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ChildofVenus
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posted February 15, 2017 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In a natal chart do either one of these aspects make a person intelligent? Or are these aspects said to show intelligence?

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posted February 15, 2017 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury conjunct Jupiter or Mercury trine Saturn.

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posted February 15, 2017 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mercury sextile Saturn and Mercury parallel to Jupiter.I am brilliant!

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posted February 15, 2017 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you being serious? Lol
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I have Mercury sextile Saturn and Mercury parallel to Jupiter.I am brilliant!

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posted February 15, 2017 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury trine Saturn here. I was told I am highly intelligent. I doubt that.

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posted February 15, 2017 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury sextile jupiter and Mercury sextile Saturn. Mercury in 3rd house.

Very grateful to have this aspect, having structure mind and at the same time optimistic. But I also have mercury square pluto wide orb, so I don't like revealing much my opinion about anything.

Due to having a highly boredom tendency, I have a problem with distraction and forgetful mind but I can recall back the memory exactly like it is (no neptune here, so expect me to have a very clear memory and no wishy-washy in talking).

I really have problem talking with people who have mercury/neptune aspect especially when you need the truth or when in an argument about past situation.

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posted February 15, 2017 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury in 3rd Aqua
Merc Dominant
Mercury square ASC (very difficult aspect)

Mercury conjunct Moon
Mercury Opposite MC
Mercury Sextile Jupiter
Mercury opposite mars

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posted February 15, 2017 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury/Uranus is more to do with intellegence. Mercury/Juputer is just having a bigger vocabulary lol.

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posted February 15, 2017 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mercury conjunct Jupiter, Mercury trine Saturn, Mercury trine Mars and Mercury square Neptune. I do have a problem with focusing at times and sometimes I forget but Mercury is in my eighth house. You think people with Mercury square Neptune are liars? Lol
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Mercury sextile jupiter and Mercury sextile Saturn. Mercury in 3rd house.

Very grateful to have this aspect, having structure mind and at the same time optimistic. But I also have mercury square pluto wide orb, so I don't like revealing much my opinion about anything.

Due to having a highly boredom tendency, I have a problem with distraction and forgetful mind but I can recall back the memory exactly like it is (no neptune here, so expect me to have a very clear memory and no wishy-washy in talking).

I really have problem talking with people who have mercury/neptune aspect especially when you need the truth or when in an argument about past situation.


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posted February 15, 2017 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish I had Uranus in aspect of my Mercury this is one aspect I wish I did have.
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Mercury/Uranus is more to do with intellegence. Mercury/Juputer is just having a bigger vocabulary lol.

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posted February 15, 2017 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I wish I had Uranus in aspect of my Mercury this is one aspect I wish I did have.

I wish I had Mercury/Uranus too. I was close as my mercury is in Gemini and Uranus in Sag but orb is too wide. All the people I know that have Mercury/Uranus, especially the conjunction are very intelligent.

Oh well, I at least have Uranus in the 3rd...should mean something haha.

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posted February 15, 2017 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are there any other intellectual aspects besides Mercury/Uranus? I would like to be intelligent but I guess it's just impossible lol. The only planet I have in my 3rd house is Pluto.
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I wish I had Mercury/Uranus too. I was close as my mercury is in Gemini and Uranus in Sag but orb is too wide. All the people I know that have Mercury/Uranus, especially the conjunction are very intelligent.

Oh well, I at least have Uranus in the 3rd...should mean something haha.


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I know someone with Mercury conjunct Saturn. She's smart in some things, but idiotic in others! So a mixed blessing?

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posted February 16, 2017 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I have Mercury conjunct Jupiter, Mercury trine Saturn, Mercury trine Mars and Mercury square Neptune. I do have a problem with focusing at times and sometimes I forget but Mercury is in my eighth house. You think people with Mercury square Neptune are liars? Lol

I wouldn't say mercury/neptune people are liars. Anybody can lie.

The problem is sometimes their memory is easily scattered, the memory is mixed with factual, feelings, and their own fog of illusion (which they can not help that their mind create itself). If some people say/do bad thing to them, they see/say it horribly twice than the actual fact. If some people say/do good thing to them, again, their mind double the dose. They need to train their mind by looking for another opinions/facts before believing what their mind says or someone they believe has no fault. Their mind easily get abuse with the wrong people.

Usually you need to see the environment where they grew up, they can be easily a pathology liars if they want to or they can have beautiful poetry words to write/seduce romantically.

Your eighth house mercury means which area you are interested in discussion or what cloud of thought you most likely have.

My mom and my sister have Mercury Square Neptune. everytime we're in argument and I have found their story is not factual, I will always the one who listing and gathering all the fact in front of the table. Both usually quick to realize they are in the wrong boat. Also both have Aries influence in their chart who love honesty. Both totally a sucker for romance movie though.

The one I have trouble trusting is the Mercury opposite Neptune. Ruled by the mercury, he gets used to scattered some truth even from the tiny smallest unimportant thing to the big one. Although you have all the fact, he will have another new illusion (can convince you it is true happening in real life) which means he doesn't like getting caught with lying. This aspect seems like back and forth coming out nowhere (so confusing), it's different with the square who seems constant inner struggle and they know it.

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posted February 16, 2017 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini30:
Mercury/Uranus is more to do with intellegence. Mercury/Juputer is just having a bigger vocabulary lol.

