posted January 25, 2017 06:17 PM            

Astrology is a symbolic language and we absolutely have free rein to explore the similarities, dissimilarities and implications of a given placement when compared/contrasted with another. No aspect exists in isolation; everything is modified by everything else.

All that said, there are important distinctions to make between sign energy and the energy of the corresponding natural house, at least in my mind. They are not exactly the same but they share many qualities and meanings...

I am now considering my 3rd house Moon-Neptune conjuction in light of the Gemini correspondence and am having a little light bulb moment about myself. It's always useful when astrology can enhance or challenge our self concept and bring new elements into the game which we might not have considered. That's what keeps it endlessly fascinating for me...

posted January 25, 2017 07:40 PM            

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Originally posted by @lycat74:
You are literally getting yourself confused. I literally have to google correlated again and this is what I found this definition

Correlated
have a mutual relationship or connection, in which one thing affects or depends on another.
establish a mutual relationship or connection between.

with the first definition specifically "one thing affects or depends" You got to pay attention to the or/OR.

I didn't mention anything about these two planets depending on each other. They exist independently. However these planets affects each other but I don't think they have to depend on each other.

If you wanna argue semantics, definitions and don't like that I use the word correlate we can throw that out. It wouldn't change what I am saying.

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This is an debate for another day. Let's just move on and get back to the topic at hand. If you want to find out why I was frustrated with your use of correlated, check out these examples: http://examples.yourdictionary.com/positive-correlation-examples.html

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You seem to be hung up on me I am saying that I see similarities between Moon in the 3rd House and Mercury in the 3rd House.

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All this time I've been talking about how Mercury in the third isn't related to Moon in Gemini. I never said that Mercury in the third doesn't share similarities to Moon in the third, where did that come from?

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If you are paying attention, I never said or imply that "the manifestation of house placements are the same as sign placements" Similar yes but NOT THE SAME.

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This was to support my argument that Mercury in the third is different from Moon in Gemini. I never implied that you said that they were the same. Are you paying attention?

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Mercury doesn't feel emotions but Mercury communicates emotions through the Moon that feels the emotions.

The Moon feels emotions; but how is emotions felt. Is it just physical? Is it just mental? How do you feel emotions? Is there a standard?

When I feel emotions, it's physical and mental. My emotions are connected to my experiences, relationships (Venus) and words (Mercury) that have been said to me past and present. Coincidentally enough, I have Moon in the 3rd House.

Mercury communicates with the Moon and vice versa. They work together, correlate (the way I am using it means affects/connect).

Lastly there are similarities in everything. To me Mercury in the third house shares characteristics with Moon in Gemini. BTW TO REPEAT MYSELF FOR A THIRD TIME (Electro DGX: WOW THANKS)

Moon and Mercury. They are different & exist independently from each other. They have different meanings, expressions, energies, and purpose. Even so they are different but they correlate because they work together and feed off each other. They don't simply exist singularly even if you can define them separately.

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You can't isolate specific placements and then state that they are similar because they all work together. Of course each of the planets work together, I know that, but the Moon and Mercury have different base functionalities. They do work together in the makeup of the entire natal chart, but you can't use that to support the idea that Mercury in the third is similar to Moon in Gemini just because they work together. When you ISOLATE the Moon and Mercury, they are different things. This is why I think that Moon in Gemini and Mercury in the third are NOT similar. They deal with different things and can only be put together when both are in the chart in order to explain the entire makeup.

If you still disagree with what I am saying, then let's just agree to disagree. I'm not going to waste my time explaining this to you anymore.

posted January 25, 2017 07:44 PM            

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Originally posted by meyray:

I completely agree with all of what Electro DGX said. A single Mercury placement and a single Moon placement are not comparable.

In fact no planets become interchangeable just because they share a link though sign or house rulership. It sounds a little bit like a fallacy (affirming the consequent) And trying to force an argument for interchangeability between planets by philosophizing about their qualities is just hot air.

To be completely honest I wish people would stop trying to compare placements all together. It oversimplifies things and creates misconceptions. Every placement is valid by and for itself and is not disposable with another.

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posted January 25, 2017 08:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
You can't isolate specific placements and then state that they are similar because they all work together. Of course each of the planets work together, I know that, but the Moon and Mercury have different base functionalities. They do work together in the makeup of the entire natal chart, but you can't use that to support the idea that Mercury in the third is similar to Moon in Gemini just because they work together. When you ISOLATE the Moon and Mercury, they are different things. This is why I think that Moon in Gemini and Mercury in the third are NOT similar. They deal with different things and can only be put together when both are in the chart in order to explain the entire makeup.

If you still disagree with what I am saying, then let's just agree to disagree. I'm not going to waste my time explaining this to you anymore.

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posted January 25, 2017 09:49 PM            

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Originally posted by @lycat74:
At this point I don't care anymore; I'm eating dinner. Let's just agree to disagree. Good debate, no hard feelings.

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That's cool with me

posted January 26, 2017 02:50 AM            

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Originally posted by VirgoPILL:
as a 3rd house moon this thread is confusing the hell out of me

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posted January 26, 2017 03:47 AM            

OP if you can give specific and detailed examples of how they're all related it might help