posted December 25, 2016 03:04 AM            

so even though it wont be me, it will be similar to what is happening to me

they will be thinking about life

posted December 25, 2016 03:08 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
But why celebrate it, there is no point. Besides retaining status quo, which is fine, for a few more years then in 15 years everyone will stop. That's my prediction.

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posted December 25, 2016 03:11 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
i'm just trying to get across coping with athiesm. not have the fortune of blindly believing in an eternal afterlife. i actually understand reality. not the former.

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posted December 25, 2016 03:24 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
in 2 more years people will feel christmas is more of a "drag" (boring/stress/takes too much time), the word will get around and people will say how they dont really celebrate it much, until about 20% will stop in several years, then the only people still celebrating through the next 10 yaers after will REALLY be holding on to it, by 20 years time only 5-8% will be celebrating it. at all.

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posted December 25, 2016 03:26 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
yes, as long as there is a person similar to me, in the future, they are me, i don't know it's hard to describe it, but if someone is existing at all, life goes on, they are alive and in some ultimate way, that is just like me right now being alive , although without my memory

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posted December 25, 2016 05:15 AM            

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Of course I do, too, and actually I the philosophizing - but lately I`ve come to feel there comes a point when it`s time to stop thinking and just smell the roses in the present.

posted December 25, 2016 08:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Lerena:
Christmas, in my opinion, isn't much of a celebration. I hate it, mostly because it is a highly commercialized holiday. People buy each other presents and put on smiles for an entire 24 hours and I'd rather not ask the universe to make me happy every single Christmas. That doesn't work and the universe isn't going to do that.

Granted, I know I sound bitter in this post, but Christmas seriously stresses me out.

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posted December 25, 2016 08:27 PM            

It's irrelevant for them usually. Those bothered by it simply don't "celebrate" it during that time.

Soren, I don't mean to offend, and I'm truly sorry if I do, but you come across as...quite bitter. Why do you care what other people do or don't celebrate?

posted December 25, 2016 09:24 PM            

the OP was actually about prevailing attitudes towards many social norms that people feel obligated to do, merely because of it was the thing people did in the past, and my post was merely encouraging people that it is happening for a reason if they are losing interest, it's because of the changing energies, and in fact i encourage people to not feel discouraged and always do what you want, if you dont want to celebrate, then dont.

has nothing to do with christian faith. merely talking to people who already feel like it's pointless, to stop.

posted December 25, 2016 09:30 PM            

Thank you for taking the time to clear things up for me.

posted December 26, 2016 07:16 PM            

Christmas (et al) is about Sharing...
Valentine is about Sharing...
We GIVE something FROM ourselves TO an Other.

Learning to DO the sharing, NOT out of a sense of obligation, but APPLYING yourself TO the action and intention of Giving, is what counts. You make a bridge from your material and your Consciousness TO an Other Person.

Learn to be a Cheerful Giver... and it Gives Back in ways you'd never expect. And these are LONG Lasting.

I saw the comment you made saying that some have called out 'The End' to age of Pisces (Jesus' Age), and that it is 'now' to 'only' be Aquarius. No god but your own self, is what I hear some teachers promoting. I think they missed the 'spiritual' part of it, somehow....

The Age of Aquarius.... is Called to Be The Age of TRUE Brotherhood and Sisterhood, and Neighborhood, and Planet'hood.

For us born in this age right now, we would have needed to learn and inbody the lessons of Compassion and Sharing (like at Christmas) first, before we Understand Aquarius. We need that ability or capacity to be moved within us, with Compassionate Hearts and Minds.... before our relo to the 'Hood of Aquarius.

Without Compassion.... and regard to the plight of other Humans (on the planet, including the planet and all that dwells upon it), this human race will cease to exist. Quietly... asking What would have killed it? .... (without judging, I say) selfishness, blinders. Being out for Number One as the ONLY one.

Jesus.... was from Piscean Age, but also is referred to in the symbol of Aquarius.

He is the clay figure of "The Man" of Flesh Pouring out Waters (Pisces), of Compassions from the lips of the Potter's Vessel... He (and we) are the clay vessel, fixed human-forms; our body, the outer Temple or House, for our living and eternal soul, and the Indwelling of The Spirit of God (aka MotherFatherGod; Love... and every positive attribute).

Jesus Laid Down His Life (his career, his reputation, his wants and ego needs). He was obedient to the plan of God for his life, when his flesh would have rathered him not to suffer the kind of death that was prophesied. He lay down his mortal life, all the fame and success and Power he could have had through his Magnetism and Sheer Attractiveness.... He gave up his biology, in order to follow and do a Service of supreme sacrifice for the Whole of Humanity. And, we owe NOTHING for this, except to accept it, and just Live. There is NO Requirement to feel guilty for this (as some religions like to harp and beat people up with a little too strongly, for a sensitive-few.... I know about that-- feeling like I was 'the blame' for everything. The leaf falls off the tree??, was my fault! *gives up* LOL).

