posted February 06, 2017 05:54 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
look at what targeting people does to them. faith was targeted by ami; faith non stop fights and combats. i was targeted; i defend my place. VIC was targeted by many; he defended himself. but he let the hatred out power his being.

and i'm not talking about how the targeting was done or how it looks like. we all live in expressions of the heart and each targeting was as hurtful as any other; no matter how it 'looked' like

whether you make it look "nice" and "appropriate" does not take away that it is targeting. we all live from the heart, not "logic"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqju2mB_0GE&t=00m08s&t=00m04s

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Exactly, Faith targets people. When they go crazy and insane and say things, SHE cries victimhood.

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posted February 06, 2017 05:55 PM            

I was counting myself.

The thread was dying, Ami, right? What a choking feeling for you.

Second-rate well-poisoner.

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posted February 06, 2017 05:59 PM            

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posted February 06, 2017 06:13 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
The thread was dying, Ami, right? What a choking feeling for you.

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Yeah, poor Ami.

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Just wanted to sneak in a hug and a thank you, Lee.

Honestly, you are amazing.

posted February 06, 2017 06:14 PM            

At least the misandry op reflected and showed some concern about her feelings.

posted February 06, 2017 06:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Yeah, poor Ami.

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Just wanted to sneak in a hug and a thank you, Lee.

Honestly, you are amazing.

Thanks so much.

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YOU are (thank you ) I am so distressed you have become a target for so long, some are trying to prey on decency, true sensitivity and involvement, together we will find a way to change this here. There is so much light in LL and you are how this light looks like.

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posted February 06, 2017 06:26 PM            

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posted February 06, 2017 06:33 PM            

What's the girl version of Bromance?

So much I wish we could talk about but I don't want soren's commentary.

And some of this, I'm just beyond words, and exhausted, and want to just flop down next to you on a sofa and sigh and laugh about all this in person...and nothing else in lieu of that will suffice.

Cheers to astrology and cheers to all the well-adjusted astrologers here, I really appreciate everyone.

Bye again for now

posted February 06, 2017 06:33 PM            

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posted February 07, 2017 05:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Faith,

"With sun square Jupiter, which I have, the pattern does not seem to be that these people are malicious and dark, as alleged here."

The reason for this is that it is not within its astrological symbolism. Neither Sun nor Jupiter are dark energies at all, so you can boost them as much as you want, they won´t turn dark, as an isolated aspect.

the square is pumping up their volume but it can only pump up what is within the symbolic range.

The risk or danger with Sun-Jupiter in challenging aspect is not darkness or malice at all, but too much expansive energy. It can expand to a degree that it gets too much.

Of course some people with Sun-Jupiter-square could exhibit dark traits (though we still have to define those), but this not the result of the Sun-Jupiter-square, but of a combination of another aspect, which may be prone to darker manifestations, and then the presence of Sun-Jupiter could magnify what is there. As Jupiter expands what it touches anyway, in squares it really lifts up, and Sun energizes what it touches, so with Sun-Jupiter-squares we have a LOT of energy to deal with.

But like you said in most cases this usually gives an extra dose of optimism, an ebullient sense of humour and the need to expand and have a lot of space to express themselves.

Sometimes it might be a bit overly enthusiastic though, and even overly confident (but other aspects have to confirm that too).

I don´t even think that Juptier on its own deals with religion or philosophy so much as the need to find a meaning in things and a way of expansion of the mental sphere (which of course could be found on these areas, but does not have to).

usually if it means religion or philosophy, we would find a strong link to the 9th house (rulership or tenancy).

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jupiter is knowledge, when in challenging aspects to the sun or the AC/MC specifically, the person can turn self-righteous, thinking that all they believe and do is okay.

true that other aspects in the chart can intrigue this aspect as well, but aspects to the sun are one of the biggest part of a person's character.

the jupiter square definitely gives the person a lot of energy, but it's the person who chooses how to use it. the easiest way most choose to deal with this aspect of course is a malicious sense of knowing it all, and shrugging off other people's feelings for their own laughter/fun, and pursuing their own often wrong/selfish ideals at the expense of a whole community's cause.

I dislike to add to the already negative atmosphere of this thread, but I'd like to share these information for the sake of astrological education:

some of the most evil human beings who have ever lived, and true malignant narcissists at that:

Benjamin Netanyahu
sun square jupiter

Dick Cheney
sun square jupiter

David Rockefeller (born 1915)
sun square jupiter

George W. Bush
sun square jupiter

other aspects:

Henry Kissinger
jupiter square the MC

Adolt Hitler and Donald Trump
sun trine jupiter

Marquis de Sade
sun conjunct jupiter

George H. W. Bush
sun opposite jupiter

Hillary Clinton
jupiter square the MC
- but personally I believe she's a virgo AC so it might be jupiter square the AC

some useful links http://www.unsilentmajoritynews.com/david-rockefeller-an-illuminated- life-of-immorality-evil-and-treason/

https://soapboxie.com/social-issues/David-Rockefeller

in case you research about them and still doubt they're evil, just look at their pictures, a person's soul WILL be seen in their face

posted February 07, 2017 06:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Anyway, I am sick of the 3 of them going around and BULLYING/TARGETING people and then crying that the person "exploded"

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Bullsh*t.

posted February 07, 2017 07:29 AM            

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some of the most evil human beings who have ever lived, and true malignant narcissists at that:

Benjamin Netanyahu
sun square jupiter

Dick Cheney
sun square jupiter

David Rockefeller (born 1915)
sun square jupiter

George W. Bush
sun square jupiter

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Four bad guys?

