posted December 24, 2016 03:49 PM            

For someone to get christmas presents, really they are "putting an end" to a need. Putting an end to things.

First of all, its mutable just to celebrate. A fixed sign should celebrate all the time, but a mutable sign will go out of their way to "make this a special celebration"

They "envision what they think they should achieve, they pre-envision it, and then they try to achieve that what they had pre-envisioned" so in a way they see the future.

Is it strange I have a first house sun, (very cardinal, although a bit different than aries, but it's still aries energy, as a matter of fact)

So i am quite cardinal IMO, so it must not be a coincedence that I never think about the future, in fact i always envision the past. I think about how life evolved, the START, i can even imagine how life came into existence, from particles reacting. I think back so far, i even think back to how the universe began! I never think about the future, EVER! And I am highly fixed and cardinal. Natally- next to no mutability, just 1 pisces, and neptune/uranus in 12th. That's it, and when you consider the size of those bodies in relation to jupiter, saturn, sun, it is not much. In comparison.

So I think cardinal is stuck to the beginning, the past. Mutable is the end, they see the end, then they try to achieve it (mission accomplished), and i dont know about fixed.

posted December 24, 2016 05:38 PM            

My husband and I are a Uranian couple.

posted December 24, 2016 07:18 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
But why celebrate it, there is no point. Besides retaining status quo, which is fine, for a few more years then in 15 years everyone will stop. That's my prediction.

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Maybe if you're a Christian there is a point? ^^;

Granted, Christians are supposed to celebrate Christ's birth every day, and the holiday is super commercialized, but you don't have to participate in that fashion. It's simply intended to be a day to focus on that aspect of the faith.

Christian or not however, perhaps you do so because you genuinely express love through gift-giving, you use it as an excuse to see family and you like to eat good food?

I don't know anyone who celebrates Christmas, because they feel it's the thing to do. In my experience, those who aren't interested simply don't.

posted December 24, 2016 08:55 PM            

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Originally posted by vertiver:
I always avoid saying "Merry Christmas" and just giving a blanketed statement of "happy holidays."..

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Its tricky.....

I say Happy Holidays about 60% of the time,
the remaining 40% is if I encounter the older generations.

The older traditional generation will be offended if I said Happy Holidays, while the "Millennials" and out of political correctness it makes better sense to say happy holidays.

So I try to please both new and old generations as its best to avoid an argument over Christmas.

You can generally tell what they expect to hear.

Anyway, back to the topic.

My Parents are both Cancers, so they have a strong sense of family and tradition.

But, I don't really celebrate it with them or would rather do other things without spending time with family...I've never really felt that they've let me think and learn as an individual which is the worst thing to do to a mercurial gemini such as myself.

If I had gone to med school which is something my parents would have never let me do.

I think I would be alot happier being the lone doctor working at the hospital during Christmas.

At least your in charge, you know what your doing and you have the opportunity to make a patients day on Christmas at the hospital

Of course my parents don't think that way, but I do.

So I don't have much interest in spending time with them.

posted December 25, 2016 12:03 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
We just moved into the fixed age, yet mindless people keep trying to uphold old ways of being, being that matched the time, but no longer do.

For someone to get christmas presents, really they are "putting an end" to a need. Putting an end to things.

First of all, its mutable just to celebrate. A fixed sign should celebrate all the time, but a mutable sign will go out of their way to "make this a special celebration."

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I have excellent memories of past Christmases with my family and extendeds. All my grandparents are dead now, and most of the old aunts and uncles. I've been estranged from my children and family for decades.

My grandparents had many siblings... and they genuinely loved each other's company.

My grandmother (paternal, scorpio) was oldest of 9 children. My grandfather (paternal, Taurus) was in a blended family of 24 children (12 + 12, two widows married). Thanksgiving and Christmas were sooo large they began to have to rent a banquet hall.

The air was filled with music. Vocal and piano talent. Decorations were sooo pretty, so Beautiful. Gifts! haha. The boxes were wrapped and arranged.

Food! omg... Canadian meat pies! (my ancestry). Turkey, potatoes. Vegetables they had canned themselves at the end of summer. My grandmother and aunt used to win ribbons in cooking contests. Fruit pies. All kinds of baking. The smell of fresh coffee brewing.

Lots of drinking too! High balls, with Canadian whiskey, of course!

I loved the decorations.... and especially the Christmas Trees. Lights were sooo Beautiful. The scent of fresh trees made the air feel more oxygenated. ... Tiny little lit church-town display, little carolers, on a piece of fluffy sparkly glitter white cloth. The light inside the church illuminated small faux stained-glass windows.

