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Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted January 11, 2017 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find this placement very frustrating to deal with. I got all kinds of people in my life telling me not to do something because of the consequences. People around me always feel the need to "correct" me whenever I attempt to make a big decision of my own. It really frustrates me because I want to be able to make a decision for myself without feeling bad about it. My decisions never seem to please anyone. I know it should not matter because it's not other people's lives, but it's just hard not to feel like a disappointment to those who are close to you.

I am in debt because my mother decided it was better for me to go to university right away after graduating even though I didn't know what I wanted to get into. I am also in debt because my father decided it was better for me to live with him than live by myself in Ottawa before he kicked me out months later. Now, my boyfriend thinks it's better for me to stay at my job as tech support than try out a new job doing sales because of the stable pay.

I feel like I am going insane. Every single time I want to do something, I always end up not doing it because I fear disappointing those who are close to me. It doesn't even make any sense.

I went to look at my chart for any indicator of this and I found a big one.

I have Mars in Libra opposing my Saturn in Aries.

It totally makes a lot of sense to me now looking at my chart. Saturn in Aries is in its fall. Many people who have this may feel that taking a big bright leap into the unknown is a mistake. We don't trust ourselves enough to try something new. We don't believe in ourselves that we can overcome any obstacle, any consequence. This tendency becomes even worse with an affliction from other planets.

The opposition between my Mars and Saturn perfectly describe my situation. I don't always get to go for what I want because I feel like I have to wait for approval from another person. I also would rather not cause an argument, so I choose to stick with somebody else's decision for me. This doesn't help me in the long run because I end up feeling resentful and not knowing what I really want anymore.

I am sure it manifests differently with the other hard aspects. I am also sure the sign and house placement influences how the aspect manifests in the native's life.

All I can say is that this is not the best placement to have. It's plain terrible. I wish I could learn Saturn's lesson faster, but obviously that's not gonna happen anytime soon. I guess I'm stuck. I guess we're all stuck.


Sorry for the rant. Just needed to get that out of my system.
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Moon in Cancer (1st house)
Mercury in Virgo (3rd house conj.)
Venus in Virgo (3rd house)
Mars in Libra (5th house)

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Electro DGX
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posted January 12, 2017 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like that the fact that you have Mars in Libra only contributes to the issues you're having, mainly because Mars is also in detriment in Libra. You are so concerned with trying to please others that you are sacrificing yourself in order to please others, and in turn your life is becoming harder because Saturn in Aries doesn't want that.

As a Saturn in Aries individual on the 27th degree of Aries conjunct the DSC, I can't say that I'm facing the same issues entirely. It is also opposing my Mars, but my Mars sits in Scorpio on my Ascendant, and so often when people try to correct me I get angry and snap at them in order to assert my dominance. Often with this Saturn placement I feel like people can often try to control me and what I am doing, and I will break free from that and break away from people as a result.

I hate it when people act like I don't know what I'm doing; it aggravates me to the extremes. Instead of trying to please them though, I usually become snappy and will break away from them for a while in order to stabilize myself. I've learned to become more expressive of my anger overtime as not expressing my anger in the courtesy of others is more harmful to me than getting angry with the person and stating my feelings.

I think with you your Libra Mars makes it much more difficult for you to cultivate that Marsian energy required to deal with these situations, making things more difficult overall.

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Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted January 12, 2017 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Electro DGX

That is a very interesting take on this subject. I do agree a lot of it is due to my Mars being in Libra as well.

Thank you for waking me up today. I was literally almost ready to cancel my upcoming employment at the marketing firm when I read this. Reminds me I need to do things for myself.

Btw, I have always wondered how out-of-modality squares/oppositions work with each other since the energies are most likely gonna be different. Obviously, how you deal with your Mars-Saturn opposition is very different from me or others who have it in the same modality as mine. I always thought the energies would be much easier to handle. I guess you still have the frustration that comes with the opposition.

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Electro DGX
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posted January 12, 2017 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
@Electro DGX

That is a very interesting take on this subject. I do agree a lot of it is due to my Mars being in Libra as well.

Thank you for waking me up today. I was literally almost ready to cancel my upcoming employment at the marketing firm when I read this. Reminds me I need to do things for myself.

Btw, I have always wondered how out-of-modality squares/oppositions work with each other since the energies are most likely gonna be different. Obviously, how you deal with your Mars-Saturn opposition is very different from me or others who have it in the same modality as mine. I always thought the energies would be much easier to handle. I guess you still have the frustration that comes with the opposition.


I would definitely say that the energies are much easier for me to handle since I have Mars in a powerful position already, and since my Mars is much stronger than most (on Asc with lots of aspects), it represents why I react so differently to this struggle.

There is always going to be a struggle no matter if the planets are in different nodalities or not. If it is an opposition or square, it will be difficult to deal with. I would say that the different nodalities though alter this energy significantly and make dealing with the struggle indicated quite strange. I also have a dissociate square between my Mercury and Saturn, with my Aries Saturn and Aquarius Mercury. I can still feel the effects of the square, but I would say that it is much easier for me to deal with and get over due to the sign placements of the planets being very harmonious.

Glad I was able to help you out. This opposition isn't an easy one because of how different and conflicting these two planets are. Even a Mars-Saturn conjunction can be problematic, but learning how to utilize it will most definitely be helpful in making one progress forward.

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apollo6284
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posted January 12, 2017 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for apollo6284     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, couldn't have said it better myself, Solar_Leo_Queen! Have the same placements as well for saturn/mars too. On top of that, they're involved in a T-square with Neptune and Sun as well :P

Seems the only way to deal with these positions is to cultivate that inner voice and listening to it, not other people's voices. Living life according to how one wants to live it. Maybe not everyone will get the particular decision right away, but the most important thing is personal happiness.

Does anyone also know if Saturn confers a delayed reaction from others, in this scenario, their approval to one's decisions?

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Faith
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posted January 15, 2017 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have he same placements but I clicked here because my sister does.

She has Aries Saturn, Libra Mars, Cancer stellium.

After reading what you wrote I feel like most people are in the same situation: facing pressure from parents and all of society to get a four-year university degree, even though it means taking on massive debt in some cases. And then gearing all of your decisions around the need for money, to pay back that debt. Your own happiness doesn't matter too much in this scheme. You are just supposed to be a stressed-out and dissatisfied part of The System, like everyone else. :-/

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