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hypatia238
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posted March 03, 2017 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unevolved manifestations or afflicted rising signs...

Aries= sore loser/too competitive
Taurus= greed
Gemini= shallow/too talkative
Cancer= too clingy, living in the past
Leo= drama queen/king
Virgo= excessively critical
Libra= vain
Scorpio= vindictive, paranoid
Sagittarius= religious fanatic
Capricorn= workaholic
Aquarius= rebel without a cause
Piscis= escapism, addiction


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posted March 03, 2017 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries Asc- I am very jealous of people that seem to succeed at something that I want.

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hypatia238
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posted March 03, 2017 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Aries Asc- I am very jealous of people that seem to succeed at something that I want.

Thanks, I having a hard time coming up with something for a few of them including Aries so glad to see it resonates . Feel free to make suggestions too for any sign.

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posted March 03, 2017 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio rising and yes you're right

We also find excited or extravagant people to be annoying

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posted March 03, 2017 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That makes me laugh.
I heard more than once that I talk too much,that I don't even breath

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Pisces rising here! Yes, addicted to food when I was younger! Also, escapism when I was a teenager through daydreams.

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posted March 03, 2017 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sagittarius= religious fanatic

Really? I've yet to meet a Sag ASC that is a religious fanatic. Honestly our shadow side is over-doing it, I think this translates to a very Bacchus/Falstaffian character.

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posted March 03, 2017 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UrsusBlack     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 03, 2017 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UrsusBlack     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 03, 2017 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vertiver:
Really? I've yet to meet a Sag ASC that is a religious fanatic. Honestly our shadow side is over-doing it, I think this translates to a very Bacchus/Falstaffian character.


I know one. 0 degrees sag rising with sun, Mercury first house. Fanatical devout catholic.

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posted March 03, 2017 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ha!!! i played pool with this guy who is Aries rising and he said the bad part about him was that he was a sore loser, that he hated losing. I am Virgo rising, I don't like losing but ahh, my feelings won't be hurt if I do. I just know I'll freshen my skills to win round 2. lol

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posted March 03, 2017 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alludeu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an aries asc and omg i cannot handle how competitive i get, i avoid competitive situations all together now :P

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posted March 03, 2017 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Piscean Tigress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess I'm evolved

Sag rising and not religion at all

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posted March 03, 2017 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio ASC and yes! paranoia is my second name, I was talking about that recently, I created this whole thing in my head thinking someone wanted to hurt me lol and then I thought I was being super dramatic about it and paranoid.

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posted March 03, 2017 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capricorn rising and I don't know whether I am a workaholic. I like enjoying myself, a lot. But work gives meaning to life, and without it enjoying oneself and spare time wouldn't have been so much fun. By the way, I know a sag rising who is far from being a religious fanatic. Could be only some of us express this shadow thing, so one cannot generalise. I know a scorpio moon who is paranoid.

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posted March 03, 2017 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Capricorn rising and I don't know whether I am a workaholic. I like enjoying myself, a lot. But work gives meaning to life, and without it enjoying oneself and spare time wouldn't have been so much fun. By the way, I know a sag rising who is far from being a religious fanatic. Could be only some of us express this shadow thing, so one cannot generalise. I know a scorpio moon who is paranoid.

Well one way sag can express its shadow is religious fanatism but it I was debating when I did the list whether to put that or a 'tendency towards excesses.' Tendency towards excesses is more general but since jupiter rules theology and the highermind I went for 'religious fanatism.'

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posted March 04, 2017 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Capricorn rising and I don't know whether I am a workaholic. I like enjoying myself, a lot. But work gives meaning to life, and without it enjoying oneself and spare time wouldn't have been so much fun. By the way, I know a sag rising who is far from being a religious fanatic. Could be only some of us express this shadow thing, so one cannot generalise. I know a scorpio moon who is paranoid.

One way Capricorn expresses its shadow is workaholism but there are other manifestations. In what way do you feel it manifests for you?

How do you feel sag risers manifest their shadow side?

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posted March 04, 2017 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Piscean Tigress:
I guess I'm evolved

Sag rising and not religion at all


Come to think of it sag also expresses its shadow side when its pessimistic and lacks faith/optimism. Religious fanatism is one extreme and lack of faith its another, sag loses its way if it stops believing and that is its shadow side.

What do you think?

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posted March 04, 2017 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Piscean Tigress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Come to think of it sag also expresses its shadow side when its pessimistic and lacks faith/optimism. Religious fanatism is one extreme and lack of faith its another, sag loses its way if it stops believing and that is its shadow side.

What do you think?


Dear Hypatia, I believe you are right about the pessimistic issue (at least in my case) Sometimes I fetl insecure about my capacities and I felt defeat no matter what I do.

I have natally Saturn opposite my Jupiter (I'm not clear if Jupiter is my chart Ruler, or Neptune, because I have Nep conj. Asc and I'm Pisces Sun), but meanwhile I don't have religeous issues, I have frecuent attacks of trust/untrust issues.

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posted March 04, 2017 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Piscean Tigress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Dear Hypatia, I believe you are right about the pessimistic issue (at least in my case) Sometimes I fetl insecure about my capacities and I felt defeat no matter what I do.

I have natally Saturn opposite my Jupiter (I'm not clear if Jupiter is my chart Ruler, or Neptune, because I have Nep conj. Asc and I'm Pisces Sun), but meanwhile I don't have religeous issues, I have frecuent attacks of trust/untrust issues.


BTW I respect all religions, in king of "open mind" in this aspect. I believe in universal principles of the divine energy, no matter how people named their Gods

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posted March 04, 2017 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Piscean Tigress:
BTW I respect all religions, in king of "open mind" in this aspect. I believe in universal principles of the divine energy, no matter how people named their Gods


I could see that with sun in pisces and neptune conjunct AC, pisces is more abstract and spiritual but jupiter is more into the letter of the law. Jupiter will learn about religion reading a book or in class but pisces through experience or instinct. Pisces is more interested in the spirit of the law but jupiter needs the 10 commandments, guidelines and order, instructions on how to get to heaven. Pisces feels heaven and hell are here right now... Both seek understanding in their own ways and want to find meaning or purpose to life.

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posted March 04, 2017 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elise3090     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sag asc
not religious
but fanatic

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posted March 04, 2017 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by UrsusBlack:
I am a religious Sagittarius riser. I suppose as per the title of the topic, that's a bad thing. I like zeal, as long as it doesn't keep you from hearing other people's points of view.


Well I said religious fanatism, so I am talking more about an extreme. Come to think of it tbe shadow of Sag could be excessive guilt! That hits the nail I think. Yes!

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posted March 04, 2017 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AutumnNight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
not clingy...a loner and distant type person.

But, I do live in the past...lol I am the type that can really remember stuff down to the detail and everything said....like a script of a past event. Makes it hard to forgive without a major talk being to have where confrontation happens.

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