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Topic: Michelle Obama's Moon Sign
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the89freespirit
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posted January 24, 2017 11:15 PM
  
@ theunknown,When you explain it like that, it does make sense. It seems like Aquarius Moon would be a great fit for her. But, I do still sense something watery. Did someone say she had Venus in Pisces? That could be it. ------------------
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Faith
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posted January 24, 2017 11:34 PM
In those videos I posted, it really is clear how different Cap sun/Pisces moon is from Cap sun/Aqua moon. Almost like two different sun signs.And I didn't hand-select videos to conform to stereotypes. I usually just chose the first one I clicked on. I think any astrologer could listen to voice tracks of Diane Keaton and Sissy Spacek, without even knowing who they were, and correctly identify who is an Aqua moon, who is a Pisces moon. Ditto for any other pair of Aqua versus Pisces moons. I think anyone could be quickly trained to tell the difference just by hearing the different voices. Generally speaking: Aqua moons speak faster with more of a range; laugh harder and more often; say shocking things as you would expect. It seems like they are trying to stir things up and have a good time. On the contrary, Pisces moons are slow and rhythmic. It's as if their first, main objective is to try to calm everything down around them. Sometimes they tell stories that wind around and keep the interviewer in suspense...there is no way to interrupt because the interviewer has no idea where it's going. That's one way to prevent tension and talking over each other. I think Michelle is probably Aqua, but near enough to the cusp to modulate it. ETA: "Did someone say she had Venus in Pisces? That could be it." Yes, and her moon is conjunct it, more or less. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted January 25, 2017 12:33 AM
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Originally posted by headintheclouds91:
Yes, could come from that, but he has a strong soft energy to him so i feel its more than that. And what you said about pisces moons and their voices and how they tend to communicate i can see in him.
Venturing out of Capricorn... This is Paul Newman (Pisces moon, if anyone doesn't know) giving an interview
(@ 0:55)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os9GRSABbnI It's more obvious as the interview goes on...his voice is usually low, punctuated with a lot of pauses. Bill Gates:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItFchh-vPgY Just more lively. There isn't that baseline pattern of the rumbling, low voice and pauses that Pisces moons do. Hillary Clinton doesn't seem like a Pisces moon, much of the time. But she also has these traits, and when she's relaxed, it shows.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukx-FzJDbYo Her Scorpio Mercury on the SN square Leo Saturn, I think that accounts for some of her harshness at times. At other times I think she is so obviously a Pisces moon (like when she is very suddenly on the verge of tears.) --- Kanye West, when he is calm, does act like a "typical" Pisces moon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDRbS0X-g_A --- Hope it doesn't look like I'm trying too hard to prove a point. I actually keep meaning to do these video studies of every single placement. So far I've only done Aries Mercury and this thread. I keep meaning to finish all the Mercuries, and then do the moons. I just believe placements can be detected with a good level of accuracy, if we play close enough attention. IP: Logged |
the89freespirit
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posted January 25, 2017 12:38 AM
Faith, this is all very insightful! It's really food for thought. Good work.  ------------------
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Faith
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posted January 25, 2017 12:42 AM
Ah thanks. I'm just curious!IP: Logged |
headintheclouds91
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posted January 25, 2017 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Bill Gates:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItFchh-vPgY Just more lively. There isn't that baseline pattern of the rumbling, low voice and pauses that Pisces moons do.
Yes, he seemed more lively here but he does have a Libra mercury conj mars though. In other interviews of him he comes across kinda insecure and shy even when he tries not to be. And he also doesn`t like to talk about how rich he is and brag about how successful he is.One time he was asked if he considered himself successful and he got very uncomfortable and shy answering that. And also when i see him and Steve jobs who is an aries moon if i remember correctly i find them to act very different. Jobs acts and speaks more confidently and his
eyes are less soft than Gates imo. Plus his wife of many years is a water stellium. And since the moon can often describe how the mother is too his mom seemed very Piscean to me. She would often remind him to help the poor and do good with his wealth and i think it`s because of her that he got into humanitarian work.