The ONLY thing we Owe (Jesus) is TO Live our life, in similar manner... We think about not-just our self, but Others....We Love Ourself. We Love the Things of Spirit. We Love Others. We must be Strong.... for and to each other. Our future depends on it.

The Birth of Jesus is historically guessed-- from accounts of star formations, prophetic events in the sky, and governmental records of his existence.
... Jesus was most-likely a Pisces (~OR! LOL, 29Virgo/zero degree Libra!).
With the Pisces Sun birth time, he would have been also born with a powerful Pisces Stellium, cluster.... born to be sacrificed.
(see refs in 'Magi' post bumped in Div Div).

Rituals are just the OUTER representation of something that marks what occurred or is about to occur on the INSIDE.

{{You missed some of my Yule postings! LOL. }}

Even as I watched Yule youtubes... I could 'tell' the difference between the ones who really Knew and Understood what Power there is in the symbolisms, and sounds. They 'Knew' what their holiday was about.

Everything we do, works for something. It advances us.... sometimes if not right away, there's an outpouring later.

That's like Communion in the church... Not everyone discerns what the True meanings are, and how Rich the Power of that Symbol potential is, when we engage in re-enacting.

(Laughing here.... I think I could preach?! omg LOL!!!!! ha! A Christmas Inspired Sag Rising Chart here. --- ADD, I'm a supporter-type person. I've had training, and people do ask me questions and listen to me.... but I'm a one on one person. I've never been really a formal preacher-type. Maybe years ago? --- yeah, you'd have seen me jumping on fire all over the place! LOL... No. I think my place is in the audience, drawing down the anointing. Staying in my lane of abilities.) *reverie over*

Okay.... some silly Christmas-like proof???

EVEN one of my preBirth Eclipses happened ON Christmas Morning, about 20 mins past Midnight, while I was IN my Mother's Womb, who was in church right then for Midnight Mass. She was at the point of pregnancy where she was probably feeling the Quickenings in her womb right then. {"quickening", in obstetrics, is the perception of movement}. She felt the leaping and twirling of the developing baby within her womb.

(Oh! AND, to add that I was born on Pentecost Sunday, too!!! Zeal and Enthusiasm have always been a part of my Sag-rising nature.... with all the somberness, depths, and sensitivities of Water and Scorpio too-- H11 Scorp, H12 Scorp; stellium 8th CancerCusp)

Bottom line......? I am a Lover of the Divine, and a Poetic Soul.

Learn what the symbolism IS behind your rituals. Don't just go through the motions. LEARN, then 'own' what that is-- for your heritage, your belief system.

I think this song sums a lot of it....

(music) The Secret of Christmas (Bing Crosby, lyrics) [1:47] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NB0TLX2mrQ

lyrics

"It's not the things you do at Christmas time, it's the Christmas things you do all year through."

LYRICS:
Oh, It's not the glow you feel, when snow appears
It's not the Christmas card, you've sent for years
Not the joyful sound, when sleigh bells ring (ring ring ring)
Or the merry songs the children sing

The little gift you send, on Christmas day,
Will not bring back a friend you turned away
So may we suggest the secret of Christmas
It's not the things you do at Christmas time
But the Christmas things you do all year through.

posted December 26, 2016 07:45 PM            

the end of time

where will you go

where are we gonna be in 10 minutes

what is going on tomorrow

and the next day and the next week and next month

that is the mutable age

fixed is non-changing. fixed is falling to the ground and laying there. forever.

fixed is eating as much as you can to numb all your feelings. numb= frozen= still=fixed.

posted December 26, 2016 07:51 PM            

pisces is much more focused on the end, the afterlife (nearly all thought goes towards that concept from the bible)

so i can't imagine how people could put so much thought into the past?

posted December 26, 2016 07:57 PM            

there is an afterlife, and it is of spirit, it is your spirits residence in mountains, or in towns, your spirit will meld to it's surroundings, and remember our perception of life is from a brain- a human body part. the spirit does not perceive a town and people how we do, it perceives it as it feels them all within itself, it is one with them. that is the after life and to people who could not know what a spirit percieves, they said it is amazing and wonferful without limits.

i do think there is likely an afterlife. but the reason the piscean age put all the focus onto it, is because they see the end, their whole perception is based on what is to come, therefore if they were to glorify anything, it would definitely be the end, it's all they can possibly percieve, is the end, that's what a mutable sign sees.

so it's all based on truth. and imagination, i mean we dont know really from our brain stand point how it's gonna be like when we die, and we can say that it is amazing. it is an afterlife.