I can find that many for any placement or aspect whatsoever.

Thanks for helping Ami frame me as a Mal Narc.

posted February 07, 2017 07:52 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Unfortunately, some recent examples were here:

1. This person has no empathy.

2. This person enjoys hurting others. Normal people may like getting power over others but EMPATHY stops them from brutality, usually. In the case of the person with no empathy, there is nothing stopping them.

3. They have boatloads of empathy for themselves. Hence, they will cry and wail when someone hurts them, but they will have no compunction hurting someone else in the very same manner.

4, This person has NO self reflection i.e insight into themselves. They may appear to have insight into themselves, but it is a shallow show. In reality, they don’t

5. They blame others for what THEY do. This is a psychological defense mechanism. It is the “food choice” of the Malignant Narcissist.

etc.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Venusincap89:
I DON'T GIVE A FUCM IF MY HATRED AGAINST LEELOO AND FAITH CREATES SOME KIND OF KARMA. I WILL ******* CHASE THEM INTO HELL IF I HAVE TO. MARK MY WORDS LEELOO AND FAITH, I DON'T FORGIVE, I DON'T FORGET. I WILL BATTLE YOU GUYS UNTIL MY LAST ******* BREATH. IF YOU OR FAITH WANT A PIECE OF ME I AM IN TORONTO.

Answer: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
@Venus

I am not bragging but I have leadership roles in which I have to deal with these kinds of people and do it well. I learned these lessons from EXACTLY what YOU are going through. I could never be doing half the things I am without having to go through what you are going through

PS Also, the people who treat others horribly always get karma! ALWAYS

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Venusincap89:
The only thing that can make me feel better right now is some sort of disaster in your house. Or news of you and leeloo getting hit by a car.

Answer: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have to tell you something, Venus. Someone treated me like this and something really bad happened to her. Now, when I am treated like this, I pity the person!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Venusincap89:
I don't wish to just harm your body. I wish to harm your soul. I wish to harm everything you have and everything you will have or had. As well as Leeloo's.

Answer: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
People like this will reap what they sow, Venus. Don't let them make YOU do anything or say anything bad.

I understand this might be some kind of cry for help, but I don't think an astrology forum has the ability to deal with this level of need for psychiatric counselling.

I can't stress enough the danger and consequences of condoning internet violence.

This forum is trying to heal after a difficult moment and can't be dragged down into a personal mental health matter.

Of course, this is an important matter we need to discuss: the consequences of condoning, encouraging and cheering for internet violence that includes death threats, threats to bodily harm, hitlists, threats to track down and strike, etc. It would be unwise to assume all people would take this lightly.

But I don't see how this would be the proper forum for that, since there is no astrological marker for psychiatric conditions, and any other suggestion has the potential to create a precedent for false and prejudiced astrology.

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posted February 07, 2017 07:53 AM            

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posted February 07, 2017 07:54 AM            

There is no single aspect that does.

It is a COMPLEX!!!

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posted February 07, 2017 07:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
A Jupiter Sun /square has NO relevance to a Mal Narc lol

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No?

Page one:

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6. In my study of charts of actual sociopaths, of which I knew three, they ALL had a very afflicted Jupiter.

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posted February 07, 2017 07:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Kanye West _ another famous Sun - Jupiter, I think a square.

He doesn't feel like a bad person at all, no. ...but that super inflated ego and god complex..
Tz tz

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I don't know that much about this aspect, Orange, but did you read "People of the Lie"? It is so classic that everyone should read it cuz everyone will have to deal with a few Mal Narcs and they destroy your soul like an actual vampire!

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posted February 07, 2017 08:00 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
look at what targeting people does to them. faith was targeted by ami; faith non stop fights and combats. i was targeted; i defend my place. VIC was targeted by many; he defended himself. but he let the hatred out power his being.

and i'm not talking about how the targeting was done or how it looks like. we all live in expressions of the heart and each targeting was as hurtful as any other; no matter how it 'looked' like

whether you make it look "nice" and "appropriate" does not take away that it is targeting. we all live from the heart, not "logic"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqju2mB_0GE&t=00m08s&t=00m04s

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THIS comment describes Faith and what goes on here under the surface UNTIL the "victim" explodes and says "threatening" things and then Faith et al go crazy!

posted February 07, 2017 08:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
THIS comment describes Faith

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If anyone actually studied what happened on these threads they would see you and soren bullying me.

Over and over, you get involved in my conversations and attack.

That's why, on this thread, people were defending me.

posted February 07, 2017 08:04 AM            

You created this whole thread to point to me as a Mal Narc.

While supporting someone who wished me dead.

Meanwhile, for the past several days, I don't recall criticizing you, except to say, you shouldn't be a mod.

posted February 07, 2017 08:05 AM            

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