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theunknown
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posted January 25, 2017 01:24 AM
It is possible that her moon might not be on the cusp but squaring Neptune in Scorpio. Which give an ethereal vibe.she might also be a Sagittarius rising too, which puts Pisces in 4th. Her background seems very moon-Saturn, having to prove herself and didn't feel she's earned her place until being admitted to law school; parents were loving, always have dinner together. she's very tall and athletic and big on getting the whole nation work out so I'm thinking Sag.
EDIT: I misread Bill Gates to Bill Clinton  Gates is def an Aries moon to me. He dropped out of college. Taurus moon always finish what they start ... and as an Aries moon I can attest to quitting. Gates' mug shot and youth are Arian to me. Steve Jobs has a Virgo asc with a cap Venus and 8th Aries mars so I worldnt be surprised if Jobs was judgmental and had very clear idea of ppl/things he does not like. Jobs also dropped out of college ... they had competitive exchange when they talked to each other.
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Faith
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posted January 25, 2017 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by headintheclouds91:
In other interviews of him he comes across kinda insecure and shy even when he tries not to be.
I've seen some of that but
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85PMSYAguZ8 @3:15 His voice is so prominent and assertive. So is Hillary Clinton's at times, though. Shailene Woodley is another with this combination, Scorpio sun, Pisces moon: @1:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljnv9yZGIuQ Martin Scorsese:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbYiGdinejU Laura Bush:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtNabdDx_mU Johnny Lee Miller:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nnMyc1VwAY Seems to me that all the Scorpio sun/Pisces moons speak faster than Cap sun/Pisces moons. Maybe it's the trine, and the confidence arising from that. But they do have that scratchy quality in the voice and something that sounds like "static" to me. quote:
Originally posted by headintheclouds91:
btw you are doing a good job with your study 👍🏾
Thanks  Don't encourage me, though. These videos can go on and onnnn. 
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polkadotstars
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posted January 25, 2017 10:37 AM
I think she's a Pisces moon. I have a coworker who is a Manager. He's a Cap sun and Aqua moon (Michelle's a Capricorn as well). There have been times his employees had to be let go due to their own performance or because of policy violations. He's held no remorse, only good riddance to them. As a Pisces moon, I feel bad for them because they are losing a job, even if it is due to their own fault. I would imagine Michelle would be more the type to be empathetic towards them rather than waving them goodbye without any empathy. I can see how you'd think she is an Aqua moon, because of her humanitarian side. But I don't see Aqua moons that humanitarian. I usually just see Suns and Risings this way. To me, Aqua moons are more calculated and logistical when it comes to emotions. Towards people they don't like showing their emotions (if any) and they are great at thinking about them logically. A Pisces moon on the other hand are more compassionate and willing to help others. You can see their emotions in their eyes. They're sensitive and they are a sucker for someone who needs help. This seems more like Michelle to me. IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted January 25, 2017 11:43 AM
@Faith, that's a great list!!
I remember your Aries mercury thread. Please take those up again.
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Elysia
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posted January 25, 2017 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
I have a coworker who is a Manager. He's a Cap sun and Aqua moon (Michelle's a Capricorn as well). There have been times his employees had to be let go due to their own performance or because of policy violations. He's held no remorse, only good riddance to them. As a Pisces moon, I feel bad for them because they are losing a job, even if it is due to their own fault. I would imagine Michelle would be more the type to be empathetic towards them rather than waving them goodbye without any empathy. I can see how you'd think she is an Aqua moon, because of her humanitarian side. But I don't see Aqua moons that humanitarian. I usually just see Suns and Risings this way. To me, Aqua moons are more calculated and logistical when it comes to emotions. Towards people they don't like showing their emotions (if any) and they are great at thinking about them logically. A Pisces moon on the other hand are more compassionate and willing to help others. You can see their emotions in their eyes. They're sensitive and they are a sucker for someone who needs help. This seems more like Michelle to me.
