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charlie
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posted January 24, 2017 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This one is for those of you that CANNOT stand, nor tolerate, any type of manipulative or abusive language no matter the good "action".

I am one of those. It doesn't matter if you bake me cakes. Buy me flowers. Clean my toilet or carried my out to the car when I broke my foot. If you cannot control your language other than to put me down and then withdraw your words, when confronted, saying they were "just a joke", I will never respect you.

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Cancer Sun (sq Pluto), Venus, Mercury( sq Pluto)
Cap Moon (sq Pluto)
Leo ASC

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bonsai
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posted January 24, 2017 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonsai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a good question. I'm of the general belief that actions do speak louder than words, but I guess in some situations sometimes what you want to hear is some specific words. For instance, last year I got into a massive fight with a friend (who I'm still seething over) because he was being insensitive about a situation that deeply affected me and my community and he was acting like he knew more than I did about my situation and basically implied that I was irrational and emotional (as well as fellow affected residents). We exchanged some pretty nasty words with one another and I had to stop baiting him because he wouldn't stop talking to me and attacking me.

Anyway, a week later I GUESS he tried to make amends by trying to help me regarding my situation with some actions, but I felt this was not what I really wanted. I didn't need his "help" with the situation. I just needed a listening ear. So in this case, I felt it was more appropriate to hear a simple "I'm sorry". We didn't talk to each other for a few months after that during which time some other bad things happened, which ended up on the news. Now I know for a fact that he follows the news fervently and would have found out what happened, and not once did he contact me to go "Omg I heard about this, and I want to know if you and your community are OK?". I felt this sort of sealed the deal for me. He tried speaking to me a few times in the past few weeks but I have kept my distance and do not wish to maintain contact with him.

So in this case, yeah, I felt words were more meaningful than actions (and actually when thinking about it, his actions indicated someone who didn't care all that much about what I went through).

I'm Leo Sun square Pluto
Moon square Venus and Jupiter, Opposite Neptune and Trine Pluto
My Mars is pretty much unaspected

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Elise3090
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posted January 24, 2017 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elise3090     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is because actions can be controlled by external factors when words not,they are direct from our minds to external world.
Words are more sincere.

I have moon in virgo (ruler is mercury,that is conjunct chiron) square mars, so agressive words can hurt me. I think that a debilitated mercury can make a person more sensitive,mercury/chiron, mercury/moon aspects too. Mercury/pluto is so sensible to real intentions of a word.
Moon has a contribution too.

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Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted January 24, 2017 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the opposite of me. I am a pretty straightforward person. A person can whisper all the beautiful words in my ear and I will not believe A THING they said unless I see literal proof in front of me. A person can tell me they hate me and how kuch they don't want me in their life anymore, and still won't believe it. I don't feel it until I see it. This is how I keep things real in my life. Of course, words will always leave their mark, but actions leave bigger ones.

I have the Mercury-Pluto and Venus-Pluto square too. My Mercury and Venus are in Virgo, though, so I'm not the type to beat around the bush or sugarcoat things.

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Claudine
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posted January 25, 2017 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Claudine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I prefer both
I will ignore smooth speech if there won't be any actions and it was just blah blah blah. But I can't stand disrespectful words and manners directed to me either.
Cancer Sun sq Jupiter in Libra, Scorpio Moon conj Pluto in 5h, Cancer Mercury.

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colorful butterfly
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posted January 26, 2017 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I prefer both but actions speak louder than words. I am a Cancer as well but my moon conjuncts pluto in the 1st in Libra. I am very sensitive to other peoples words but I do know I can have moments in anger where I can fly off at the handle so to speak. Usually I try to take the high road but it has not been beyond me to take the lower one if someone is being rude or disrespectful to me. I never would do such if I don't feel disrespected. Anyone who is constantly putting you down after asking them to stop is more than likely a very toxic person. We all have behaviors we want to be forgiven so if it is a first time or a blue moon encounter I can forgive as I want to be forgiven for my mistakes. Anyone who continues on end doesn't really care for you, as they do not care about your feelings, in my opinion.

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