posted March 11, 2017 12:53 AM            

officially what i consider my best piece to date, seriously, i think its amazing

posted March 11, 2017 10:38 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
i know it shifted because we never saw psychopathy like beheading isis members. we never saw 1/4 people have mental problems. we never saw so many people become so "fixed" (depressed, not wanting to do anything all day, even we had the same technology in 2008 and people were not depressed, so its not technology doing it)

in 2008 they did not have so much worldwide awareness on deforestation. everyone was moving at the same fast pace like nothing was wrong.

then all of a sudden, we decided the earth was being destroyed and it was so terrible. even though 5 years prior, we were moving along like it was fine. then all of a sudden we couldnt help but focus on it. like it was the end of this planet.

i know its not technology because we all used the comp just as much even in 2005.

i know it shifted because in the time of great chaos (2012-2015) i felt soooooo terrible and every day was a struggle. in this time, cops were killing people for little cause aside from they were too high strung. now barely anyone is dying unnecessarily. the time of great chaos is over. i've been watching my cells. so i know.

never before have people said they felt a great nerve of anxiety just by passing someone on the street. yet thousands report exactly that. growing up, this never happened. why thousands reporting this, no millions? even friends. even me.

i know because there are millions of animal die offs spiking in those years. look it up. whales washing up.

you want to be great, then acknowledge what's happening. this is a time only 0.05% of humans will ever go through.

only we can know what changed. only we know its possible.

in 100 years no one will ever know. cause the mainstream wont tell you what i know. if i get 1 million followers we can change that, please follow me.

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posted March 11, 2017 11:11 AM            

but feel free to try doing that if you want, start a thread like that

posted March 11, 2017 10:45 PM            

My relationship with the femininity side of me is pretty simple. Well there are complicated stories, but at the end of the day it's pretty simple. I think I have a healthy relationship with it.

I can be reserved at times, especially when I'm lost in my own head, but I'm definitely not shy or timid. I may come across that way to some people, but in those cases, they usually mistake being reserved to being shy.

The early teenage years were hard, mostly because I encountered people who projected their problems onto me (ex: creepy men who tried to assault me then blamed it on the size of my chest". Similar things like that, so after those experiences, for a while I "dressed down" as to not attract unwanted attention. Not because I was ashamed of my body, I was being conscious of the environment I lived in. Not that it worked lol. But anyway, as soon as I moved to a new and nicer place, I felt safe enough to wear whatever I wanted.

I grew up in a strict, dry and conservative environment where people are expected to follow gender roles. I have an issue with that. Until today I don't like when I'm expected to do certain things or behave in certain ways because of my gender. Or when some assume that I do certain things because of my gender - one time I was shopping for ingredients to make my s.o's favourite dish. Got into a friendly conversation with a woman. It remained friendly until I gushed about how my s.o loved this particular dish. And she was like "Ugh" and went on about how he should cook for himself and I was endorsing gender roles by cooking for him. Naturally I told her that she seemed to have a chip on her shoulder. She walked away grumbling about weak women.

Heh but then again, some get offended that I act "like a man" when I'm simply being out spoken and assertive. But I suppose I can see why it may take some by surprise, because I look feminine and dress feminine, they don't expect my responses when they try pushing me. Pff.

I used to think a lot about it, but eventually I'm like "meh". I feel quite blessed to have found my s.o. He's neutral lol

Heh, this topic reminds me of Brienne and Catelyn - my favourite interaction in Game of Thrones. I like the way both of them appreciate each other. Heh I can talk forever about this, but I probably should spare you lol. Saturn is "masculine", and capricorn is ""feminine", it reflects in the way I think and act.

posted March 11, 2017 11:17 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
nah it was a joke

but feel free to try doing that if you want, start a thread like that

maybe you can get your own followers, if that is what u want, then i advise you to go for it!

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hah I saw what u wrote before u edited it

posted March 13, 2017 07:15 AM            

Really proud of my feminity (Venus conjunct Saggy Sun).

posted March 13, 2017 10:30 AM            

What you will get with Venus-Saturn is a challenge/obstacle of Venusian traits depending on the area it rules in your chart. The square vs. opposition makes a difference in how you deal with it.

posted March 14, 2017 02:45 AM            

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Originally posted by bananaz:
This aspect plays out in the natal chart in different ways for different people. You're not necessarily going to get a restriction of femininity with Venus-Saturn. Because not every chart is the same. Just because it hinders your feminine side doesn't mean that's how that aspect affects others. The moon offers a lot of femininity as well for example.

What you will get with Venus-Saturn is a challenge/obstacle of Venusian traits depending on the area it rules in your chart. The square vs. opposition makes a difference in how you deal with it.

This could play out in so many different ways. Restriction of money. Beauty. Eating disorder...the list goes on and on.

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Well put Bananaz!

After all gender and femininity is a social construct - so not "being" feminine enough is just based on a standard set of norms that doesn't apply to everyone.

I think you can evoke the more masculine sides of your chart or signs and still come off feminine or even androgynous.

posted March 14, 2017 09:11 AM            

I generally don't feel like a proper woman, or at least not like a social construct of a typical woman we are bombarded by these days. I feel uncomfortable wearing skirts and dresses, I rarely wear make-up, and I hate shopping for clothes. I'm wider and larger than most people my age (Jupiter in 1st really lives up to its promise of expansion), so it makes it all the more difficult for me to find clothes which would make me look good and classy (especially if you have large breasts like I do, you look cheap in just about anything), which in turn makes me even more miserable and even less willing to put some effort into looking more feminine. Old jeans, comfortable shoes, practical clothes - that's me. I don't dye my hair, I don't take care of my nails and I don't like spending on new clothes because I've got a constant fear I'll run out of money (Saturn in 4th, 12th house in Taurus can do that to a person, so I've heard).

