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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted January 24, 2017 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering whether it's in Aquarius or Pisces.

What do you reckon?

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posted January 24, 2017 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
I was wondering whether it's in Aquarius or Pisces.

What do you reckon?


I think its Aqua... I am a pisces moon myself, so thats just my gut instinct xD She seems far too emotional stabile to be a pisces moon lol :P

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posted January 24, 2017 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I think its Aqua... I am a pisces moon myself, so thats just my gut instinct xD She seems far too emotional stabile to be a pisces moon lol :P

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posted January 24, 2017 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the input!

I am a Pisces moon myself and I was thinking how she seems like a pisces moon. Some sort of innocence about her. Although she has a pisces venus and Barack's sun could be opposite her moon.

I too agree that she seems very stable, but again, that could be her capricorn sun! And she doesn't show much independence/quirkiness for an aqua moon either!

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posted January 24, 2017 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I think its Aqua... I am a pisces moon myself, so thats just my gut instinct xD She seems far too emotional stabile to be a pisces moon lol :P

Not necessarily. I have a Virgo Moon and Cancer Sun and I have been told i am very sensitive. I think her emotional stability comes also from her Cappy Sun.

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posted January 24, 2017 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My bet is that it is in Aqua. Just a hunch

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posted January 24, 2017 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Cap sun, Pisces moon, and I know others with this combination. Our sensitivity is obvious. If she's a Pisces moon, I'm surprised.

I could never appear that indomitable in public, the way she does.

Ricky Martin is a Cap sun, Pisces moon, if you want to look at his demeanor for comparison. So was Elvis. Both are shy, soft-spoken, and deferential in interviews.

She isn't. She's outgoing, strong, and almost a bit haughty, like an Aqua moon. (My best friend is an Aqua moon and describes herself as "haughty" even though she is actually the most down-to-earth person ever...just like Michelle.)

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posted January 24, 2017 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A little off topic, James Bay is either Aqua or Pisces moon. I think CLEARLY Pisces, no doubt about it.

I cannot fathom him as an Aqua moon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsPq9mzFNGY

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posted January 24, 2017 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hear you Faith; at this point it's personally 50-50 for me. I closely know aqua moons too and I agree with your description of them. It's interesting that I don't see Michelle like that at all! I sense that she's very shy and feels/acts kind of awkward in public.

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posted January 24, 2017 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Feels like Aqua.

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posted January 24, 2017 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alright changing my mind a bit (typical for a pisces moon I guess hehe). I now think aqua shows more inher eyes than pisces. Especially comparing with cap celebs with pisces moon as Faith mentioned.

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posted January 24, 2017 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Faith
I see Pisces too .But I see a lot of Mars in Gemini come through strongly.He thinks a lot before he answers and those hand gestures?

Maybe Mercury is also on the Asc. But that is what I see.

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posted January 24, 2017 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Not necessarily. I have a Virgo Moon and Cancer Sun and I have been told i am very sensitive. I think her emotional stability comes also from her Cappy Sun.

Could also be, but she also seems kinda composed and not at all dreamy, which would really show through with a pisces moon.... and us pisces moons can also be a bit forgetful and subtle, something that I dont see at all with Michelle Obama... I've never caught her seem anywhere near dreamy, and if you are a pisces moon there is no way you can stay that focused all the time lol :P

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posted January 24, 2017 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Aries 23

@girlwithrainysoul

I'm watching Ricky Martin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJS74Gf3w64

Maybe "shy" is the wrong word? But there are a lot of quiet pauses, sometimes he's whispering, and there's a kind of rumbling quality in his voice (a low "mmm hmmm" is something a lot of Pisces moon men do, even Kanye West)....averted gazes.

And here's Elvis, five seconds of this shows you what I mean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HnTcIbtVns

I'm louder (Gemini Mars quincunx my sun almost exactly) but still more like that than Michelle.

Here's Michelle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVluBbhM1wE

Definitely some Pisces traits. Her moon is conjunct Pisces Venus either way. But her voice seems more straightforward to me. @ 1:55 "The bad stuff, I just don't hold on to." edit - I think we tend to hold on to bad stuff. Or maybe that's just me with my 8H moon.

I could be totally wrong, though. I've been wrong about this kind of thing before.

I don't like putting too fine a point on it, but I aspire to being able to recognize moon signs with a good level of accuracy. So I have to generalize a bit.

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posted January 24, 2017 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm surprised we still don't have her birth time after all these years.

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posted January 24, 2017 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish we knew Tupacs birthtime

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posted January 24, 2017 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for headintheclouds91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Our sensitivity is obvious. If she's a Pisces moon, I'm surprised.



Exactly 👍🏾 That is why i have a hard time believing that Bill gates is supposedly an aries moon. Haha he just doesn`t seem arian to me at all. Even when he tries to be all macho and assertive its still something really soft, shy and sweet about him. Not only that but if he has an aries moon his moon will also be opposite his mars which would give him a double dose of arian energy, lol. Not buying it 👎🏾 😆

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posted January 24, 2017 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kewf1988     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquarius, which could make her Moon opposite Barack's Sun or on his ascendant. Some of the stuff she did during her husband's presidency reeks of Aquarius Moon.

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posted January 24, 2017 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@headintheclouds

I always attribute that to him being a Sheep...but who knows, maybe you're right.

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Pardon me, decided to do a full study on this. It's my own sun/moon combo so I'm extra curious...not expecting anyone to check these.

Everyone changes according to circumstance, but in a relaxed setting, just sitting with someone on a talk show...I think Cap sun/Pisces moon is pretty subdued, deliberate, and whispery (for lack of a better word.)