I used to crawl under the tree, and lay down on my back, looking straight up the trunk of that tree.... examining how all the branches connected. ... The glow of the lights when the rest of the room was dim.

Christmas Caroling!!!! omg. My immediate family would sing 4 part acapella harmonies ... Well, at least 3-parts! We'd sing from little booklets, beginning with the first song, singing every single stanza. On the next to the last verse, we'd sing it on doot! Doot do-do-doot, then full voice on the last. The inside of my head had a soft satisfying feeling, after all that vocalization. ... yeah, it was good.

Gift giving. I took great care in the gifts I'd choose for each member. I'd watch their faces as they opened it, and would feel sooo pleased when I saw I had chosen well.

Watching the kiddies play with boxes and wrappings was fun too.

At the big Christmas parties my grands would throw, Santa Claus would visit in full gear! He had a big bag with wrapped toys for each child. All the grands would sit in folding chairs around the tree, and our name would be called out, and we'd have to cross over (in front of all) to receive our gift from Santa.

Memories are MADE. ... Cultivated. Passed down to relish and treasure. Stories! Lots of stories of Christmases past. Ornaments that would get passed down to generations.

I was so glad my family was 'into' Christmas, and monthly gatherings. Even weekly for a while.... Every Sunday after Mass, going to my Scorpio Grandma's for Celery Soup! My favorite!

Big family meals around a table... so much sharing. That's what makes rich. The Remembering.

I don't consider myself as mindless. Even though I don't have anyone to share Christmases with anymore, I still make the effort to decorate (somewhat) for myself. Little token things. It pleases my innerChild who still remembers and appreciates the "shiny" things.

And yes! ... I have a very mutable chart. And I Believe in Celebrating people. Making them feel 'special' and not really forgotten, as often as I can remember to.

On the streets... Seems that Christmas (inclusive to me of ALL celebrations) makes people happy inside... Or maybe, I just happen to meet eyes with those, with a knowing glance, and to tell their deep self, Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays.

It Can Make A Difference...

25th of December!!! Merry Day?... to you all!

Merry Christmas, Hypatia! Enjoyed your comment.

posted December 25, 2016 12:41 AM            

you experience reality, and then find out what god is

reading a book telling you to put salt on your table cloth and whipe your face 3 times per day

no,

posted December 25, 2016 12:48 AM            

on a higher level they are when they do it

posted December 25, 2016 01:38 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
i think if anyone wants to get closer to god, you dont read a book

you experience reality, and then find out what god is

reading a book telling you to put salt on your table cloth and whipe your face 3 times per day

no,

experience god, then you'll know god, if he is real, then there's nothing to fear

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posted December 25, 2016 01:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
We have a lot of Christmas traditions without technically celebrating Christmas. It really is more like "Happy Holidays" in our house.

My husband and I are a Uranian couple.

I think it's Uranian to not do what everyone else is doing.

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posted December 25, 2016 02:01 AM            

That been said I would not get upset or feel offended or not included if someone told me "Happy Hanukkah" instead of "Merry Christmas" lol. People should be able to express themselves naturally without walking on egg shells about a holiday they are use to celebrating, people should not feel so easily offended.

posted December 25, 2016 02:08 AM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
Its tricky.....

I say Happy Holidays about 60% of the time,
the remaining 40% is if I encounter the older generations.

The older traditional generation will be offended if I said Happy Holidays, while the "Millennials" and out of political correctness it makes better sense to say happy holidays.

So I try to please both new and old generations as its best to avoid an argument over Christmas.

You can generally tell what they expect to hear.

Anyway, back to the topic.

My Parents are both Cancers, so they have a strong sense of family and tradition.

But, I don't really celebrate it with them or would rather do other things without spending time with family...I've never really felt that they've let me think and learn as an individual which is the worst thing to do to a mercurial gemini such as myself.

If I had gone to med school which is something my parents would have never let me do.

I think I would be alot happier being the lone doctor working at the hospital during Christmas.

At least your in charge, you know what your doing and you have the opportunity to make a patients day on Christmas at the hospital

Of course my parents don't think that way, but I do.

So I don't have much interest in spending time with them.

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Gemini Sun,
Capricorn Rising
Aries Moon
Gemini Mercury
Venus Taurus
Mars Cancer

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posted December 25, 2016 02:58 AM            

either way i dont care, a reflection of current moment is a reflection of eternity; there will always be life, even right now i am reflection of eternity, if i am alive now, then i am alive forever, if there is just one more moment in existence 1 billion years from now, with another person, similar to myself enjoying life, then that means life is forever, and i dont have to be that person for it to be, for someone else will be, and that is a reflection of life itself, they will be them , and alive, and they will be a reflection of that current reality, and always life will be there, reflecting reality and "being" and co existing