posted January 31, 2017 07:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:

I think we might have had a miscommunication. I got defensive because people very close to me that are also millenials are in the military. The millenial generation has been fairly peaceful compared to the past generations, so perhaps you are right. Ah yes, Pluto in Aquarius, erratic changes due soon haha

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posted January 31, 2017 08:01 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
There are different kinds of fights and wars, and the final victory is not in the guns, if you want to talk Aquarius. Other than that, I can assure you people of all ages and everywhere will stand up and fight for liberty, even with their blood, if necessary.

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posted January 31, 2017 09:48 PM              

The division and disagreements aren't just about Trump. It's been going on since around 2008, even a few years before. It's a division between political beliefs and things of the same ilk!

posted January 31, 2017 10:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
Don't forget, Trump might not be president in 2021.

The division and disagreements aren't just about Trump. It's been going on since around 2008, even a few years before. It's a division between political beliefs and things of the same ilk!

I just see things getting more and more wild in America the next decade. Trump is just one symptom and side effect of the division.

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I would argue the division is also a symptom of the bigger problem. Eg. Yugoslavia.

posted January 31, 2017 10:52 PM            

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This to me looks like a bizarre way to ignore the reality that the whole world is against Trump at the moment and to not acknowledge the reasons behind this.

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Agree to disagree, I see a defeated Scorpio's hand all over the intense reaction he gets from people.

Who exactly is "the whole world"?

posted February 01, 2017 04:19 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
If this country has reached the point of stupidity that they think is actually appropriate to start a civil war over Trump been elected president I am not going to stick around here in the US and risk dying over stupid people. He will be out of office in 4 to 8 years and then you can put a liberal back running things and they can undo all the good work Trump will do and is already doing. Half of the country was upset when Obama won but they did not start a civil war over it. People need to start chilling out. Trump got elected for a reason instead of hating him, invest all that energy trying to truly understand why he got elected in the first place instead of simplifying it to 'he is racist and a fascist' bc he is not and I assure you that is not why he won and got elected.

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You're okay with everything he's doing?

posted February 01, 2017 06:11 AM              

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Originally posted by Nine:
Agree to disagree, I see a defeated Scorpio's hand all over the intense reaction he gets from people.

Who exactly is "the whole world"?

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No, the intense reaction he gets from millions of people around the world and in the US, heads of states, humanitarian organizations, UN, EU, Christians, personalities in all possible domains and from all over, leaders of opinion in all possible fields, heads of global corporations like Facebook, Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Nike, Coca Cola, Apple, Netflix, Goldman Sachs, Ford and other thousands business leaders and the Pope himself is to what he says with his mouth and does with his hands.

Do you need some Trump quotes that cause this global outrage so that you can tell everyone how cool they are?

All this criticism will turn into action now: street protests, lawsuits, boycott, political and economical sanctions against the US, etc.
Yes, of course he has a base, I was just pointing out that ignoring the global criticism against him and the reason for it is like deciding to walk around with a bucket on your head, which will only hurt you in the end. You are mimicking a dysfunctional reaction. Such a widespread and strong reaction needs to be faced with realism and the criticism acknowledged and analyzed intelligently.

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posted February 01, 2017 08:49 AM              

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Originally posted by bananaz:
*Unless* something extreme happened

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Already happening.

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posted February 01, 2017 09:09 AM            

The chaos is needed to birth a new better way. In the midst of the chaos, a new beginning will arise.

This is what I think.

posted February 01, 2017 09:43 AM            

Wishing everyone well....

I've been listening to certain 'lightwalker' audio/vids....

We who HAVE Compassionate and passionate concerns, each have our set of tools we use to sense and look at possible indicators. It's all in the spirit (and Consciousness) of the person's interpretation.

I use certain asteroids in my own tool kit.

Like this one said, we are in a RE-Evolution. There was an 'Awakening' and HAVE been a series of Awakenings on earth, in Consciousness.

We are provided 'contrasts' by the Universe... like having an eye-lens exam for glasses or contact fittings. Do you prefer #1, or #2? ..The doctor shifts back and forth... 1, or 2?

Right now with this election in detail, we are being asked, as a human Awakening society... Do you want egoic-selfishness leading to death and separations, or, Sharing Compassion and Inclusion, 'inter'-dependence?

The USA Chart looks fascinating for around March 2025.

We may have had (Neptune Pisces in 24+(25)) an environment accident? or natural event, for which consequences had NOT been considered. Lack of planning. ... However, there are also indicators that we may have Lucky Escape from the consequences, or be able to implement New Science and Technology to spring back from it.

At 29.53'56" Pisces (h(3)) USA has 207547 Charitas. .... Charity, at the FULLEST degree of Spiritual Pisces.

We, have a Spiritual Chart (Sag-Rising)....
We are being given re-options right now... with heavy LT planet transits.... Selfishness-- I win/lose? I get mine, you get yours or die. Or Sharing and Compassion, ALL Human Lives Matter, and share a Quality Human Experience.

It's not a 'solo' act.... We ALL build on the shoulders of the other generations. We do 'the best' we know, in ignorance (lack of knowledge).

It takes DARING to break the cycle of selfishness and greed. I SEE this happening now, in greater numbers.

It's all about Choice....