It's not only appearance, it's everything else. I'm neither caring nor nurturing. I'm not particularly fond of children (especially babies - hate them), I never watch romantic films or listen to romantic music. I don't smile, talk politely, wear my femininity like a crown like most of my female friends do. I have no idea how to flirt or act around men in a romantic situation (probably explains my non-existing love life). As a matter of fact, all the typical mating rituals seem ridiculous.

The things have become a bit better since I started dancing a couple of years ago, but I'm still quite puzzled about what I'm supposed to be like as a woman. For example, last year we were doing a choreography on Thinking Out Loud by Ed Sheeran. It's a very romantic and gentle song and our dance teacher wanted us to show our softer, romantic, gentle and feminine side, and it was a real struggle. I just couldn't get it, couldn't express it. I could do the steps alright, but to show the emotion, to act like a lady - impossible! I couldn't wait for us to do the recital and move on to something else.

When it comes to why I feel like that, I could probably trace it to my childhood, when I was constantly discouraged from feeling pretty or overly feminine. My mum was a stay at home mum, with a huge garden, animals, and three children to look after while my father was out working, so she just didn't have time to cater to her daughter's need to feel good about herself. She'd always cut my hair really short, so I'd look like a boy (actually, they keep telling me that - look how lovely your haircut is, you look just like a boy), despite my desire to have long hair. It was just more convenient for her, she didn't have to spend much time combing it in the morning. She'd also pick my clothes, and she has a terrible taste in them, so I used to hate all my clothes and I felt awful wearing them. I remember having a beautiful, colorful skirt my aunt had given me. I loved it so much, I used to wear it all the time. One day, the skirt disappeared. My mother gave it to some passing beggar or something. I was devastated because I had actually felt beautiful and like a real girl in it. It took me years to wear another skirt again.
I also got a lot of mixed messages growing up. I looked like a boy, but everybody told me I should act like a girl. When I did act more like a girl, I was told I should act more like my brother. So, I guess now I'm confused about what the hell I should be doing.

posted March 14, 2017 10:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Kibriana:
Taurus Venus in 12th square Saturn in 4th (Leo) here. Gosh, I've always had huge problems with my femininity, but I don't think it's only this combo, though it doesn't help much.

I generally don't feel like a proper woman, or at least not like a social construct of a typical woman we are bombarded by these days. I feel uncomfortable wearing skirts and dresses, I rarely wear make-up, and I hate shopping for clothes. I'm wider and larger than most people my age (Jupiter in 1st really lives up to its promise of expansion), so it makes it all the more difficult for me to find clothes which would make me look good and classy (especially if you have large breasts like I do, you look cheap in just about anything), which in turn makes me even more miserable and even less willing to put some effort into looking more feminine. Old jeans, comfortable shoes, practical clothes - that's me. I don't dye my hair, I don't take care of my nails and I don't like spending on new clothes because I've got a constant fear I'll run out of money (Saturn in 4th, 12th house in Taurus can do that to a person, so I've heard).

It's not only appearance, it's everything else. I'm neither caring nor nurturing. I'm not particularly fond of children (especially babies - hate them), I never watch romantic films or listen to romantic music. I don't smile, talk politely, wear my femininity like a crown like most of my female friends do. I have no idea how to flirt or act around men in a romantic situation (probably explains my non-existing love life). As a matter of fact, all the typical mating rituals seem ridiculous.

The things have become a bit better since I started dancing a couple of years ago, but I'm still quite puzzled about what I'm supposed to be like as a woman. For example, last year we were doing a choreography on Thinking Out Loud by Ed Sheeran. It's a very romantic and gentle song and our dance teacher wanted us to show our softer, romantic, gentle and feminine side, and it was a real struggle. I just couldn't get it, couldn't express it. I could do the steps alright, but to show the emotion, to act like a lady - impossible! I couldn't wait for us to do the recital and move on to something else.

When it comes to why I feel like that, I could probably trace it to my childhood, when I was constantly discouraged from feeling pretty or overly feminine. My mum was a stay at home mum, with a huge garden, animals, and three children to look after while my father was out working, so she just didn't have time to cater to her daughter's need to feel good about herself. She'd always cut my hair really short, so I'd look like a boy (actually, they keep telling me that - look how lovely your haircut is, you look just like a boy), despite my desire to have long hair. It was just more convenient for her, she didn't have to spend much time combing it in the morning. She'd also pick my clothes, and she has a terrible taste in them, so I used to hate all my clothes and I felt awful wearing them. I remember having a beautiful, colorful skirt my aunt had given me. I loved it so much, I used to wear it all the time. One day, the skirt disappeared. My mother gave it to some passing beggar or something. I was devastated because I had actually felt beautiful and like a real girl in it. It took me years to wear another skirt again.
I also got a lot of mixed messages growing up. I looked like a boy, but everybody told me I should act like a girl. When I did act more like a girl, I was told I should act more like my brother. So, I guess now I'm confused about what the hell I should be doing.

Anyway, is it only Venus square Saturn? Probably not, I've got other masculine placements and aspects (Aries Sun doesn't help either, I've always thought Aries females are extremely non-feminine), but it's certainly an important part.

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My mom always kept my hair in a boy haircut growing up. My sister always had longer hair.

posted March 14, 2017 06:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Koniucha:
My mom always kept my hair in a boy haircut growing up. My sister always had longer hair.

I have the conjunction and my sister has the trine.

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