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bananaz
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posted February 02, 2017 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
The US will also go into a Uranus return in the 2020's/2030's. Add to that, the Pluto Return. We are headed for changing times, no doubt!

I would enjoy 2017 because 2018 and after, we are headed for wild times here in America!

Even as early as late 2017, I wouldn't be surprised if the stock market crashed, because late Saturn in Sagittarius degrees is infamous for stock market crashes!


This is crazy. Exactly what I've been suspecting too. I hope that this time it will lead to something good like the end of the fed reserve since its an old system and pluto is in capricorn...but yeah crazy times.

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posted February 02, 2017 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What do you prefer, a bet or that I just bump this when the time comes?

I diplomatically omitted to describe how this will also be a lesson about the price of arrogance. I thought it was obvious already. But since you're flashing it...


What do you think the Iraq invasion was about? I'll tell you, it was about a government cutting off the American access to credit. Same for Libya. The American reaction was a warning.

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posted February 02, 2017 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Because it sounds weird to me you think you need thousands of dead people to realize something is wrong and to act.
Because there are already victims and people whose life was destroyed by American interference who are now left in regions of conflict to die. Christians in America must be ripped by pain they can't help the refugees their country created, and that someone interferes with their duty as Christians.


I am just considering past trends. There needs to be something big to invoke that kind of passion within a nation. Can you name a time where there hasnt been some form of devastation and we went to war? I cant think of one.

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posted February 02, 2017 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Because it sounds weird to me you think you need thousands of dead people to realize something is wrong and to act.
Because there are already victims and people whose life was destroyed by American interference who are now left in regions of conflict to die. Christians in America must be ripped by pain they can't help the refugees their country created, and that someone interferes with their duty as Christians.

I have no idea what you mean by the lack of large response, you must have missed following the news and events since inauguration.


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posted February 02, 2017 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just checking-in here today.
(What I posted were bullet points/notes to myself. Have to work on it later.)

LEELOO... Awesome! ...{{*hug*}}

.. PixieJane!! omg
That's ~goooood!, AND, unfortunately incredibly sad at the same time.
Suggests a new poster slogan for Uncle Sam, doesn't it?

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posted February 02, 2017 01:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bananaz:
This is crazy. Exactly what I've been suspecting too. I hope that this time it will lead to something good like the end of the fed reserve since its an old system and pluto is in capricorn...but yeah crazy times.

If America (where I live) is lucky, then we have until 2019/2020 at the latest, and the more crazy things will be delayed until then.

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posted February 03, 2017 06:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, my lovelies

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

LeeLoo's Esotericorner

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Randall
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posted February 03, 2017 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's no civil war. Once the Dems accept the election results and stop rioting, things will calm down.

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posted February 03, 2017 04:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or, it could be the total OPPOSITE, and the economy goes up, up, up, and America will become MORE powerful in the 2020's, 2030's, and 2040's!

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posted February 03, 2017 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
Or, it could be the total OPPOSITE, and the economy goes up, up, up, and America will become MORE powerful in the 2020's, 2030's, and 2040's!
I like what you said here. It's too early to say for sure, but hopefully, you'll be right. Have you found anything astrologically that might suggest America becoming more powerful in the 2020's, 2030's, and 2040's?

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posted February 03, 2017 08:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lerena:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
[b]Or, it could be the total OPPOSITE, and the economy goes up, up, up, and America will become MORE powerful in the 2020's, 2030's, and 2040's!

I like what you said here. It's too early to say for sure, but hopefully, you'll be right. Have you found anything astrologically that might suggest America becoming more powerful in the 2020's, 2030's, and 2040's?[/B][/QUOTE]

America's Pluto Return! Pluto rules power!

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posted February 05, 2017 02:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus in Gemini might bring a big war involving America.

America has natal Uranus in Gemini, and Mars in Gemini.

Transiting Uranus in Gemini will hit America's natal Mars in Gemini, marking a big war, like the America Revolution, the Civil War, or WWII.

Get ready!

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posted February 05, 2017 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Southern Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why is everyone convinced that civil war will happen?

Why are people associating it with Pluto, when it was mostly Uranus--the planet of abrupt change--activity that sparked all the civil wars that occured in the late 1700s to late 1800s?

If anything, I have always understood that current Pluto trends indicate exposing the secrets and weaknesses of the powers that be.

- Snowden exposing NSA records of spying on allies
- The refugee migrant crisis exposing the weakness of European security
- Wikileaks ripping into politicians left and right
- Russia gaining power once more

Change is coming, but I do not believe it will be drastic. We still have an alarming amount of young people who are completely apathetic to world events, as well as total and complete sheeple who dont pay attention to the world beyond their borders.

We also still have global interests that would crumble should the US collapse into ruin. China cannot afford to see us fall, and they will take measures to alleviate this tenuous position.