We SHARE the info, and all GAIN through what EACH contributes.... The Key Answer, to open the Door of Possibility WILL be in the mash.

HISTORY... we LEARN from it. We are not DOOMED. (We don't HAVE to be.)

WE, as a SPECIES, over THOUSANDS of years have Evolved.... The young, downloaded with ALL that LONG-TERM Progress of Humankind, are Maturing.

Yes, things in the mundane world look 'perfectly' awful?

We are Beautifully being offered 'Choice' right now....

Selfish Greedy all-for-me and MY-own...

or LOVE each other.

Be Interested in Others.
Solve the problem of Love, Pain, and Hunger...

IN-clue'd.... We ALL are in this 'fish'-bowl (pisces) Together.

Division is a synthetic Illusion. Nuclears, wars, natural-disasters PROVE that 'in a NewYork 9-11 Minute'.

We CAN Survive... BY Making smart and Compassionate Choices... as INSURANCE for our Future.

I SEE the Options... by the charts.
WE can Choose Wisely.

The Words of Prophets... are meant to WARN, so as to PASS us by... There ARE things we can DO to Prevent....

Keep each other Surrounded and Cared For.
A life you save now, might save all.

(music) In The Year 2525 (Zager and Evans, lyrics) [3:20] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yesyhQkYrQM

posted February 01, 2017 10:04 AM            

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Already happening.

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posted February 01, 2017 08:37 PM            

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All this criticism will turn into action now: street protests, lawsuits, boycott, political and economical sanctions against the US, etc.
Yes, of course he has a base, I was just pointing out that ignoring the global criticism against him and the reason for it is like deciding to walk around with a bucket on your head, which will only hurt you in the end. You are mimicking a dysfunctional reaction. Such a widespread and strong reaction needs to be faced with realism and the criticism acknowledged and analyzed intelligently.

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posted February 01, 2017 09:11 PM              

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Originally posted by bananaz:
I mean like 911, or an event where thousands of people die.

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Weird response.

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posted February 01, 2017 09:17 PM              

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Originally posted by Nine:
LOL! Good one.

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What do you prefer, a bet or that I just bump this when the time comes?

I diplomatically omitted to describe how this will also be a lesson about the price of arrogance. I thought it was obvious already. But since you're flashing it...

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posted February 01, 2017 10:23 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Weird response.

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posted February 01, 2017 10:26 PM              

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Originally posted by bananaz:
Just a president keeping his campaign promises

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posted February 02, 2017 12:06 AM              

I would enjoy 2017 because 2018 and after, we are headed for wild times here in America!

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Trump Insists That Now, More Than Ever, Americans Must Stand Strong In Face Of Empathy

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posted February 02, 2017 07:04 AM              

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How so? It took 911 to push us into war last time. That's what I consider extreme anyway. Whats going on now is radical. Just a president keeping his campaign promises and people are upset, but there hasn't been devastation or something to trigger a much larger response. Pluto in Aquarius might do that as Uranus is known for shocking, rebellious events though. The jupiter opposite uranus transit going on later this year is what I'm worried about. I think a big financial crisis may be headed our way.

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Because it sounds weird to me you think you need thousands of dead people to realize something is wrong and to act.
Because there are already victims and people whose life was destroyed by American interference who are now left in regions of conflict to die. Christians in America must be ripped by pain they can't help the refugees their country created, and that someone interferes with their duty as Christians.

I have no idea what you mean by the lack of large response, you must have missed following the news and events since inauguration.

Sulky, sorry for trolling here without any astrological input so far, so I want to say I concur with your astrological ideas about the possible evolution and that I said after the inauguration that the administration will go for isolationism and various human rights violations which will create sanctions against the US, social unrest and economical recession. I have hopes it won't go all the way, but a form of it can't be avoided, I'm afraid, and the transits you describe support this idea.

A possible turning point for that would be November 2019, when Saturn ingress US 2nd house and goes to oppose chart ruler too: a reap what you saw (economical results) effect.

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posted February 02, 2017 08:32 AM              

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Because it sounds weird to me you think you need thousands of dead people to realize something is wrong and to act.
Because there are already victims and people whose life was destroyed by American interference who are now left in regions of conflict to die. Christians in America must be ripped by pain they can't help the refugees their country created, and that someone interferes with their duty as Christians.

I have no idea what you mean by the lack of large response, you must have missed following the news and events since inauguration.

Sulky, sorry for trolling here without any astrological input so far, so I want to say I concur with your astrological ideas about the possible evolution and that I said after the inauguration that the administration will go for isolationism and various human rights violations which will create sanctions against the US, social unrest and economical recession. I have hopes it won't go all the way, but a form of it can't be avoided, I'm afraid, and the transits you describe support this idea.

A possible turning point for that would be November 2019, when Saturn ingress US 2nd house and goes to oppose chart ruler too: a reap what you saw (economical results) effect.

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posted February 02, 2017 08:46 AM              

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
The US will also go into a Uranus return in the 2020's/2030's. Add to that, the Pluto Return. We are headed for changing times, no doubt!

I would enjoy 2017 because 2018 and after, we are headed for wild times here in America!

Even as early as late 2017, I wouldn't be surprised if the stock market crashed, because late Saturn in Sagittarius degrees is infamous for stock market crashes!

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