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Topic: Open Relationships & Nonmonogamy
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rorrr Knowflake Posts: 241 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 22, 2016 09:07 AM
Any scorpio or taurus venus peeps who have been able to make open relationships or non-monogamy a successful model for them?Please talk about it! What did you learn? How did you first try it out? What were the rules? Would you do it again? Was it healthy? Was it truly what you wanted? Aqua venus - sorry, your answers are not needed in this thread! Love you guys but I'm looking for possessive venuses only! IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 8523 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 22, 2016 12:17 PM
I haven't tried it. But just wanted to bump and hear what other Venus in Scorpio persons have to say about it.IP: Logged |
meyray Knowflake Posts: 807 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted December 22, 2016 12:51 PM
I'm a Scorpio Venus and I would choose death over non-monogamy.IP: Logged |
SilverFeather Knowflake Posts: 1680 From: Jupiter Registered: Aug 2012
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posted December 22, 2016 12:55 PM
a Sagittarius Venus here and I know the question is not for me but I can't wait to hear some of the comments. This is a very interesting thread My sisters are both Scorpio Venus and they don't deal well with the idea of sharing and in fact my older sister left her first fiancé because he wasn't sure if he wanted to fully commit to her and her alone. her current fiancé is a Taurus Venus and they are getting married next year. My younger sister however, is an Aries Moon/Pisces sun and she has a habit of dating one more than one guy at once. I told her that's called cheating, she told me that's called keeping your options open lol You wouldn't naturally expect that from her placements but she has a very strong Stellium in her First House so most often than not, it's all about her and what she wants when it comes to relationships. My conclusion is : it takes more than just a stereotypically possessive Venus. Moon and Sun as well as the aspects/Placements to the 7th make all the difference. IP: Logged |
Starry~* Knowflake Posts: 654 From: New York, USA Registered: Nov 2011
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posted December 22, 2016 02:29 PM
Hi, Scorp venus here.Nope. 100% committed to me or get out. Even people who are on the fence about me kind of kills the attractiveness about them. I'm sorry but not sorry to say that people who are not devoted and dedicated just does not turn me on. I tried this with an old ex of mine and I just couldn't do it. That relationship ended cuz of other reasons but none of us were able to go outside of each other. It doesn't have to be relationships but devoted to work, personal growth, etc. I'm a person, I have many dimensions about me, if you really want to get to know me then you should take the time to really get to know me. If you're gonna do it, do it right. IP: Logged |
erickaf Knowflake Posts: 2034 From: Europe Registered: Oct 2014
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posted December 22, 2016 02:51 PM
My best friend has Scorpio Venus and her partner of 17 yrs is Taurus Venus....they have open relationship. She has Uranus in the 7th and he has Uranus opposite his Venus....maybe here in Europe we are more free with sex.IP: Logged |
next to neptune Knowflake Posts: 3104 From: The Moon Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 22, 2016 03:07 PM
I am a scorpio venus, and I think it would be hard for me to deal with it, but it depends on the person I am together with... I would love to be free myself, but in order to truly relax with my partner, I would have to trust him a great deal, and that he would love me above all. So if he could secure me about that, and really make me feel loved, I think it would be easier to have an open relationship... cause deep down I know that no humans are truly monogamous, and there will always be jealousy... but if you truly love someone you would also love to just see them be free (at least I would love if someone also wanted me to be free) IP: Logged |
margym0o Knowflake Posts: 1230 From: The Great White North Registered: Jul 2014
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posted December 22, 2016 03:10 PM
Not sure if this counts but my Leo Venus is square Pluto almost exact. Scorpio Moon.I agree, monogamy or death. I don't even know how I could begin to cope with having an open relationship. I think the moment I caught wind of the person I loved having interest in someone else or being intimate with someone else but still wanting to be with me, I would just shut down emotionally. IP: Logged |
YellowGerbera Knowflake Posts: 1022 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted December 22, 2016 04:48 PM
Is possessive the same as jealous?I have aries venus and i get jealous with my bf! I only want him for myself and me only! IP: Logged |
Gracha Knowflake Posts: 540 From: NY USA Registered: Jan 2013
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posted December 22, 2016 11:21 PM
taurus venus here and i'm very possessive. I tried it once or twice for very short periods like several weeks and got into trouble. Currently seeing gemini venus/mars with virgo moon, he recently asked if I could be his main girlfriend while he sees other women on the side....hecky noo.IP: Logged |
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posted December 22, 2016 11:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by next to neptune: I am a scorpio venus, and I think it would be hard for me to deal with it, but it depends on the person I am together with... I would love to be free myself, but in order to truly relax with my partner, I would have to trust him a great deal, and that he would love me above all. So if he could secure me about that, and really make me feel loved, I think it would be easier to have an open relationship... cause deep down I know that no humans are truly monogamous, and there will always be jealousy... but if you truly love someone you would also love to just see them be free (at least I would love if someone also wanted me to be free)
i feel the same way.. (scorpio venus) IP: Logged |
rorrr Knowflake Posts: 241 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 23, 2016 01:10 AM
Super fascinating. I'm scorp venus, like hardcore scorp venus with sun conj pluto all in scorp, and I agree with everything that has been said re: jealousy, possessiveness, monogamy, etc. But I'd like to see if I can enjoy nonmonogamy because I'm definitely able to handle my own side dalliances in addition to living-breathing-passionately intensely loving my committed partner. Soooo.
