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MoonMystic
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posted January 25, 2017 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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After I researched a bit and pondered upon my thoughts , the layer of the lightest margin, the feather if you will, resides or can be seen right within the helio format? That portion of us that is what is a mere glimmer within.

I'm open to discuss this rather curious concept.

Can one deduce that the personalities (spirits/non flesh)in which might interact with, might show strongly in helio synastry?

Personally,
I have studied many synastries (long past deceased) with my chart. Ones of public personas that resonate with me in strong ways. In helio I see strong/tight orbs with many. One 0° between Mister Xs Saturn and my Venus. He has other connectors in the read as well. I found myself completely mesmerized with particular people of the past couple centuries, I looked closely and with each one, helio connecting in intriguing manners. There are many living individals I get far less connections to (using helio). explains why we might be drawn more to even long ago people. If we go deeper, the energy never dies. Perchance we see how these spirits/energies speak to us, even influence us. Time isn't after all concrete to those not in flesh. Time is linear, thus they exist 'where' and not 'when'. I do have a strong pineal gland so my receiver may be strong in communicating with 'them'. Sorry if I seem to ramble.
Any one have thoughts or knowledge on this, please reply.

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Faith
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posted January 26, 2017 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love this topic but also want to sit on the sidelines.

I don't know what to make of my helio chart. Libra Venus conjunct Pluto, square Cancer Mars. It's hard for me to choke this down and try to identify with it. So very different from my tropical chart with its congenial, unafflicted Sag Venus.

Nevertheless I must admit, those degrees come up repeatedly in synastry. My husband's moon is conjunct my helio Venus-Pluto, his ASC conjunct my helio Mars.

My husband and my one significant ex both have Venus conjunct Pluto in their tropical charts...I seem to be drawn to it like moth to flame.

Also my nodes are ruled by Venus and Pluto respectively, so it's interesting seeing them fused together in helio.


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posted January 26, 2017 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:

My husband and my one significant ex both have Venus conjunct Pluto in their tropical charts...I seem to be drawn to it like moth to flame.


Maybe the helio - at least in this particular case - is a template, and you seek out the earthly Manifestation of this, because you resonate with it on some Level, even if hard to grasp?


my helio has a minor triangle of Mars on 22 Scorpio trine Jupiter on 22 Pisces sextile Venus on almost 20 Cap.

I am certainly drawn to
a) men with strong Venus-Mars-Jupiter aspect, at least two of them natally

b) synastries with These aspects.

currently I have in helio a conjunction of pr Venus and pr Jupiter on 26 Pisces. Yeah reminds us of something, doesn`t it?

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posted January 26, 2017 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Maybe the helio - at least in this particular case - is a template, and you seek out the earthly Manifestation of this, because you resonate with it on some Level, even if hard to grasp?

I guess? But it could be other things. But there's no denying that my ex has Venus conjunct Pluto in Libra, more or less conjunct mine in helio, and you know how I've been about that. Venus-Pluto-y.

Also, pretty sure my college boyfriend and I have Venus-Pluto in composite, on my helio conjunction. I need to double check.

EDIT: Yup, we did have that. Really, really looks like fate, and there were a few times when Fate seemed to step in and push us together, extraordinarily and freakishly.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
my helio has a minor triangle of Mars on 22 Scorpio trine Jupiter on 22 Pisces sextile Venus on almost 20 Cap.

I am certainly drawn to
a) men with strong Venus-Mars-Jupiter aspect, at least two of them natally

b) synastries with These aspects.

currently I have in helio a conjunction of pr Venus and pr Jupiter on 26 Pisces. Yeah reminds us of something, doesn`t it?


All so interesting. I really don't like my helio chart but I do like when things add up and seem true. So I guess I will check my pr helio charts and see what I see, as well.

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posted January 26, 2017 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My progressed helio chart:

Honestly with a natal, though wide, Venus-Neptune conjunction, I think I'm quite familiar with the symptoms, and I haven't been noticeably affected in a Venus-Neptune way.

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posted January 26, 2017 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would it mean to you being affected in a Venus-Neptune-way?

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posted January 26, 2017 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Watching Pride and Prejudice, or lengthy parts of it, almost every day for a full year, because Colin Firth is so hot...does that count?

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posted January 26, 2017 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here he is blinking sadly, in a top hat:

Maybe I should get back into this, now that I see my pr helio chart....carpe diem.

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posted January 26, 2017 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Okay I'm done...sorry...but to demonstrate my extremes, I need to be extreme, a little.

I forget which year(s) I was on that Pride and Prejudice kick...2005 maybe.

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posted January 26, 2017 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice. Not sure this is ALL Venus-Neptune is about though.


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posted January 26, 2017 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There was just a kind of spell that I was under, that made me lose some of my marbles. Well I wonder if Venus-Neptune means, there is a combination of the spiritual with the romantic, so it doesn't seem merely romantic, but almost a religious awakening

Mars-Neptune functions in a similar way, right? You learn the reality of telepathy and subtle teleportation in a Mars context?

But I'm sorry about going off topic.

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posted January 27, 2017 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, also the high point of idealism.

mars-Neptune will have some things in common but also being different from Venus/Neptune.

Mostly this might diffuse the way of acting, sublimating anger or passion in some instances.

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