Michael Stipe of REM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIuMxO99QKM

Martin Luther King Jr:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDNV8dxYe-g

John Denver (@2:50)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFBzLC2EM_w

Ben Kingsley (@0:50)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U9HxG0DJ00

Jason Behr:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0F_EF2cwT8

There's a low, scratchy quality in the voice with all these men, words sometimes tapering off or lilting in an almost feminine way. As for women, it's similar:

Patti Smith (@ 0:48)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmut3Mo3otQ

Ava Gardner has a much more feminine voice but I can't find an interview example. Maybe she didn't give interviews, she was pretty reclusive.

Helena Christensen is somewhere in between:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ2Mr4emoZI

So is Marianne Faithfull (who sounds a lot like Ava Garner):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZBUGo2YaJg

Sissy Spacek (@3:25)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUgcKn4YxyE

Emily Watson (@1:25)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Dir5qhpwQ

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Contrast this with Cap sun, Aqua moon. I think the difference is obvious:

Muhammad Ali, quiet at first but gets louder and louder:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFJA0aeeUKE

Denzel Washington (0:50)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrEE-j5Fm1g

Cuba Gooding Jr:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_geG0h_rOLo

Cody Simpson:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q57dpcfaLoQ

Val Kilmer seems like a Pisces moon, though it's impossible:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBl1ITPbssw

Maybe because he has a 12H sun exactly conjunct Saturn; Cap ASC on sun-moon midpoint. Moon square Neptune. Different than other Aqua moons. Edit: And after watching that more, I think I can see the Aqua moon. He's centered within himself like an Aqua moon.

Diane Keaton:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZGM8I2JJCg

Nina Dobrev (@0:53)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWMPB_jb2Bg

Julia Ormond (@23:40)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMPDkzFV8ik

Yeah all things considered, I do think Michelle is an Aqua moon.

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posted January 24, 2017 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^singer Jojo is another example. Very thoughtful and articulate. Moon second place from the sun indicates someone highly in tune with their self worth and values. also the Ibama relationship seems very Aquarius. Obama mentions that his wife has been his best friend. Pisces moon tends to be less independent or forceful

Bill Clinton is definitely a Taurus moon. An Aries would be Phillippe Petit since its double fire. Bill Clinton also has the habit of speaking very slowly and pausing a lot.
Bernie is an obvious Aries moon despite the Virgo sun. He couldn't wait to scream ... jthe energy of Aries moon is hard to miss

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posted January 24, 2017 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JoJo - Cap sun, Aqua moon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M1FEw_cJAk

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posted January 24, 2017 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gemini30:
I'm surprised we still don't have her birth time after all these years.

That may be a vote for Pisces Moon. Pisces is the sign of intense secrets.

Why don't you try using my method? The Moon is most attracted to the Asc. Women, though not all the time, show a preference for moon aspects to their Asc. Conjunctions only.

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posted January 24, 2017 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for headintheclouds91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
@headintheclouds

I always attribute that to him being a Sheep...but who knows, maybe you're right.

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Yes, could come from that, but he has a strong soft energy to him so i feel its more than that. And what you said about pisces moons and their voices and how they tend to communicate i can see in him.

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Hmmm, I'd always believed she was a Pisces Moon but Aquarius Moon makes sense, too. That would make her Moon and Barack's Gemini Moon very compatible. It's very evident in their body language and public appearances that they have that really natural "simpatico" kind of bond that is most evident when two people's Moons are in the same Element.

Also, Barack does have Uranus in the 7th, meaning that the marriage partner is going to have a major Uranus or Aquarius influence.

BUT, on the other hand, I think Pisces Moons are very hard to pin down. Not all of them are going to be soft-spoken, just like not all Scorpio Moons are going to be brooding. These two Moon signs are probably the best at "hiding." As a fellow Water Moon, I know that you have to spot us in very nonverbal and intuitive ways. It's more so about what we're not saying and the unspoken, subtle energy you're feeling from us. Because the Moon is already Water and when you put it in a Water sign, the person is out of your grasp as soon as you try to figure them out. We're very elusive because of how sensitive/intense/complicated we are. The Moon in Pisces can possibly be the most elusive because they can become whoever they want to become.

So, this could go either way, to me. Besides, I think how a person speaks/projects themselves is more influenced by their Ascendant.

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posted January 24, 2017 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^well I think we're not discussing projecting as much as emoting and the language choices.

Ricky Martin in the video Faith posts is very indicative of someone who seems extroverted, but the way he explains how he ergote his book was very fluid. I'm just listening for content.

St first I thought Michelle is a Pisces moon too, but her stories, her speech sound logical and structured. When Obama lost his first bid in the Senate, she was the one who said maybe he shouldn't pursue politics .... which is an Aquarius response to me. A Pisces moon fired the Di that.

Her speech after Trump's locker talk leaking was evident for how she thinks and react emotionally. She was trying to pinpoint the reason why she felt so upset. But you see Prince for example, air sun, Pisces moon... he's very fluid with his emotional response. Aquarians tend to be rigid. I'm speaking as someone who's close to Pisces moons and have an Aquarius stellium. This need to understand and pinpoint the reason for how things are the ways they are is an Aquarius characteristic. Pisces is much less active and thus less "haughty."

The video of Michelle responding to racism on Oprah (Faith posted) is another one. Instead of empathize he with ppl... I have a dream sorta way, Michelle pinpoints the hatred is reflective of the talkers not of the subject. Cold logic. She's not upset that some ppl called her an angry black woman any more.

I think it can be confusing because Capricorn suns are very subdued and sensitive too.

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