Looking forward to hearing more from people with possessive venuses! IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 5060 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted December 23, 2016 05:40 AM
My mom is a Scorpio Sun, Moon, Venus, Mercury all square Pluto. I could actually see her injure my father if this were to become a discussion O.OIP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 1160 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 23, 2016 05:55 AM
Till today I have dreamed about Monogamy all my life, I have Pluto squaring Venus, Mars and Jupiter in Leo. So yeah I need love. I eaven have the thought of preservation, till i meet her. What I am trying to figure out now is if this love, isn`t a egocentric fanatic love. I think this love is more me with myself..I had another experience with a girl.. Now I want to dare the devil, drink the rum, get them all and show them this love I have , and why would be a women out there that don`t deserve it? haha, this is another dream of mine The think, is, that I have Sun opp Uranus So eaven if I try my best, gril will think that I`m Masta Player
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saadsarah8 Knowflake Posts: 213 From: Ottawa, Canada Registered: Jan 2014
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posted December 23, 2016 07:28 PM
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athenaia Knowflake Posts: 1618 From: USA Registered: May 2015
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posted December 23, 2016 07:49 PM
Fixed Sun/Moon Mutuable Mars/ASC Cardinal Venus I respect healthy nonmonogamy SO MUCH. I'm obsessed with reading about it. I hope to one day be able to achieve it and flirt with the idea often. Realistically though, for my blood pressure's sake, I continue to partake in monogamy. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 9701 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 23, 2016 08:13 PM
I know one woman with a Scorpio Mars and Venus (but Sag sun) that did open relationships before. My impression is that she had endured such a controlling husband that afterward she wasn't going to put herself into the power of another man, so she kept them at a distance, but she was going to have some fun. But when those she chose for this started sharing with others, and she was getting harassed, she put a stop to it, partially because it was starting to frighten her, but also because she felt she was, once again, being put into a box and that wasn't where she wanted to be.She's monogamous now, but not into anything like marriage. She really values her freedom, but she can be so jealous and possessive. In case it needs to be said, those who practice open relationships aren't the cheaters. A person can be possessive and jealous as hell, and preach about the importance of monogamy, and still be the biggest cheater (I wonder if they're just as jealous and possessive of ALL their partners, or if one is primary and the rest are disposable, or how it works for the said person). ETA: the biggest cheaters tend to assume their partners are just as unfaithful which makes them jealous and possessive. When someone, male or female, gets this jealous and possessive, I automatically question their own faithfulness. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 13979 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 23, 2016 09:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: I know one woman with a Scorpio Mars and Venus (but Sag sun) that did open relationships before. My impression is that she had endured such a controlling husband that afterward she wasn't going to put herself into the power of another man, so she kept them at a distance, but she was going to have some fun. But when those she chose for this started sharing with others, and she was getting harassed, she put a stop to it, partially because it was starting to frighten her, but also because she felt she was, once again, being put into a box and that wasn't where she wanted to be.She's monogamous now, but not into anything like marriage. She really values her freedom, but she can be so jealous and possessive. In case it needs to be said, those who practice open relationships aren't the cheaters. A person can be possessive and jealous as hell, and preach about the importance of monogamy, and still be the biggest cheater (I wonder if they're just as jealous and possessive of ALL their partners, or if one is primary and the rest are disposable, or how it works for the said person).