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soren
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posted January 25, 2017 01:16 PM
when you are born you adjust to the astro energy, but your brain also takes in the energy 5 minutes after youre born. if you were born with sun in 1st, and exactly 6 minutes later it moved into the 12th, then you are not taking in the sun first house energy, your brain starts taking in sun's energy from the 12th. primary directions thinks that these vital first minutes/hours as the sun arcs are where you take in your progressed chart for life. day for a year thinks that somehow on your 50th day after birth, would be relevant, or that even after 5 days, when you have already rapidly use your brain functions to understand reality, in the first few hours, is equally relevant to your 50th day for a progression. try to think of someone who has never been born, used their brain, or understood anything, how they would feel in the first few minutes, they would see large figurines and start recognize smiles, movements, gentle touches, and on the 50th day they would have experienced that about 8000x as much as their first hours. anywayi used pics and seems much more similar to an aqua moon. but using primary directions, it would be in pisces, it moved into pisces a couple hours after she was born and thus she started taking in energy from a moon that was now in pisces. though the natal is much much stronger, maybe 6x as strong. i noticed my progressed chart (what happened in the heavens an hour or later after my birth, when the sun rotated an hour after i was born into the 12th) i notice that it is very strong change on my being. IP: Logged |
MoonMystic
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posted January 27, 2017 10:21 PM
I have forgotten the formula - I need to investigate this again, but a mother's moon often follows in her children's charts.
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Belage
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posted January 27, 2017 10:50 PM
My bet is on Aquarius moon for her. She already has Venus in Pisces at 0 degree something, I think she has moon conjunct Venus but out of sign. The moon conjunction venus makes for someone who can develop a special rapport with women. There is an electrical and unusual quality to this particular energy she exudes and I think it is due to the moon being in Aqua. Plus her aqua moon would help her resonate with her husband's ascendant. IP: Logged |
PiscesCancerTaurus
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posted January 27, 2017 11:24 PM
Throwing my two cents in here. I really feel like she is an Aqua moon with a Leo rising. IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted January 28, 2017 09:15 PM
I am a cap sun aqua moon. She is too for sure! I just recognise that energy, off the tv of course ))) but stillllIP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted January 28, 2017 09:16 PM
The only reason we are now wondering whether it could be in Pisces is her Pisces Venus conjunct Moon. That's what's fooling us.IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted January 29, 2017 02:17 AM
Her synastry is saying Aquarius. However, her patterns are saying Pisces. 
All I need a shots of her in sequins.
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soren
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posted January 29, 2017 03:49 AM
like i said many times, i almost feel more like a pisces because my 12th house sun in progressed. it's quite strong. her moon in pisces in progressed will take on a light shade of a full moon on pisces. and no i am not talking about dayperyear prog. primary. takes in the first to several hours of life, brain meldings. tune into those brain parts. IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted January 29, 2017 12:11 PM
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and no i am not talking about dayperyear prog. primary. takes in the first to several hours of life, brain meldings. tune into those brain parts.
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soren
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posted January 29, 2017 12:37 PM
theres 2 main types of progressions. the most common is day for a year. the other one that no one uses for some reason, is called "primary directions" which has your p. chart as the first several hours of life. IP: Logged |
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posted January 29, 2017 12:50 PM
Aquarius. IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted January 29, 2017 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by soren:
theres 2 main types of progressions. the most common is day for a year. the other one that no one uses for some reason, is called "primary directions" which has your p. chart as the first several hours of life.
The reason primary directions are not used as often as other methods is because you need to have exact time of birth (to a minute). Otherwise the timing of predictions will be wrong. IP: Logged |
soren
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posted January 29, 2017 02:28 PM
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The reason primary directions are not used as often as other methods is because you need to have exact time of birth (to a minute). Otherwise the timing of predictions will be wrong.
true. i thought a lot of people on here knew it pretty close. also, 20 minutes in real life is only a progression of 5 degrees, so you can still likely find out what house your p. sun is in. for me, it's pretty major, cause my sun progressed 2hours after birth into the 12th house. and then my brain started adapting to a 12th house sun now, for 2 hours IRL. and now as i am 20+ years old it shifted into the 12th, i am tuning into those brain lockings as i get older. now i am tuning into those brain lockings that adjusted to a 12th house sun. IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted February 01, 2017 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
I am a cap sun aqua moon. She is too for sure! I just recognise that energy, off the tv of course ))) but stillll
Hmm..
Not to go off topic here, but I've always wondered.. If my birth place was even right. My parents lied about/were majorly unclear about a lot of big things, so it's actually pretty plausible.
Things would make a lot more *sense* with another possible birthplace/time. I wish there was a better way to find out than my hunches. IP: Logged |
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