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posted February 05, 2017 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only thing I feel good about with all of this, is that people are fighting back (and for the most part, not with violence). Although someone from the GOP, was calling for "another Kent State" stating that one bullet would shut the rest of us up. Disgraceful.

Homeland Security stood up to Bannon. The courts are standing up to Trump and Bannon, re: the Muslim ban (the ban that isn't a ban, except for when trump states that it IS a ban).

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posted February 05, 2017 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://twitter.com/ezlusztig/status/827823197391306754

The tweet that was deleted. It also looks like he deleted his account, or deactivated it for a while.

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posted February 05, 2017 11:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Southern Sun:
Why is everyone convinced that civil war will happen?

Why are people associating it with Pluto, when it was mostly Uranus--the planet of abrupt change--activity that sparked all the civil wars that occured in the late 1700s to late 1800s?

If anything, I have always understood that current Pluto trends indicate exposing the secrets and weaknesses of the powers that be.

- Snowden exposing NSA records of spying on allies
- The refugee migrant crisis exposing the weakness of European security
- Wikileaks ripping into politicians left and right
- Russia gaining power once more

Change is coming, but I do not believe it will be drastic. We still have an alarming amount of young people who are completely apathetic to world events, as well as total and complete sheeple who dont pay attention to the world beyond their borders.

We also still have global interests that would crumble should the US collapse into ruin. China cannot afford to see us fall, and they will take measures to alleviate this tenuous position.


The problem is America has never had a Pluto return before, this is its first one ever.

So we have nothing to compare this Pluto Return to.

So it's possible, like you said, it won't be drastic. It could even be America starts growing its economy back to pre-2000 rates again!

But it's Uranus in Gemini I'm worried about, because we DO have a history of Uranus in Gemini. The last three times Uranus went into Gemini in America, there was the American Revolution, the Civil War, and WWII.

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posted February 05, 2017 12:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So the US's Pluto return (the point at which Pluto exactly conjunct's US's natal Pluto at 27°34" Capricorn) will last from 21st February 2022 to 29th December 2022. Though Pluto return already pretty much started the moment Pluto entered Capricorn. It'll just be more acute during this period. Interesting times ahead. Even though the US has never had a Pluto return, you can get a bit of an idea as to what to possibly expect by looking at older countries who have been through it not just once, but a few times.

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posted February 05, 2017 12:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
The problem is America has never had a Pluto return before, this is its first one ever.

So we have nothing to compare this Pluto Return to.

So it's possible, like you said, it won't be drastic. It could even be America starts growing its economy back to pre-2000 rates again!

But it's Uranus in Gemini I'm worried about, because we DO have a history of Uranus in Gemini. The last three times Uranus went into Gemini in America, there was the American Revolution, the Civil War, and WWII.


Really? I didn't know that was Uranus in Gemini.. Maybe that was because of tUranus hitting America's Mars & Uranus?

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Elysia
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posted February 05, 2017 01:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bonsai:
So the US's Pluto return (the point at which Pluto exactly conjunct's US's natal Pluto at 27°34" Capricorn) will last from 21st February 2022 to 29th December 2022. Though Pluto return already pretty much started the moment Pluto entered Capricorn. It'll just be more acute during this period. Interesting times ahead. Even though the US has never had a Pluto return, you can get a bit of an idea as to what to possibly expect by looking at older countries who have been through it not just once, but a few times.

Well, we're the lucky ones who get to live through the USA's first ever Pluto return.

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Originally posted by Elysia:
Well, we're the lucky ones who get to live through the USA's first ever Pluto return.

Lol.. the Pluto return squares my moon. On Feb 21 2022, the NN is also conjunct Algol. Haha

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Lol.. the Pluto return squares my moon. On Feb 21 2022, the NN is also conjunct Algol. Haha

Squares my Sun..
*high-five* for squared luminaries, huh.

Hold on tight, gonna be a rough ride.

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posted February 25, 2022 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for viviette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bonsai:
So the US's Pluto return (the point at which Pluto exactly conjunct's US's natal Pluto at 27°34" Capricorn) will last from 21st February 2022 to 29th December 2022. Though Pluto return already pretty much started the moment Pluto entered Capricorn. It'll just be more acute during this period. Interesting times ahead. Even though the US has never had a Pluto return, you can get a bit of an idea as to what to possibly expect by looking at older countries who have been through it not just once, but a few times.

BUMP

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posted February 25, 2022 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
There's no civil war. Once the Dems accept the election results and stop rioting, things will calm down.

Oh, really? Care to tell that to my trumper neighbours, who still talk about the most bloody civil war, coming our way? At their instigation, because of lies being pushed.

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posted February 26, 2022 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I doubt you have any neighbors like that.

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posted February 26, 2022 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I doubt you have any neighbors like that.

Of course you do, but they exist. I had a screenshot and shared it once, I thought, when it sounded like one was threatening me. November 2020.

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