Great example, my uncle is a Sag with Venus in Scorpio who loves women but monogomy is not his thing lol. He married once and was not faithful although to him that was the love of his life, she divorced him and he never married again, he was young when they divorced. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16931 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 23, 2016 09:17 PM
One woman I know who lived this way, and may still be (she's in a relationship with a guy), got divorced to live this lifestyle, when Uranus was conjunction her Pisces sun. I think Pluto followed with a trine to her Venus, but I can't remember. IP: Logged |
panzi Knowflake Posts: 100 From: none Registered: Aug 2015
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posted December 24, 2016 12:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by next to neptune: I am a scorpio venus, and I think it would be hard for me to deal with it, but it depends on the person I am together with... I would love to be free myself, but in order to truly relax with my partner, I would have to trust him a great deal, and that he would love me above all. So if he could secure me about that, and really make me feel loved, I think it would be easier to have an open relationship... cause deep down I know that no humans are truly monogamous, and there will always be jealousy... but if you truly love someone you would also love to just see them be free (at least I would love if someone also wanted me to be free)
Excuse me but why being in a relationship with 1 person would feel like you are not free?I am trying hard to understand why is this trend in today's world to "liberate" and "think outside the box" meaning that you cannot be truly free unless you are non-monogamous?Liberate who from whom exactly? Yes there are true monogamic people out there,just because you didn't meet them it does not mean that they don't exist.Monogamy is a personal choice after all and we as humans(and not animals) are able to make choices. IP: Logged |
Lerena Knowflake Posts: 1388 From: Registered: May 2015
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posted December 24, 2016 12:50 AM
I'm a Venus in Taurus. My boyfriend would tear me a new one if I ever started this conversation. Fortunately, I'm not the type for non-monogamy. I am just too monogamous for an open relationship. My life revolves around a single partner and I'm happy with that.Leaving out my personal values, do you really think I have time to put effort into more than one relationship? I'm one of the pickiest people alive. When I find love, I become so focused on the other person that no one else could possibly become a priority. Managing another relationship would just drive me nuts. Besides, I only need one lover to be happy and I am not okay with an open relationship. Other couples can do what they want, but I need my partner to be fully committed to just me. IP: Logged |
saadsarah8 Knowflake Posts: 213 From: Ottawa, Canada Registered: Jan 2014
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posted December 24, 2016 02:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: I know one woman with a Scorpio Mars and Venus (but Sag sun) that did open relationships before. My impression is that she had endured such a controlling husband that afterward she wasn't going to put herself into the power of another man, so she kept them at a distance, but she was going to have some fun. But when those she chose for this started sharing with others, and she was getting harassed, she put a stop to it, partially because it was starting to frighten her, but also because she felt she was, once again, being put into a box and that wasn't where she wanted to be.She's monogamous now, but not into anything like marriage. She really values her freedom, but she can be so jealous and possessive. In case it needs to be said, those who practice open relationships aren't the cheaters. A person can be possessive and jealous as hell, and preach about the importance of monogamy, and still be the biggest cheater (I wonder if they're just as jealous and possessive of ALL their partners, or if one is primary and the rest are disposable, or how it works for the said person). ETA: the biggest cheaters tend to assume their partners are just as unfaithful which makes them jealous and possessive. When someone, male or female, gets this jealous and possessive, I automatically question their own faithfulness.
Ummm I beg to differ. If anything, my jealousy and possessiveness are only a way for me to be actualize what I want from a bond with another person and I'm constantly working to tone them down and not let them affect my relationships. I hate to believe that people like me are cheaters.. if anything our overwhelming sense of belonging with and to another person is what makes our minds possibly suspicious and paranoid about our loved ones. - a Plutonian whose intense feelings are anything but a coverup for betrayal.
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PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 9701 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 24, 2016 05:44 PM
^^Note, I said "automatically question." I did not say "assume."
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rorrr Knowflake Posts: 241 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 26, 2016 02:53 AM
Ugh guys, please stop bringing personal opinions about jealousy or cheating into this thread. You're derailing my thread! :-)I'm looking to hear from Scorp / Taurus venuses who have tried open relationships! DUH the ones who can't bare the thought of nonmonogamy! Your opinions are not interesting here, so don't get upset about it! You feel the way you feel, and I'm asking about people who defy this expectation because THAT is interesting. Happy holidays & cheers! IP: Logged |
babybull82 Knowflake Posts: 961 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 26, 2016 03:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by rorrr: Ugh guys, please stop bringing personal opinions about jealousy or cheating into this thread. You're derailing my thread! :-)I'm looking to hear from Scorp / Taurus venuses who have tried open relationships! DUH the ones who can't bare the thought of nonmonogamy! Your opinions are not interesting here, so don't get upset about it! You feel the way you feel, and I'm asking about people who defy this expectation because THAT is interesting. Happy holidays & cheers!
I was involved with a man who was married to a woman who's Venus is in Taurus (actually her Venus conjunct my sun very closely) It was a joint decision. She has Mars in Scorpio too and I think the sex aspect of having an open relationship she really enjoyed. But when her husband first met me he wanted to be with me in a relationship right away and she didn't understand why he couldn't just be casual with me. So yes she struggled a lot with sharing and jealousy in the beginning. Me and him broke up for about a yr and then got back together June of 2015. Me and her talked about what went wrong last time and things became better between us and we even tried to become a "triad". Funny thing is she started to become possessive over me and tried to dictate how I conducted my relationships outside of them. To be completely honest though I feel them opening up their marriage (September 2013) was just to delay the inevitable because as of October of this yr their divorce has been finalized.
They are both very fixed: She's a Taurus and he's a Scorpio Sun, with Scorpio ascendant (which means Taurus on the descendant),Venus and Mars in Virgo and I think this was their last ditch effort to keep together something that had been falling apart for awhile. IP: Logged |