to come from the self. In my experience, I ALWAYS know when something is off, when I've had too much agreeing or I've sacrificed too much how how I really feel and think. I think it's only when we are comfortable acknowledging and accepting that inner knowing that we can truly feel a sense of belonging. The only acceptance we need is our own, or at least, this should be where we start. Then, congregate with those who vibrate on the same wavelength. I definitely don't mean to imply we only need ourselves. I think this requires the mind and heart to act as one.

Moving away from baseness, strait jacket, attachment... I think these are key concepts we need to figure out! There is like this tough to manage balance between attachment and entrapment, loyalty and obligation, acceptance and yielding... here I go polarizing for the sake of understanding.

Thank you again for your thoughts! My solar return ASC is in Leo!

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posted December 22, 2016 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ReachingForTheStars, do you have a similar article by Ruth about the Cancer-Capricorn polarity?

My DSC is in Cancer, and so are my Sun and Venus in te 7th house. People who don't know me see my Capricorn traits. I am more identified with Cancer, even though I am aiming high in my ambitions, or at least I have... and I plan ahead. In relationships I am nurturing, and also attracted to partners who have ambitions (but who are also extremely sensitive), and with whom I can share dreams and inspire to success... even though that perhaps would have fit better to a Capricorn DSC...

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posted December 22, 2016 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReachingForTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
@ReachingForTheStars, do you have a similar article by Ruth about the Cancer-Capricorn polarity?

My DSC is in Cancer, and so are my Sun and Venus in te 7th house. People who don't know me see my Capricorn traits. I am more identified with Cancer, even though I am aiming high in my ambitions, or at least I have... and I plan ahead. In relationships I am nurturing, and also attracted to partners who have ambitions, and with whom I can share dreams and inspire to success... even though that perhaps would have fit better to a Capricorn DSC...


It's interesting that a lot of the people who've replied to this thread have a 7th house emphasis. I kinda experience it the same way. I seem one way on the outside, but feel another way on the inside. I think this divide has something to do with the whole integration challenge. My moon is in Cap in my 7th house along with Neptune. My nodes are in the cancer cap axis, so of course I have those links

Cancer/Cap Part 1:

http://www.google.com/amp/s/realastrologers.co m/2011/06/29/cancer-capricorn-the-conscious-journey-home-part-i/amp/?client=safari


Cancer/Capricorn Part 2:

http://www.google.com/amp/s/realastrologers.c om/2011/07/02/cancer-capricorn-the-conscious-journey-home-part-ii/amp/?client=safari


Capricorn/Cancer Part 1:

http://lifecoachingmagazine.net/capricorn-cancer/

Capricorn/Cancer Part 2:

http://lifecoachingmagazine.net/capricorn-cancer-2/


I find it's beneficial to read about the polarities from both perspectives. And, I orgot to mention these articles are two part. Enjoy!


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posted December 22, 2016 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReachingForTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
I think the 7th house is the house of reflections. It is the house that reflects the relationship with self through relationships with others.

For example a Leo who is not ready to be vulnerable will attract, and worse, be attracted to, an emotionally unavailable Aquarius.


"It is the house that reflects the relationship with the self through relationships with others." Indeed!

Unfortunately, the integration process can be pretty harsh. It takes a tremendous amount of awareness to realize why one is attracted to or attracts certain individuals. Be kind to yourselves, people!!

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posted December 22, 2016 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AwakenSky16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ ReachingForTheStars:

Thank you, you were just able to express the substance of my thought and also ... what I didn't say but that I felt throughout your answer.
Yes, the education system of children would not sufficiently enhance their creative potential. A better knowledge of their sensitivity and intelligence remains necessary. I don't like the idea of ​​modeling small individuals becoming on bases that don't sufficiently take into account their individual development (personal, affective ...). Most of the time, we are still too familiar with "ancestral" educational beliefs that can be abusive without appearing ... for the children as well as for the adults who are around them. In spite of everything, I believe that things can happen even when they are floating around. A great question is that of education in a global view, including religious way (but we are just human, with all that encompasses even if we do it well without some things and behaviors, isn't it?).

I am really fully with you here:
"Then, congregate with those who vibrate on the same wavelength. I definitely don't mean to imply we only need ourselves. I think this requires the mind and heart to act as one.
Moving away from baseness, strait jacket, attachment... I think these are key concepts we need to figure out! There is like this tough to manage balance between attachment and entrapment, loyalty and obligation, acceptance and yielding... here I go polarizing for the sake of understanding."

"Thanks again for your thoughts! My solar return ASC is in Leo!" Oh good ! Make it well !! Mine will be soon in libra/aries... I don't know if I will feel good there (so unknown for me)...I loved some aspects of my RS Scorp./Taurean, I am going to leave it with a little trouble...

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posted December 22, 2016 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ReachingForTheStars:
It takes a tremendous amount of awareness to realize why one is attracted to or attracts certain individuals. Be kind to yourselves, people!!

Indeed it all starts with love and kindness. And the adjustments are made with tenderness. I say "and worse". I shouldn't. That's the drama that I do enjoy

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posted December 22, 2016 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow. You know what? That wasn't the end of my point. I intended to speak directly to what Spirit was talking about. Somehow I just posted part of it and then... Anyway, in my case, even though I don't have planets in my seventh, my Aquarian nature is strong with a 4th house Urano trine Cancer Sun Venus. Balance and imbalance in expression of the whole chart will be shown by what the 7th house brings in relationships. (Sorry I'm rushing gotta go to work). So whether you have planets in 7 or not, you are your 7th somewhere in your chart. hope that got across. Good day!

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posted December 22, 2016 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ReachingForTheStars:
It's interesting that a lot of the people who've replied to this thread have a 7th house emphasis. I kinda experience it the same way. I seem one way on the outside, but feel another way on the inside. I think this divide has something to do with the whole integration challenge. My moon is in Cap in my 7th house along with Neptune. My nodes are in the cancer cap axis, so of course I have those links

Cancer/Cap Part 1:

http://www.google.com/amp/s/realastrologers.co m/2011/06/29/cancer-capricorn-the-conscious-journey-home-part-i/amp/?client=safari


Cancer/Capricorn Part 2:

http://www.google.com/amp/s/realastrologers.c om/2011/07/02/cancer-capricorn-the-conscious-journey-home-part-ii/amp/?client=safari


Capricorn/Cancer Part 1:

http://lifecoachingmagazine.net/capricorn-cancer/

Capricorn/Cancer Part 2:

http://lifecoachingmagazine.net/capricorn-cancer-2/


I find it's beneficial to read about the polarities from both perspectives. And, I orgot to mention these articles are two part. Enjoy!


Thanksm Interesting articles. Ring very true and wise.

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