I have Mercury/Uranus wide orb, it is in sextile. I think this aspect makes your mind like a lighting bolt. It can be good or it can make you like a crazy person (burst all out like if the mind will explode if you hold it inside).

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posted February 16, 2017 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Are there any other intellectual aspects besides Mercury/Uranus? I would like to be intelligent but I guess it's just impossible lol. The only planet I have in my 3rd house is Pluto.

Merc/Jupiter as well. Increase in vocabulary can make someone sound very articulate, thus coming off as intelligent.

Mercury/Saturn can make one very good at one thing, but not much else. Saturn with it's laser like focus will make you keen in on a certain subject and keep you there.

With Mercury/Uranus, you tend to scatter all that energy. It's the opposite of Mercury/Saturn as you tend to be good at so many things but not great at anything. I'm not saying that people with this aspect will never be great at something, just saying that having this aspect can make it hard to focus on just one subject.

And as for you being intelligent, anyone can be intelligent! Just learn anything that interests you, have a passion for it, learn the heck out of it, and spread your knowledge! The word "genius" is overrated :P

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posted February 16, 2017 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 16, 2017 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've Mercury Uranus inconjunct and it's such a frustrated, nearly there, almost energy for me. But when I had a conjunction transit to natal it was amazing, I was thinking of inventions all the time and couldn't stop.

I think I've seen Uranus and Jupiter and Mercury come together in a lot of engineering minds,

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posted February 16, 2017 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to tests I am above average.

I have nothing between Jupiter/Mercury but I have Mercury 11H trine Uranus 3H. I wouldn't necessarily pin this aspect on "brilliance" but I do have really freakin odd "out of nowhere" thoughts that later, most of the time, has been proven correct. What makes me NOT so brilliant is the fact that I can't back my thoughts up with conventional means so in an academic-brilliance kinda way, no, I am not brilliant but in an esoteric/psychological/spiritual/odd ways, yes, I might be perceived as brilliant.

My husband is very similar with Mercury op Uranus.

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posted February 16, 2017 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mercury jupiter shows the capability to look at the large picture. natives with that aspect (unless other placement such as mercury in virgo, capricorn or saturn aspected) may be less interested in the details and micro management of things. mercury-jupiter allows to understand underlying princyples and get the essense of things.

mercury saturn provides structure and logical thinking. it is hard to find a scientific without such placement.

in addition to that, pluto add deepth, uranus-neptune creative and out of the box thinking but sometime chaotisch thinking if no other placeent compensate for that (for example an aspect from saturn, or mercury in cap-virgo)

mars-uranus also is important in giving speed to the thinking process. slow thinkers normally do not have mars aspecting mercury. even mercury in taurus can becomes fast with an aspect from mars.

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posted February 16, 2017 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does Mercury trine Mars do?
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mercury jupiter shows the capability to look at the large picture. natives with that aspect (unless other placement such as mercury in virgo, capricorn or saturn aspected) may be less interested in the details and micro management of things. mercury-jupiter allows to understand underlying princyples and get the essense of things.

mercury saturn provides structure and logical thinking. it is hard to find a scientific without such placement.

in addition to that, pluto add deepth, uranus-neptune creative and out of the box thinking but sometime chaotisch thinking if no other placeent compensate for that (for example an aspect from saturn, or mercury in cap-virgo)

mars-uranus also is important in giving speed to the thinking process. slow thinkers normally do not have mars aspecting mercury. even mercury in taurus can becomes fast with an aspect from mars.


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posted February 16, 2017 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What does Mercury trine Mars do?

the energies or mercury with mars in a trine give a speedy mind. people who get things fast. of course it can also add an argumentative nature, but your question was about intelligence, so I am not focusing on that aspect of mars...

it does not provide brilliance or creativity, just speed. but it is a nice to have if intelligence is the ability to solve problems, well, figuring things up faster is a component of intelligence.

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posted February 16, 2017 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read somewhere once that having a stellium in the 6th house makes a person intelligent? Not sure why, but I got a 6th house stellium, so maybe thats why I'm interested in that theory :P

I also got mercury square jupiter/neptune/saturn/uranus

People often say that I am intelligent, but I don't think I am myself, well not on a "daily basis"... I do tend to think a lot though, and regarding any "bigger" or "advanced" subject I tend to understand things Its funny cause I'm a virgo, so I would have thought I was more into smaller details, but I often find myself caring a lot more about bigger visions, philosophy and the big picture

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posted February 16, 2017 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess maybe I don't have any intellectual aspects in my chart then. Uranus trines my Sun and I have Sun in the 9th house. But I know it has more to do with Mercury.

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posted February 16, 2017 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I read somewhere once that having a stellium in the 6th house makes a person intelligent? Not sure why, but I got a 6th house stellium, so maybe thats why I'm interested in that theory :P

I also got mercury square jupiter/neptune/saturn/uranus

People often say that I am intelligent, but I don't think I am myself, well not on a "daily basis"... I do tend to think a lot though, and regarding any "bigger" or "advanced" subject I tend to understand things Its funny cause I'm a virgo, so I would have thought I was more into smaller details, but I often find myself caring a lot more about bigger visions, philosophy and the big picture


Well it makes sense since mercury aspects Jupiter and generational plants like Neptune and Uranus that you are into the philosophy and the bigger picture.

I could see how a stellium in the 6H can be a sign of intelligence since it would make someone detail oriented.

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